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« on: May 27, 2012, 09:01:50 PM »

Must read!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/27/the-beach-boys-crazy-summer.html

70 million in reunion ticket sales (apparently)
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According to someone who would know.

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2012, 09:11:26 PM »

Nice article. Lot of great background material.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2012, 09:13:14 PM »

I want to know which Brian band member was quoted, he should be fired immediately
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2012, 09:50:34 PM »

I want to know which Brian band member was quoted, he should be fired immediately

Yes, whichever Brian Wilson band member who said he's slumming in a "fairground act" on the Beach Boys reunion after doing "art" with Brian as a solo act.  He doesn't deserve the fat paycheck he's getting, with fans paying up to $500 to go see this "fairground act" he's talking about.  It shows a lack of respect for the audience.  It also overlooks that Brian does a lot of the same fairground oldies on every tour he's done and has played fairground  and casino venues himself.

It's a confusing, long-winded article that trots out every cliche about the band members, particularly Brian and Mike. This guy also seems to be under the impression that Brian writes his own lyrics, and that's usually not the case. 

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2012, 10:02:26 PM »

I want to know which Brian band member was quoted, he should be fired immediately

Yes, whichever Brian Wilson band member who said he's slumming in a "fairground act" on the Beach Boys reunion after doing "art" with Brian as a solo act.  He doesn't deserve the fat paycheck he's getting, with fans paying up to $500 to go see this "fairground act" he's talking about.  It shows a lack of respect for the audience.  It also overlooks that Brian does a lot of the same fairground oldies on every tour he's done and has played fairground  and casino venues himself.


I respect him for telling the truth.  And I really doubt the backing band is getting rich off this, though they probably deserve to.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2012, 10:06:37 PM »

Interesting article - some inaccuracies, of course, but the truth about the genesis of the new album/release of TSS/C50 tour has been touched on as dating from two years ago.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2012, 10:06:45 PM »

Oh, yeah, it's soooo hard to tour in a rock band and get free travel, hotel rooms, play first class venues like the Hollywood Bowl, etc.  The BW band member doesn't appreciate what he has in life.  I call that being kind of a jerk, and I don't care if he does have to put up with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston.  I also don't think Brian Wilson is pure "art," sorry.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2012, 10:17:49 PM »

I respect him for telling the truth.  And I really doubt the backing band is getting rich off this, though they probably deserve to.

I'd respect him for telling the truth if he let them use his name. It's easy to be an unnamed source. Either say it for attribution or don't say it.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2012, 10:29:07 PM »

I respect him for telling the truth.  And I really doubt the backing band is getting rich off this, though they probably deserve to.

I'd respect him for telling the truth if he let them use his name. It's easy to be an unnamed source. Either say it for attribution or don't say it.
If you say it for attribution, you can get fired or reprimanded. If you say it anonymously, you can't. Seems like a pretty good choice to me.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2012, 10:35:27 PM »

Anonymous sources are what rags like Newsweek and hacks like Tina Brown are known for in the business of news entertainment. Just a heads-up: They've gotten into trouble this way before. The "Anonymous" source could be a legitimate band member seen performing on stage or it could be the guy who tunes the guitar for a band member...again, that's the problem with anonymous sources.

If it is a band member...c'mon, is it that difficult to assume who out of a small group it probably was if the quotes are true?  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2012, 11:06:07 PM »

Anonymous sources are what rags like Newsweek and hacks like Tina Brown are known for in the business of news entertainment. Just a heads-up: They've gotten into trouble this way before. The "Anonymous" source could be a legitimate band member seen performing on stage or it could be the guy who tunes the guitar for a band member...again, that's the problem with anonymous sources.

If it is a band member...c'mon, is it that difficult to assume who out of a small group it probably was if the quotes are true?  Smiley
If they suspected me, I'd just say "Anonymous sources could be anyone, even the guy who tunes a guitar for a band member..."

True though, who knows whether it was actually a band member quoted in the article... Still a very interesting piece. Too bad they aren't opening the second set with "Our Prayer..."
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2012, 11:24:28 PM »

A suite yet unreleased?

