The Genius of Mike Love

[Jason]

This board weathered the McCabes and the McShanes of the bluebored. It will weather the psuedo-revisionists on here now. Stay strong, Erik and Mike!

[MBE]

This board weathered the McCabes and the McShanes of the bluebored. It will weather the psuedo-revisionists on here now. Stay strong, Erik and Mike!

I'm back for good. Just needed a quick breather!

[Danimalist]

This board weathered the McCabes and the McShanes of the bluebored. It will weather the psuedo-revisionists on here now. Stay strong, Erik and Mike!

Ha! Who is doing the revising here? Somebody needs to revise the revisionists. I, for one, am an anti-revisionary!  Unfortunately, that requires engaging in revisionism.

[Danimalist]

More proof of Mike's genius for the non-believers:
"It was the best of times, the worst of times, an age of reason with a rage for rhymes"

Who else could have come up with such a brilliant intro? "It was the best of times, the worst of times" doesn't that sum up the 1960s in fewer words than any other lyricist could do?

What a brilliant line!

And it could be applied to so many other eras...World War II...the Victorian era, hell, even the French Revolution.

And the background vocals whispering: "It was the spring of hope, winter of despair"

The man is a genius. Just admit it and then you can go back to hearing about crows repeatedly circling crops.

[Nicko1234]

More proof of Mike's genius for the non-believers:
"It was the best of times, the worst of times, an age of reason with a rage for rhymes"

Mike didn`t write that song though...

[Amy B.]

More proof of Mike's genius for the non-believers:
"It was the best of times, the worst of times, an age of reason with a rage for rhymes"

Mike didn`t write that song though...

I just looked up that album. How come Mike didn't write any of the lyrics (except on one song)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Back_with_Love

[Wah Wah Wah Ooooo]

More proof of Mike's genius for the non-believers:
"It was the best of times, the worst of times, an age of reason with a rage for rhymes"

Mike didn`t write that song though...

I just looked up that album. How come Mike didn't write any of the lyrics (except on one song)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Back_with_Love

He was too focused on the brilliant music....

[Danimalist]

More proof of Mike's genius for the non-believers:
"It was the best of times, the worst of times, an age of reason with a rage for rhymes"

Mike didn`t write that song though...

Crap! You mean to tell me that he's not a genius? Well, OK, so he did cowrite one song on his only released solo album; that clearly displays his confidence in his own songwriting abilities (or perhaps overconfidence in his singing abilities). But that one song, like the one I mentioned above, displays a clever play on a great literary work, turning a dreary, overly complicated, unbearably long "masterpiece" into a simple, beautiful sentiment, as only Mike can do. "Paradise Found": Milton only wishes he could have come up with something so epic!

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike Love is no genius, he is just a hard working dude.

[Danimalist]

Yes, he works really hard at self-promotion. Bruce and David are excellent disciples.

[Nicko1234]

I just looked up that album. How come Mike didn't write any of the lyrics (except on one song)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Back_with_Love

A shame really that they didn`t re-record some of the First Love songs.

If you were to take the best of the LBWL songs (One Good Reason, On and On and On, Calendar Girl, Teach me Tonight, Paradise Found) and combine them with the best of First Love (Daybreak, You`re Looking Better, Viggie, First Love etc.) then it could have been a genuinely very good album.

[Danimalist]

I just looked up that album. How come Mike didn't write any of the lyrics (except on one song)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looking_Back_with_Love

A shame really that they didn`t re-record some of the First Love songs.

If you were to take the best of the LBWL songs (One Good Reason, On and On and On, Calendar Girl, Teach me Tonight, Paradise Found) and combine them with the best of First Love (Daybreak, You`re Looking Better, Viggie, First Love etc.) then it could have been a genuinely very good album.

Yes, that would have been an awesome album! I bet those covers have never been sung better.

[Nicko1234]

Yes, that would have been an awesome album! I bet those covers have never been sung better.

 

Diddums wants some attention does he? Not getting enough love at home? Or psychosexual problems perhaps? 

[Danimalist]

Yes, that would have been an awesome album! I bet those covers have never been sung better.

 

Diddums wants some attention does he? Not getting enough love at home? Or psychosexual problems perhaps? 

If you call needing to have "Country Pie" as background music in order to get it up a pyschosexual problem, guilty as charged! My wife calls it getting twice the Love!

[Mr. Cohen]

OK, I cave in... aside from voicing a few inconsequential concerns regarding Pet Sounds and Smile, Mike Love was great and THE most important Beach Boy.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Mike's done a lot over the years for fans to have something against him:  The Hall of Fame speech, the resistance to Smile and Pet Sounds, Summer In Paradise, the lawsuits, etc.  But his attitude on surrounding this reunion put it all in the distant past to me.  I'm loving the setlists and I'm loving the renewed camaraderie he and Brian seem to have.  

