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mjforever
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Problem Child is criminally underrated
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June 24, 2012, 09:45:41 AM »
I know there are several BB fans that can't get past the Pet Sounds/Smile-era music and want nothing but this but let's face it ... the boys hit their prime artistically a long time ago. Now all that is left is the
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stuff (not counting the surprisingly great TWGMTR). Still, there is a lot of bad music out there made by these guys as a band and solo but I have to say Problem Child may easily be their best song released in 1990, ahead of Somewhere Near Japan.
It is a very, very catchy song with fun lyrics and a GREAT lead by the great Carl Wilson. It also had a fun, if not cheesy video. To me, it is way better than Kokomo and that song somehow made it to the top of the charts. I just want to know what the diehards think of the song ... good and bad.
For those who haven't seen the video ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EeSuuCwaQ4
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Re: Problem Child is criminally underrated
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June 24, 2012, 09:52:49 AM »
Quote from: mjforever on June 24, 2012, 09:45:41 AM
I know there are several BB fans that can't get past the Pet Sounds/Smile-era music and want nothing but this but let's face it ...
That's a pretty bad way to start the conversation.
But i have been listening to Problem Child recently and talked about it with -another BB fan- friend about how catchy it is!
well yeah it's the 90's and all, it's supposed to be a commercial hit and you definitely can hear that through the song, but still the melody is very good imo.
Obviously not a fan of the sax solo but overall i think it's a cool
guilty pleasure
, and Carl is great -as always- on that track.
It's definitely not Summer Of Love.
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No, it's just criminal.
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June 24, 2012, 09:58:31 AM »
Quote from: salman rushdie on June 24, 2012, 09:53:59 AM
No, it's just criminal.
You beat me to it!
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Listening to this again has brought too much crime to my neighborhood. Where is the dark knight when you need him?
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Quote from: Cabinessenceking on June 24, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
Listening to this again has brought too much crime to my neighborhood. Where is the dark knight when you need him?
I'm still busy kickin' Spring Vacation's ass.
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Problem Child is a great song. probably only because Carl is singing it, but it's still a great song.
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June 24, 2012, 12:04:22 PM »
The melody and lead vocal are strong. Too bad the about the lyrics and gated drums.
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I think Somewhere Near Japan is in class of its own compared to Problem Child lol.
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June 24, 2012, 12:48:44 PM »
It's not THAT bad. Still bad though. It's just because it's the Beach Boys. If this had been from a one hit wonder or something, it would be considered a guilty pleasure. (if sh*tty 80's music is your thing of course)
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June 24, 2012, 12:53:36 PM »
Quote from: LittleBird on June 24, 2012, 12:48:44 PM
It's not THAT bad. Still bad though. It's just because it's the Beach Boys. If this had been from a one hit wonder or something, it would be considered a guilty pleasure. (if sh*tty 80's music is your thing of course)
I hate the 80's and enjoy some quite Beach Boys albums, and when i hear this, i don't really care if it's from the same guys who sang God Only Knows or if it's from the
shitty 80's music
, i just enjoy the melody and the singer's voice, really.
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I really like the edited version without the children's laugh. Some live versions were great as well though Mike seemed really embarrassed doing the intro part which made me giggle. At one point I gave a friend of mine some Beach Boys files to rehearse, he was our drummer, and the only two songs that he liked were "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "Problem Child".
Didn't Bruce once said he regretted doing that song and "Make It Big"? Well, I'd take both over "Kokomo" any day.
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Quote from: Rolling in madness on June 24, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
I really like the edited version without the children's laugh. Some live versions were great as well though Mike seemed really embarrassed doing the intro part which made me giggle. At one point I gave a friend of mine some Beach Boys files to rehearse, he was our drummer, and the only two songs that he liked were "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "Problem Child".
Didn't Bruce once said he regretted doing that song and "Make It Big"? Well, I'd take both over "Kokomo" any day.
Is there any video of it? never seen or even heard that song played live.