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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2012, 11:37:23 PM »

Ugh. I get what the writer was trying to do, but five pages of abject negativity completely overpowers the last two "uplifting" pages. It would have been more effective to mix in lighter more uplifting moments during those first five pages. There's no way everything was THAT bad during the sessions he was present for/the New Orleans Jazz Fest.
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2012, 02:07:23 AM »

That's one powerful article right there. Very well written and with insight only an informed fan/Smiley Smiler could have. I never knew that Brian had the idea of changing their name to 'Beach', always thought it was a Carl or Dennis suggestion. Wonder what woulda happened if they had done so. Didn't harm them in the early 70's keeping their name, but ES and 15BO destroyed all that, then came the rediculous KTSA album cover which damaged their image beyond repair....
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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2012, 02:25:45 AM »

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...Or it isn't until someone's iPhone rings. Jardine's. He turns away from the piano and presses the device to his ear. "I'm going to have to call you back, because--wait, what?" He hangs up, shaking his head. "Dick Clark just passed away," he says. The room begins to murmur; the makeup lady covers her mouth with her hand. Over the next few minutes, I watch as each Beach Boy absorbs the news. Love makes light of it, pretending to strangle Jardine behind his back. “You’re next, Al,” he purrs.

...And this is why I like Mike Love  LOL
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2012, 03:58:46 AM »

I like this very much. Unvarnished, but not sensational, either. In general, it feels like the truth.

Also ... Five of the songs on the album are new? Including FHTBA? That's a lot! Seems like confirmed new list is up to Shelter, Bill and Sue, Days, Isn't it Time and FHTBA -- that's a lot of good stuff,
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2012, 05:20:57 AM »

A great article so far, and i love this section:

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Subliminally, Brian has always channeled his apprehensions into his music; his "teenage heart" could never help it. "Don't Worry Baby” is supposed to be a song about drag racing, but it's actually a song about being afraid of drag racing, at least until "she makes love to me," as Brian puts it, and repeats the title phrase. The tidiest summary of Brian’s genius might be the way the entire track shifts, imperceptibly, into a higher, happier key at that very moment, comforting the listener just as the singer’s girlfriend comforts him.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2012, 05:37:32 AM »

Ugh. I get what the writer was trying to do, but five pages of abject negativity completely overpowers the last two "uplifting" pages. It would have been more effective to mix in lighter more uplifting moments during those first five pages. There's no way everything was THAT bad during the sessions he was present for/the New Orleans Jazz Fest.

Agreed, and not focused on the actual work. 

No discretion. 

Felt voyeuristic. 

Overpowers the few positive paragraphs. 

Yuk.
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2012, 05:56:32 AM »

That's one powerful article right there. Very well written and with insight only an informed fan/Smiley Smiler could have. I never knew that Brian had the idea of changing their name to 'Beach', always thought it was a Carl or Dennis suggestion. Wonder what woulda happened if they had done so. Didn't harm them in the early 70's keeping their name, but ES and 15BO destroyed all that, then came the rediculous KTSA album cover which damaged their image beyond repair....

Lots of bands shortened their names during that time.  Think Chicago was Chicago Transit Authority, eg. 

Thought it was Jack Reiley who who suggested it? 

Perhaps Andrew can clarify...

And, I don't find this guy knows much about the Beach Boys music.  He should start with the liner notes, even if it is sanitized propaganda from the record company. He would at least know who wrote what, see the serious spiritual "adult" music alongside the high school/car/girly/surf music. 

Better, listen to the enitre catalog. And have some informed opinions. 

He should stick to food and politics.    Wink

p.s. Pet Sounds and SMiLE would not have been possible without the "building blocks" of the early catalog work.  There is much profound lesser-known work in their earlier work, sort of a prefiguration of what was to evolve.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2012, 06:05:08 AM »

It's not voyeuristic at all. We gossip about far worse here nearly daily. I thought the look into the rehearsal was pretty cool, and a nice antidote to some of the sanitized happy talk around the reunion. There are still tensions there, but the guys are also genuinely working to interact again and build a good show. That's far more likely, and far more interesting, to read about than the Marksian nonsense of "everything fell into place like 1961 again."

