The re-recording of "She Believes In Love Again"

[Rocker]

What ever happened to "Going Private"?
I think there must be a bunch of unreleased gems from those sessions.
I found this interview from 1990:

http://troun.tripod.com/bruce.html

I'd like to know more about this:

You've already done that once, with the "American Band" video.

I didn't think that was very good at all. I thought the home movies of the band driving though Hawaii were pretty superfluous. There's other stuff we could've used - thirty minutes of the band in Japan in 1966, stuff from "Ready, Steady, Go".




 

[Aegir]

The interview seems to be a few years old. Is this really the recording that he was considering for the Beach Boys' new album ?

The interview's from 2009, so it's newer than a bunch of the tracks on the final album!  Probably it would have gotten the "Daybreak" treatment with extra overdubs.  But I suspect it would already have been built around the Carl part by that point, much like "Don't Fight The Sea"...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

I wonder who sings Carl's part on the new version? Brian? Or would these use the same Carl vocal, or maybe an alternate Carl vocal? Hmm. Maybe somebody "in the know" can tell us.

some time a few years ago, Bruce mentioned on the Beach Boys Britain board that he was rerecording She Believes in Love Again with Chris Farmer singing Carl's part. maybe Bruce just likes rerecording this song over and over again.

also, if you write songs it's impossible to go 20 years without writing a song. but that doesn't mean you think it should be given to the Beach Boys. I'm sure Mike, Bruce, Al and David all have tons of songs they play on an acoustic guitar at family parties and stuff, but aren't appropriate for the band / won't sell / et cetera.

[filledeplage]

I thought Bruce said they were using the original Carl vocal, and just stripping down everything surrounding it...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

This is absolutely one of the finest co-leads done together.  OMG.  Even, if you play the old LP, high on the bass, I find it an absolute "chest clutcher," with the orchestration pouring out of the speakers.  

Carl is magnificent, and with the two voices (Bruce's) and the harmony on the background, that it would be awesome on a newer release.  It could almost be analogyzed to Disney Girls, maybe in the less well-known sense; but, just the dreamy quality and background percussion is amazing.  One might  listen with headphones, for the full effect.  

Magnificent song.  

It seems that there will be another album...

Maybe a remake of Only With You, with Dennis' vocals and the guys blended in,  on harmony as in the tribute...The fans are ready for that, I think, from the response at these magnificent shows. POB version is magnificent as well.    

Ya, it is no reunion.  It is a re-birth!  

They are on a roll!  

[Smilin Ed H]

"Don't Run Away would have been a far better song to get the full Beach Boys treatment."

Absolutely gorgeous song.

[Danimalist]

"Hey Bruce, have you written any new songs in the past 20 years or so that we could use for the new album?"
"No, not really. But I do have this really mediocre song that we already released on an album once, maybe we can just do that one again?"
"Uh, yeah, good idea Bruce. We'll think about it."

Shelter for the win.

[Danimalist]

One of the top 5 best tracks on BB 85.

 

[Rocker]

"Hey Bruce, have you written any new songs in the past 20 years or so that we could use for the new album?"
"No, not really. But I do have this really mediocre song that we already released on an album once, maybe we can just do that one again?"
"Uh, yeah, good idea Bruce. We'll think about it."

Shelter for the win.

I guess the deal for the album was from the beginning that it would be a Brian album like the early ones up to Pet Sounds. Mike got his song in there certainly because that was part of his deal with Brian.
If these assumptions are true I wonder how big the chances for Al, David and Bruce actually were to even get a song in there. One of David's songs was begun. We saw a short clip from the "She believes in love again"-sessions. Now, did they do any of Al's material ?

[Smilin Ed H]

"One of the top 5 best tracks on BB 85. "

Because it's a poor album

[Funky Pity]

Ok, ha ha  "She Believes In Love Again" And BB - 85 = Guilty Pleasures of mine!

But I agree with some other fans; I would prefer a remake of this song:

Don't Run Away:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtDGXpfIoz8

I wonder how well known this song is among the fans?

