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« on: July 06, 2012, 03:00:58 AM »
seriously, they were one of the greatest live bands. how is there no video of Blondie singing Sail on Sailor with the Beach Boys?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2012, 03:08:55 AM »
No released video, you mean.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2012, 06:23:21 AM »
Well, there is this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmYn0Ahgb8

There is video of them singing "Sail On Sailor" in the Endless Harmony doc, makes me wonder how much more footage exists from that gig.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2012, 08:47:57 AM »
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2012, 08:53:48 AM »
Wow, never seen the live of You Need A Mess! thanks!
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2012, 08:54:10 AM »
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on July 06, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related
WTF - how come I've never seen these?  Shocked Thanks!!
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2012, 09:14:39 AM »
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on July 06, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related

Great that they lugged their instruments up to that rooftop; been nice if they had plugged them in, tho.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM »
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM »
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2012, 09:34:40 AM »
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
Possibly, maybe someone can shed some light as to where they came from - it's certainly from the same source as the 2nd You Need A Mess Of Help... clip above, both having been filmed in Brighton (U.K.) on a very windy day, Mess... filmed on top of Brighton Pavilion, and Water... filmed on Brighton Pier.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2012, 09:48:59 AM »
Ahhhhh, my favorite era as a Beach Boys fan! 
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM »
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 AM »
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2012, 10:21:26 AM »
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.
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Thou Art In Hawthorne,
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Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2012, 01:34:06 PM »
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.

The BBs toured with Spring?  How did I miss that?
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 01:58:21 PM »
Quote from: bgas on July 06, 2012, 01:34:06 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 10:13:03 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on July 06, 2012, 10:06:38 AM
Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on July 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: D409 on July 06, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
This one too :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cTIYsvJOQk

That's the official video clip for the song right
If it is then it is about a year late. Bruce left the band after the Spring 1972 US tour, while Surf's Up was released the previous year. So Tough was released by the time this DGNTW video was made.

Huh i didn't know that, i was just assuming by watching the video, since it's obviously playback and that there's no audience around
Cool thing is, I got to see one of those Spring 72 shows, in Philadelphia. I saw a rare configuration of the band with 7 Beach Boys on stage.

The BBs toured with Spring?  How did I miss that?

He's talking about the season that runs from near the end of March to near the end of June.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 08:16:33 PM »
Slightly off-topic but also on-topic, I found this documentary about "Holland" from 2008, it is not in English (at least the narrated bits are not) but there is some nice interview footage with Blondie and Jack Rieley.  Definitely worth checking out.
http://www.geschiedenis24.nl/andere-tijden/afleveringen/2008-2009/Beach-Boys-in-de-polder.html
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 10:01:10 PM »
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on July 06, 2012, 08:47:57 AM
There is quite a bit. i guess it doesn't circulate much. For example, there was a TV commercial (shot by Ed Roach) for the '73 Concert album that ran in various markets around the U.S. That commercial is ALL Holland era footage, showing the group performing on stage. I remember seeing it on TV back in '73. There's also quite a bit of silent footage of the '72/'73 BB's. And then there's these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t8xU1_Hqhc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c94dsOzkWRU&feature=related

I love these videos and have had them on my harddrive for quite a while but I think things like them are the main reason people think Blondie played bass with the boys.  Outside of these clips he's almost always shown on guitar.  And while I suspect that Ed Carter plays guitar for some songs on In Concert (such as "Help Me Rhonda"), the Preiss book refers to the albums basslines as being played by "Ed Carter and Carl".  People take those videos as proof of Blondie's role in the band but does anyone think Bruce played bass (on any songs, in the studio or on stage) during the period he was shown doing so in the videos for "Kokomo", "Problem Child", etc?

To clarify, I'm not say that Blondie never played bass during his tenure with the group, just that he was no more "the bass player" for the band then Carl or Alan was at that time.
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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2012, 02:39:22 AM »
Mike definitely looks like he should be jigling a a paper cup at passersby and asking them for spare change.
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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2012, 07:43:00 AM »
Quote from: The Return of the Son of Mike's Beard on July 07, 2012, 02:39:22 AM
Mike definitely looks like he should be jigling a a paper cup at passersby and asking them for spare change.

Mike looks like that guy from the Spin Doctors.
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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2012, 09:40:54 AM »
Here are the three takes of "You need a mess of help" (which would make a great concert addition imo). From "The ol' grey whistle test".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2OXUnGTpzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvuKKocU1eY
and the one already posted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMmX30uyWX4


And although it's not with the Beach Boys, here's Blondie rocking SOS in June 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5WDhyPX9XI
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« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2012, 01:04:42 PM »
I haven't seen Endless Harmony in awhile so I don't remember the Sail on Sailor performance, but the rest of the videos posted in this thread are more Carl and the Passions era. Nothing that sounds like the '73 concert album. the audio in that  Help Me Rhonda video was offensive.
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