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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on July 05, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
"Daybreak Over The Ocean" is one of my favorite tracks on the album. It's a tad long, but I like Mike's vocal, the Kokomo-like production, and the excellent ending chorus/tag - one of the highlights of the album for me. Is that Adrian Baker on there? If "Daybreak" had a BW writing credit, the song would be viewed entirely different.
I'm a little confused. I thought I read somewhere that Capitol Records chose the tracks for the album. Of course, that was from an interview with somebody, so take that with a grain of salt.
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My thoughts exactly. A bit long, but beautiful nonetheless. Those harmonies are killer.
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Are Wirestone and I the only ones to be bothered by the sped-up "chipmunk" Mike in one of this song's last choruses? It's just a copy-paste of one of the previous choruses, but the pitch has been digitally altered. AWFUL. The worst part of the album as far as I'm concerned.
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I'm not a Mike lover, but I enjoyed his contributions to the other tracks on the album, even the cheesier ones. it just wouldn't be the BBs without it, to me. This track, though, I can't get behind. It does sound particularly bad (it sounds like it was recorded in a so-so way originally and then subjected to the same murky whammy that the rest of the album has detracting from it, so it's a double dose of audio suck) and the song just goes nowhere to me, even though it's not particularly objectionable on the merits, just dull. For those reasons, I just can't listen to it.
"Spring Vacation" and "Beaches In Mind" are just fun. Even the parts that sound totally inappropriate work for me for some reason. So I ain't hatin' on Mike. I just don't like this song very much.
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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on July 05, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
"Daybreak Over The Ocean" is one of my favorite tracks on the album. It's a tad long, but I like Mike's vocal, the Kokomo-like production, and the excellent ending chorus/tag - one of the highlights of the album for me. Is that Adrian Baker on there? If "Daybreak" had a BW writing credit, the song would be viewed entirely different.
I'm a little confused. I thought I read somewhere that Capitol Records chose the tracks for the album. Of course, that was from an interview with somebody, so take that with a grain of salt.
They recorded some 30 tracks (including stuff like Bruce's remake of SBiLA), and then Brian and Joe submitted around 17 tracks to Capitol. The company then made the final selection. I also think it's safe to say that if BW really wanted something on the album, it would have been included.
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I like the song. Every Beach Boys album has to have at least one Mike Love track. It sort of slithers at the start but finishes with nicely with sweet harmonies.
I don't have the vinyl version of this album (yet!) but I would assume it would open side 2? It sits right in the middle of the album and gives the listener a little break from Brian just as his musical journey draws closer to it's conclusion. It's a downer of a song and Beaches in Mind is its manic partner in crime. But what follows is just beautiful and well worth the winding musical road that lead you there.
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Quote from: startBBtoday on July 05, 2012, 12:37:36 PM
Kind of surprised Daybreak wasn't on Summer In Paradise, fits the theme he was going for on the album and it would have been one of the strongest cuts, especially with Carl on there.
I'm assuming it wasn't because Mike had it in his pocket for his "future solo release?"
Mike Love Not War is, for me, the SIP that never was. The writing is much stronger, the harmonies fuller, the production more listenable.
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Quote from: mrmoustachioto on July 05, 2012, 11:12:28 AM
I would have prefered Wrinkles...
Wrinkles was already re-done as "Still Surfin'," from SIP!
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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on July 05, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
"Daybreak Over The Ocean" is one of my favorite tracks on the album. It's a tad long, but I like Mike's vocal, the Kokomo-like production, and the excellent ending chorus/tag - one of the highlights of the album for me. Is that Adrian Baker on there? If "Daybreak" had a BW writing credit, the song would be viewed entirely different.
I'm a little confused. I thought I read somewhere that Capitol Records chose the tracks for the album. Of course, that was from an interview with somebody, so take that with a grain of salt.
'If Daybreak had a BW credit it'd be viewed differently'. Not true for me. Spring Vacation, ...Bill & Sue, Shelter and Beaches In Mind all have Brian credits and i don't remotely rate those either. (The rest of the album however is pretty great).
Sounds to me like maybe you just don't like the album in general.
Really? Because it sounds to me like I don't like those five songs but I think all the rest of the album is great. So that's more than half the album i think is great. Is that 'not liking something in general'?
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I think it's funny how many people haven't heard Mike's solo album. I listened to that all the time when it first "came out".
What's really annoying to me is that Mike's version ends with the accordion holding out for a little while longer and then it hits the last chord one more time... and I'll never get used to the TWGMTR version not ending that way.
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Re: Why Pick Daybreak?
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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on July 05, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
the excellent ending chorus/tag - one of the highlights of the album for me. Is that Adrian Baker on there?
I thought someone said it was Christian Love? dont care much for the song as a whole but the end tag is really beautiful.