The factual errors are minor and generally the result of trying to fit a messy narrative into a single piece. I see precious little negativity -- just the usual attempt to tell Brian's story, which -- sans the music -- is largely a difficult one. The subhed to the article is nonsense -- the one bit I really don't like -- but nothing else strikes me as particularly off. The author is clearly more informed than many critics who write about the band, and who cares if he hasn't heard the whole catalog? You can't make that a requirement to write about a group, or there would never be any articles written about any veteran musical act.

Finally, the band member quoted anonymously shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Not everyone in Brian's band agrees with one another. Some members have not participated when Brian toured hits exclusively. Some members had never been to a Beach Boys show until they played in one. So be it. Not everyone has to agree or believe in the same things to make great music.
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I want to know which Brian band member was quoted, he should be fired immediately

Yes, whichever Brian Wilson band member who said he's slumming in a "fairground act" on the Beach Boys reunion after doing "art" with Brian as a solo act...doesn't deserve the fat paycheck he's getting..."
 


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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2012, 06:26:20 AM »

Thanks for the link !


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They’d recorded all of their parts in separate sessions; no huddling around the microphone, 1966-style.

Is there any truth to it ? I always heard that the sessions were Beach Boys sessions with all the guys singing together.



Re: the fairground act:

The band member didn't say the Beach Boys were a fairground act. He did say "Now we are kind of at the fairgrounds.” and that probably was tongue-in-cheek because they were at the Jazz Fest. The sentence about art is a little unlucky but what the hell ? It's not that big as everybody here tries to make it



All in all a good read. Although imo another one of those guys who don't see the band as a band but as Brian's workers
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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2012, 06:36:43 AM »

It's not voyeuristic at all. We gossip about far worse here nearly daily. I thought the look into the rehearsal was pretty cool, and a nice antidote to some of the sanitized happy talk around the reunion. There are still tensions there, but the guys are also genuinely working to interact again and build a good show. That's far more likely, and far more interesting, to read about than the Marksian nonsense of "everything fell into place like 1961 again."

The factual errors are minor and generally the result of trying to fit a messy narrative into a single piece. I see precious little negativity -- just the usual attempt to tell Brian's story, which -- sans the music -- is largely a difficult one. The subhed to the article is nonsense -- the one bit I really don't like -- but nothing else strikes me as particularly off. The author is clearly more informed than many critics who write about the band, and who cares if he hasn't heard the whole catalog? You can't make that a requirement to write about a group, or there would never be any articles written about any veteran musical act.

Finally, the band member quoted anonymously shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Not everyone in Brian's band agrees with one another. Some members have not participated when Brian toured hits exclusively. Some members had never been to a Beach Boys show until they played in one. So be it. Not everyone has to agree or believe in the same things to make great music.

There may be gossip, here, but it, is more like Vegas gossip, is not Newsweek.  Most fans don't get into the debate. Joe the Plumber reads Newsweek.

And, I hope not everyone agrees on everything. How boring would life be!  There is cohesiveness on stage; where it matters. I don't thing it fairly represents the show or the tour.  King Arthur's Round table seems to be where it's at to make this reunion happen.  

I felt creeped out.  Maybe a guy would not feel that way.   Wink



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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2012, 07:08:48 AM »

creeped out??

anyway, nice article.  I really have my doubts we'd get another Beach Boys album, but it'd be interesting if we did.
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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2012, 07:36:22 AM »

creeped out??

anyway, nice article.  I really have my doubts we'd get another Beach Boys album, but it'd be interesting if we did.

Ya, I was creeped out. The guy is writing for a major news outlet, not a community newspaper, many of which have excellent "hungry" writers, who dig to get a story and who do their homework.  I found it "sloppy." The subject matter is vast; that is a given.  It can't be boiled down to an article or even a book.  But, not unlike picking your battles to gird for war, one must narrow the topics.  And do a good job with those. 

Brian may embody the Beach Boys concept but, "No Man is an Island..." It is not better visually  captured than when they sing around Brian, at the piano, post Intermission, for "Add Some Music to Your Day." Those five or so minutes, tell more of the story than the drivel in his article.  David Marks also verbally captured it interestingly, with his concept of a "bubble" surrounding them; the years have passed, but, not the synergy.

People might be surprised with what music writing might happen during and after this tour.  People are often more creative as they age, and become more philosophical in thought and continue to learn. 

It ain't over, til it's over.   Wink
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