But then I started seeing his comments about the second half of the new album!  Brian gives us what I think is easily some of his best and best RECEIVED material in SEVERAL DECADES and even throws Mike a few bones (lyrics, plus one of his older songs) and Mike knocks this stuff too, talking about how depressing it is.  Wake up, Mike!  "Spring Vacation" is a fine song but the other two songs you contributed to are almost unanimously named as the weakest tracks on the album.  Pretty much everyone likes the stuff you're knocking.  Let it go.  Stick to running the show on stage and keep your trap shut about Brian's new songs.  

MY "demands" for the next Beach Boys' album?  More of the same.  Brian makes the album he wants and tells Mike what and where to contribute and where to sing.  I personally LOVE that Brian had Jeff involved in the album before he even told Mike about it!  That way, Brian held the cards and all Mike could do was say yes or kill the project everyone wanted.  But knowing Mike's past, he's probably planning to leverage himself into a more democratic set up next time and I for one, hope it doesn't happen.  

Both guys have their strengths.  Mike should stick to being a singer and a showman and stop trying to force his seemingly outdated opinions on Brian and the fans.


...Just my two cents.

What were Mike's comments regarding the closing TWGMLR suite i.e. what is, by some considerable distance, the best thing on the entire album? Honestly, did he really say it was depressing? Is he really so completely and utterly detached from the views and feelings of those (like us) who love the band? Has he not learned anything by now? Hey Mike, remember how much you disliked Til I Die? You know, that song that's now considered a masterpiece and one of the band's finest moments? Well, you've got it wrong again. Christ, if it was left to him we'd have an entire album of Beaches In Mind's. I'd really appreciate if someone could print a direct quote re his remarks, thanks.

Also, i really, really hope their is not another BB album!! History tells us absolutely that they will blow it, so let's just end it on a high, right? That closing suite is a perfect career finale, as is the tour. It'd be great if, for once, they didn't f*** it up and did the right thing and ended on a positive note.

[drbeachboy]

Mike's done a lot over the years for fans to have something against him:  The Hall of Fame speech, the resistance to Smile and Pet Sounds, Summer In Paradise, the lawsuits, etc.  But his attitude on surrounding this reunion put it all in the distant past to me.  I'm loving the setlists and I'm loving the renewed camaraderie he and Brian seem to have. 

But then I started seeing his comments about the second half of the new album!  Brian gives us what I think is easily some of his best and best RECEIVED material in SEVERAL DECADES and even throws Mike a few bones (lyrics, plus one of his older songs) and Mike knocks this stuff too, talking about how depressing it is.  Wake up, Mike!  "Spring Vacation" is a fine song but the other two songs you contributed to are almost unanimously named as the weakest tracks on the album.  Pretty much everyone likes the stuff you're knocking.  Let it go.  Stick to running the show on stage and keep your trap shut about Brian's new songs. 

MY "demands" for the next Beach Boys' album?  More of the same.  Brian makes the album he wants and tells Mike what and where to contribute and where to sing.  I personally LOVE that Brian had Jeff involved in the album before he even told Mike about it!  That way, Brian held the cards and all Mike could do was say yes or kill the project everyone wanted.  But knowing Mike's past, he's probably planning to leverage himself into a more democratic set up next time and I for one, hope it doesn't happen. 

Both guys have their strengths.  Mike should stick to being a singer and a showman and stop trying to force his seemingly outdated opinions on Brian and the fans.


...Just my two cents.

What were Mike's comments regarding the closing TWGMLR suite i.e. what is, by some considerable distance, the best thing on the entire album? Honestly, did he really say it was depressing? Is he really so completely and utterly detached from the views and feelings of those (like us) who love the band? Has he not learned anything by now? Hey Mike, remember how much you disliked Til I Die? You know, that song that's now considered a masterpiece and one of the band's finest moments? Well, you've got it wrong again. Christ, if it was left to him we'd have an entire album of Beaches In Mind's. I'd really appreciate if someone could print a direct quote re his remarks, thanks.

Also, i really, really hope their is not another BB album!! History tells us absolutely that they will blow it, so let's just end it on a high, right? That closing suite is a perfect career finale, as is the tour. It'd be great if, for once, they didn't f*** it up and did the right thing and ended on a positive note.

TWGMTR is a very good album, but a new album could be better. We won't know unless they try.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Wanna bet?