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Quote from: Aegir on July 06, 2012, 02:48:46 AM
I think it's funny how many people haven't heard Mike's solo album. I listened to that all the time when it first "came out".
Some people aren't lucky as you to find and listen to Mike's mentioned solo album. Not mentioning all the time.
It's floating about the interwebs. Not hard at all to locate.
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The 2005 Too Cruel is great. Dave could have replaced Christian easy.
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I like "Daybreak" very much (would love to hear the 70s version !) and I'm happy it got on TWGMTR instead of a new "Brian's back" or something along those lines. But I'd be even happier if they would've recorded it from scratch. Al's new vocal is killer. It takes the song to a whole new level, fantastic.
Quote from: Mike Eder on July 06, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
The 2005 Too Cruel is great. Dave could have replaced Christian easy.
I agree. After having heard David singing "Getcha back" it's obvious that his and Christian's voices are very similar in style. And that's why I would've opted for a re-recording by the Beach Boys of "Daybreak" as mentioned above. It's nothing against Christian or the original recording (that was used) but I'd rather hear only the Beach Boys, plus Foskett.
The song shows Mike's strong side. I came to the conclusion that it's not Mike's lyrical abilities that made his contributions to the band so important. It's much more his hooks. And this song has a great one.
That said, I still don't know if David sings on the album at all.
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Quote from: Rocker on July 06, 2012, 02:16:00 PM
I like "Daybreak" very much (would love to hear the 70s version !) and I'm happy it got on TWGMTR instead of a new "Brian's back" or something along those lines. But I'd be even happier if they would've recorded it from scratch. Al's new vocal is killer. It takes the song to a whole new level, fantastic.
Quote from: Mike Eder on July 06, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
The 2005 Too Cruel is great. Dave could have replaced Christian easy.
I agree. After having heard David singing "Getcha back" it's obvious that his and Christian's voices are very similar in style. And that's why I would've opted for a re-recording by the Beach Boys of "Daybreak" as mentioned above. It's nothing against Christian or the original recording (that was used) but I'd rather hear only the Beach Boys, plus Foskett.
The song shows Mike's strong side. I came to the conclusion that it's not Mike's lyrical abilities that made his contributions to the band so important. It's much more his hooks. And this song has a great one.
That said, I still don't know if David sings on the album at all.
Yeah he should have had one lead at least.
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I like the song pretty well. It's got pretty much a whole harmony choir going on it, what with Mike and three other singers, plus the 3 other BBs and Foskett. The production does clash with the rest of the album, but overall it's pretty nice. Not one of the better songs on the album, but not one of the weakest ones, either.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on July 05, 2012, 11:02:11 AM
It was re-recorded during the sessions for the
Mike Love Not War
solo album of 2005-ish, not for the new album.
That i did not know. So actually Mike genuinely couldn't be bothered then...
It would have been less lazy to re-use a 70s recording than applying overdubs to a recording that dates back a few years? Weren't some parts of the rest of the album recorded in 1998, anyway?
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on July 07, 2012, 03:44:38 AM
Weren't some parts of the rest of the album recorded in 1998, anyway?
I don't think they were actually recorded but demoed in the late 90s
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on July 07, 2012, 03:44:38 AM
Weren't some parts of the rest of the album recorded in 1998, anyway?
I don't think they were actually recorded but demoed in the late 90s
Ah, I wasn't certain. I had thought some had been started in 1998 in terms of recordings.
Still, I don't see Mike bringing an older song/recording on board as lazy, especially if a lot of other songs date back to 1998, recorded or not. Same would've gone for Al's "Waves Of Love", etc.
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Quote from: Justin on July 05, 2012, 11:26:21 AM
Regardless how many may feel about it, Brian seemed to have been really impressed with the tune. The new "Old Friends together" video they put up last week, shows Brian really happy when he listened to "Daybreak" with Mike for the first time.
I think, again like always this is just my impression of it.... I think when they started talking about make an album, one of the things going on was none of them knew if they would get along, so they were looking for ways to make things easy for Brian. So Mike lets it be known that he's got all kinds of songs in the can, they could just overdub lyrics, etc....
Eventually Brian and co. wrote enough new stuff to make almost everything original, but for one reason or another Brian either liked "Daybreak" a lot, or liked the idea of releasing a song Mike had already pretty much finished, so Mike would have more stuff on the album.
i'm not an expert on unreleased Love songs, but I'm sure he would have wrote some more stuff if asked, and I'm sure he has better unreleased stuff. Maybe it was on the first draft of the album back when they only had three or four songs recorded, and for whatever reason just hung around because Brian likes the "Bring Back.... Bring Back, my BABBBYYYY" part which is very Brianlike even though he had nothing to do with it.
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