[Disney Boy (1985)]

"Hey Bruce, have you written any new songs in the past 20 years or so that we could use for the new album?"
"No, not really. But I do have this really mediocre song that we already released on an album once, maybe we can just do that one again?"
"Uh, yeah, good idea Bruce. We'll think about it."

Haha fantastic! This here is the truth.

[doc smiley]

Another good Bruce and Terry song that would work well I think  is "Little Beach Girl"

only youtube version I can find is the Pat Boone version, but it gives you the idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oKr7lPKQ0   

[Danimalist]

Another good Bruce and Terry song that would work well I think  is "Little Beach Girl"

only youtube version I can find is the Pat Boone version, but it gives you the idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oKr7lPKQ0   

Somewhere stashed away, I actually have this single. Not sure where I got it, but I bought it because of the writing/arranging credits. Pat was such a musical slut.

[HeyJude]

I guess the deal for the album was from the beginning that it would be a Brian album like the early ones up to Pet Sounds. Mike got his song in there certainly because that was part of his deal with Brian.
If these assumptions are true I wonder how big the chances for Al, David and Bruce actually were to even get a song in there. One of David's songs was begun. We saw a short clip from the "She believes in love again"-sessions. Now, did they do any of Al's material ?

I don't think anything was set in stone about the song selection. The new Rolling Stone article has at least some insight into this. It describes Al continuing to attempt to present "Waves of Love" to Brian and the group to work on, and Brian continually avoiding it both directly or indirectly. The article seems to read as though the author thinks it's a good song, but for some reason Brian doesn't want anything to do with it. It would have been interesting for them to delve a bit further to find out why. Did Brian just not like it too much? Did Carl's appearance on the recording weird him out? Was he aware it was already on Al's solo album?

The whole reunion power structure is interesting and hasn't been fully explored. This recent article got into it more than anybody has. It kind of strikes me that Al is purposely being a bit passive (both in terms of not pushing his stuff on the album or making the setlist politics more severe) just to make sure the whole thing doesn't devolve into too many disagreements. I mean, in some sense, he should have as much say as Brian and Mike in that they all own the BB name/Brother equally. It seems like Al isn't trying to assert too much power in all of this, and I have a feeling that while he's not literally holding this reunion together, we may owe a big thanks to Al for being passive and letting Brian and Mike and their camps do most of the jockeying.

[Ziggy Stardust]

also, if you write songs it's impossible to go 20 years without writing a song. but that doesn't mean you think it should be given to the Beach Boys. I'm sure Mike, Bruce, Al and David all have tons of songs they play on an acoustic guitar at family parties and stuff, but aren't appropriate for the band / won't sell / et cetera.

Impossible.

[buddhahat]

If this was genuinely considered for the new album, I think it would've made a lovely addition and I can think of four or five BW songs I'd happily replace it with.

I was listening to the original in the car this morning and thinking that it's really a beautiful song. A pretty Bruce ballad would really have given the album a more classic 70s feel I think. Hell, the opener sounds like a Bruce tune - I don't know why people aren't more receptive to his stuff.

Imagine if they could use Carl's gorgeous vocal on the chorus too. That could've been stunning.

[Autotune]

Another Bruce Johnston bit: in 1994 he announced that he was going to host his own slow-dancing music radio show. Still waitin'.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Another Bruce Johnston bit: in 1994 he announced that he was going to host his own slow-dancing music radio show. Still waitin'.

Has he got a vagina? i mean jeez, does he write/listen to anything other than slow-love-romantic-cheesy-ballads?

[Doo Dah]

Has he got a vagina? i mean jeez, does he write/listen to anything other than slow-lobe-romantic-cheesy-ballads?

That's funny! Sometimes I wish this board had a facebook 'like' button.
Hey don't be baggin' on Bruce. Did you know he won a grammy? It's true - just ask him!

[Smilin Ed H]

Interesting he was taking way back about the Doris Day album which just came out last year...