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June 24, 2012, 02:39:49 PM »
I am currently downloading an MP3 of a live performance of it from 1990. I will upload it to YouTube when complete. I can't wait to hear it!
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June 24, 2012, 02:39:55 PM »
BTW, what do people think of their cover of Crocodile Rock?
The song, not video, which is horrid.
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Quote from: Ziggy Stardust on June 24, 2012, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: Rolling in madness on June 24, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
I really like the edited version without the children's laugh. Some live versions were great as well though Mike seemed really embarrassed doing the intro part which made me giggle. At one point I gave a friend of mine some Beach Boys files to rehearse, he was our drummer, and the only two songs that he liked were "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "Problem Child".
Didn't Bruce once said he regretted doing that song and "Make It Big"? Well, I'd take both over "Kokomo" any day.
Is there any video of it? never seen or even heard that song played live.
The Problem Child video is so staggeringly dreadful it's a real guilty pleasure. It's hard to say what's the worst/best moment - Al's hair perhaps, or Mike pulling a 'hilarious' surprised face as he blows bubbles out of his sax. I think Bruce getting electrocuted is probably the highlight - pity he was only acting...
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Quote from: Dr. Lenny on June 24, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
BTW, what do people think of their cover of Crocodile Rock?
The song, not video, which is horrid.
Never heard the original so it sounds great ... just not that memorable.
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It's Pretty disgusting. Clown music.
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Quote from: Rolling in madness on June 24, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
I really like the edited version without the children's laugh. Some live versions were great as well though Mike seemed really embarrassed doing the intro part which made me giggle. At one point I gave a friend of mine some Beach Boys files to rehearse, he was our drummer, and the only two songs that he liked were "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "Problem Child".
Didn't Bruce once said he regretted doing that song and "Make It Big"? Well, I'd take both over "Kokomo" any day.
Bruce has said that he thought Problem Child was the worst thing the band ever did. Note that Problem Child is a Johnston/Melcher composition.
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on June 24, 2012, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: Rolling in madness on June 24, 2012, 01:15:41 PM
I really like the edited version without the children's laugh. Some live versions were great as well though Mike seemed really embarrassed doing the intro part which made me giggle. At one point I gave a friend of mine some Beach Boys files to rehearse, he was our drummer, and the only two songs that he liked were "Fun, Fun, Fun" and "Problem Child".
Didn't Bruce once said he regretted doing that song and "Make It Big"? Well, I'd take both over "Kokomo" any day.
Bruce has said that he thought Problem Child was the worst thing the band ever did. Note that Problem Child is a Johnston/Melcher composition.
Bruce will downplay a lot of what he does. Including his Grammy-winning song.
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Bruce is a music performer. Excellent skills with piano and lovely voice in his heyday (and to some extent still)
Almost all the music he wrote however is pretty horrid. Going Pubic is attrocious with its neon 70's glitz, I Write the Songs is nothing really. Problem Child is no exception.
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Quote from: mjforever on June 24, 2012, 02:39:49 PM
I am currently downloading an MP3 of a live performance of it from 1990. I will upload it to YouTube when complete. I can't wait to hear it!
I didn't know they ever played it live, actually it might sound much better! hearing the melody with live sound, thanks for sharing it!
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No time for YouTube ... on way to hospital but had time to upload to Sendspace.
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I got a whole album of live 80's and early 90's performances. Cant wait to see what else is on it.
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Thanks a lot! hope everything is fine for you.
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Quote from: mjforever on June 24, 2012, 04:53:59 PM
No time for YouTube ... on way to hospital but had time to upload to Sendspace.
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I got a whole album of live 80's and early 90's performances. Cant wait to see what else is on it.
Thanks a lot! This made me realize:
1. Miss Carl
2. The neo-doo wop chorus with Al is not too shabby
3. The dimished chord in the second half of the verse is a nice unexpected touch that adds color to an otherwise typical doo-wop progression. Thanks Bruce, I guess.
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