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« on: June 06, 2012, 06:23:22 AM »

What gives?  Did Dave not sing anywhere on this album?   I thought he was at least audible on TWGMTR....
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 06:34:50 AM »

perhaps they decided it wasn't worth it? Dave is the electric guitar virtuoso in the band so I guess he's happy doing that.
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 09:56:36 AM »

Is that Dave doing the fills in between the vocals on "Beaches In Mind"?  Whoever it is, the blues licks are mighty distracting and stick out like a sore thumb  Undecided
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 10:00:11 AM »

Is that Dave doing the fills in between the vocals on "Beaches In Mind"?  Whoever it is, the blues licks are mighty distracting and stick out like a sore thumb  Undecided

The only two places where guitar is prominent, "Spring Vacation" and "Beaches In Mind", it's being played by Jeff Baxter from the Doobie Brothers. Makes you wonder what, if any, contribution Dave had on the album. Saw him sing Hawaii a few nights ago, and his performance was pretty good.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 10:03:52 AM »

I was too lazy to look at the liner notes--thanks.

I figured it couldn't have been Dave...I just don't see Dave deciding to insert these Chuck Berry/blues licks all over "Beaches In Mind" like that.  It's my only complaint of the album that's worth complaining about.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 10:20:24 AM »

I hope he will be more present on the next album. Yes, I think there will be a next album...
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 10:31:33 AM »

Is that Dave doing the fills in between the vocals on "Beaches In Mind"?  Whoever it is, the blues licks are mighty distracting and stick out like a sore thumb  Undecided

The only two places where guitar is prominent, "Spring Vacation" and "Beaches In Mind", it's being played by Jeff Baxter from the Doobie Brothers. Makes you wonder what, if any, contribution Dave had on the album. Saw him sing Hawaii a few nights ago, and his performance was pretty good.

I didn't bother reading the credit either but I agree with Justin that guitar fills in those two songs are pretty cliche and unimaginative.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2012, 11:02:28 AM »

I hear David singing in the "that's why God made, that's why God made" part of TWGMTR.



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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2012, 11:08:44 AM »

there is absolutely no way David would sing on the album and not be credited for it in the liner notes.
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2012, 11:09:16 AM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.
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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2012, 11:21:03 AM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.

I read in one of the interviews that he and Mike had worked on a few tracks and presented them for inclusion on the album...so I figured he was there from the beginning. But perhaps not?
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2012, 11:26:43 AM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.

I read in one of the interviews that he and Mike had worked on a few tracks and presented them for inclusion on the album...so I figured he was there from the beginning. But perhaps not?

I think that was mentioned as a possibility -- but I'm not sure they actually put anything together. Remember, the Beach Boys' actual involvement came pretty much at the end of the recording process -- Brian had written most of the songs and recorded full vocal arrangements with Jeff. The group's contribution was basically replacing Jeff's parts one by one. As they spent time in the studio, they worked on some other stuff, but none of it -- apart from "Isn't It Time" -- made it on the record.
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2012, 11:35:33 AM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 11:36:43 AM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....

Is anyone eve disputing that? It slipped up in some interview somewhere that the Beach Boys' deal with Capital is for 3 albums. So I suppose we'll get at least 2 more.
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 11:42:37 AM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....

Is anyone eve disputing that? It slipped up in some interview somewhere that the Beach Boys' deal with Capital is for 3 albums. So I suppose we'll get at least 2 more.

Not at all. The album deal was with the EMI catalogue division. In other words, the two other albums are likely the latest greatest hits set that's coming (with new material) and the new box. All done within the year.
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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 11:47:18 AM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....

Is anyone eve disputing that? It slipped up in some interview somewhere that the Beach Boys' deal with Capital is for 3 albums. So I suppose we'll get at least 2 more.

If there is another album, I wonder if the other Boys will want more creative input, as this one seems to be essentially a Brian-dominated album (surprisingly so, in fact, with their vocals effectively phoned in after the main work was done) with one Mike-written song. If they do want more input another time, let's hope they all keep on getting on and the quality control is maintained. It would be nice to hear a full Bruce or David lead vocal on a future album though.  
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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 12:11:14 PM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....

Is anyone eve disputing that? It slipped up in some interview somewhere that the Beach Boys' deal with Capital is for 3 albums. So I suppose we'll get at least 2 more.

Not at all. The album deal was with the EMI catalogue division. In other words, the two other albums are likely the latest greatest hits set that's coming (with new material) and the new box. All done within the year.

OH ok, that makes sense.  Grin

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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 12:20:17 PM »

Oh yeah, there's gonna be a next album....

Is anyone eve disputing that? It slipped up in some interview somewhere that the Beach Boys' deal with Capital is for 3 albums. So I suppose we'll get at least 2 more.

Not at all. The album deal was with the EMI catalogue division. In other words, the two other albums are likely the latest greatest hits set that's coming (with new material) and the new box. All done within the year.

OH ok, that makes sense.  Grin

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Or maybe a live document of the current tour.
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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2012, 12:31:12 PM »

I wonder about the chances of a holiday re-issue of the album with included documentary / live show as the second disc. And maybe some bonus tracks. Just a guess.
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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 12:58:24 PM »

I hope he will be more present on the next album. Yes, I think there will be a next album...

Me too. Mike said David had some songs of his own to offer to the project as well.

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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 01:09:23 PM »

If they do make a next album, I hope Bruce gets a lead - or at least a few lines. I saw him do Disney Girls at the Hollywood Bowl the other night and he was pitch perfect - even better than Al.
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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 01:32:49 PM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.

They screwed up the lyrics in a number of places that have already been discovered. Who's to say that some of the credits aren't also inaccurate? This booklet could have been a bit of a rush job, even though it looks very nice I must say.
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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 01:34:11 PM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.

They screwed up the lyrics in a number of places that have already been discovered. Who's to say that some of the credits aren't also inaccurate? This booklet could have been a bit of a rush job, even though it looks very nice I must say.

There are definitely inaccuracies. But I doubt that would extend to the point of having one of the five principals not credited with any vocals if he sang them.
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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 02:36:01 PM »

The only thing that saddens me a bit about the album is the lack of any Beach Boy on instruments, other than Dave. That will continue to feed detractors of the band who love to say the guys didn't or couldn't play any instruments on their records. I would love to hear just the 5 BB's write, sing, and play at least one song all by themselves [okay, maybe with a drummer]. But they would have to get out of their comfort zone first...
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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2012, 03:34:21 PM »

Dave is not credited with any vocals on the album. Given the rumors of his relatively late addition to the reunion, it's certainly plausible that his contributions to the album are limited to a few tracks of nearly inaudible rhythm guitar.
I think he plays a fair amount of guitar on the CD, and is credited on about 8 of the tracks. Its just not a very guitar heavy production in general so most of his parts are, shall we say, subtle.
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