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Author Topic: Eugene Landy, psychologist who treated Brian Wilson, dies at 71  (Read 19766 times)
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« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2016, 02:56:08 AM »

Geez, that would mean Landy would be 81 if still alive....
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« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 AM »

I'm inclined to say thank you to Landy for saving Brian's life in the early '80s, but then I remember, you know, all the OTHER stuff he did, and then I start feeling conflicted. So I guess I'll just say:

R.I.P. (Rest in purgatory, where everything's all neutral and whatnot, but mostly unpleasant)
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« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2016, 10:55:16 AM »

I had a feeling today was the 10th anniversary of his death. Sucks to die of pneumonia, but good riddance nonetheless.

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« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2016, 11:03:23 AM »

Sucks to die of lung cancer too.
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« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2016, 11:26:14 AM »

Sucks to die.
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« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2016, 01:17:22 PM »

Has anyone ever heard of Landy speaking of his time with Brian, either in an interview, or just to a friend/fan who asked him, at any point between 1992 to 2006? I mean, surely he must have had conversations about said topics with Alexandra Morgan, but I would think maybe others too. I can't believe that Landy didn't look back and have an ounce of realization that he acted like a big giant turd, especially about trying to sneak into Brian's will and take as much as his actual children got.

He *must* have had a twinge that this was wrong, in hindsight, in the back of his sick mind. Maybe it's my misguided belief that all people have *some* good in them that makes me think this...

Did anybody go to Hawaii and try to find him during this time?
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« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2016, 01:26:13 PM »

I can tell you this from my chat with Alexandra Morgan, who officially became Landy's wife before his death, that they ended their years together feeling victimized by their association with Brian Wilson and his family.
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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2016, 01:30:59 PM »

There was only one victim in that whole sorry mess, and his initials weren't EEL.
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« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2016, 02:01:44 PM »

I can tell you this from my chat with Alexandra Morgan, who officially became Landy's wife before his death, that they ended their years together feeling victimized by their association with Brian Wilson and his family.

I do recall hearing this quote, but I still just can't conceive how Landy could have justified trying to steal a chunk of Brian's will as being an acceptable, commendable, and defensible thing to do. I mean, obviously, Evan Landy in his interview completely sidestepped this part of the story. That tells me that he knows it's wrong in his heart and was an indefensible action, even if Evan thinks other aspects of his dad are misunderstood.

But Eugene and Alexandra, whether they were willing to talk about it publicly or not, knew what they did with the will issue. Either they actually felt that was "ok", or they perhaps thought they went too far in that respect (not to mention other respects of course) but just wouldn't admit it.

Was Landy even aware of the physical/cognitive effects suffered by Brian due to over-medication under Landy's watch? I can just picture him avoiding the question if posed to him, just like he avoided other questions 20/20.

But if forced to actually a list of questions posed to him, without avoiding/dodging questions, I cannot conceive that Landy would actually defend all the things he did. Impossible for me to fathom anyone could be that insane.
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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2016, 02:05:41 PM »

I can tell you this from my chat with Alexandra Morgan, who officially became Landy's wife before his death, that they ended their years together feeling victimized by their association with Brian Wilson and his family.

I do recall hearing this quote, but I still just can't conceive how Landy could have justified trying to steal a chunk of Brian's will as being an acceptable, commendable, and defensible thing to do. I mean, obviously, Evan Landy in his interview completely sidestepped this part of the story. But Eugene and Alexandra, whether they were willing to talk about it publicly or not, knew what they did. Either they actually felt that was "ok", or they perhaps thought they went too far in that respect (not to mention other respects of course) but just wouldn't admit it.

Was Landy even aware of the physical/cognitive effects suffered by Brian due to over-medication under Landy's watch? I can just picture him avoiding the question if posed to him, just like he avoided other questions 20/20.

But if forced to actually a list of questions posed to him, without avoiding/dodging questions, I cannot conceive that Landy would actually defend all the things he did. Impossible for me to fathom anyone could be that insane.
I can imagine him justifying it to himself because they were 'partners,' Brian's actual family was bad for/to him and Landy became his real family, Brian owed him his life and later career, etc. I think all those justifications would be BS and he should've been prosecuted, not just have his CA license withdrawn, but I think these are the sorts of justifications a narcissist would make.
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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2016, 02:13:59 PM »

I can tell you this from my chat with Alexandra Morgan, who officially became Landy's wife before his death, that they ended their years together feeling victimized by their association with Brian Wilson and his family.

I do recall hearing this quote, but I still just can't conceive how Landy could have justified trying to steal a chunk of Brian's will as being an acceptable, commendable, and defensible thing to do. I mean, obviously, Evan Landy in his interview completely sidestepped this part of the story. But Eugene and Alexandra, whether they were willing to talk about it publicly or not, knew what they did. Either they actually felt that was "ok", or they perhaps thought they went too far in that respect (not to mention other respects of course) but just wouldn't admit it.

Was Landy even aware of the physical/cognitive effects suffered by Brian due to over-medication under Landy's watch? I can just picture him avoiding the question if posed to him, just like he avoided other questions 20/20.

But if forced to actually a list of questions posed to him, without avoiding/dodging questions, I cannot conceive that Landy would actually defend all the things he did. Impossible for me to fathom anyone could be that insane.
I can imagine him justifying it to himself because they were 'partners,' Brian's actual family was bad for/to him and Landy became his real family, Brian owed him his life and later career, etc. I think all those justifications would be BS and he should've been prosecuted, not just have his CA license withdrawn, but I think these are the sorts of justifications a narcissist would make.

I suppose so. Hard to understand a sick mind like that. Landy seems to be the most mentally ill person in the entire BBs story. Or maybe neck-and-neck in a race with Murry.

I recall in the 20/20 interview, there was a moment where Diane Sawyer said that Landy himself experienced some known mental health issues, but that Eugene wouldn't comment on that. This wasn't some "guess" or armchair diagnosis made by Diane Sawyer, but as I recall it was said to be an actual, documented incident of some sort. Does anyone know more about this? I think it's important to know more about the psychology that goes into that kind of sick behavior, kind of how people studied Nazis in the decades following WWII to understand how it happened. I wonder if Landy, much like Murry, was destined to be as sick a person as he was, or if he ever could have gotten his narcissism in check.
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« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2016, 08:47:42 PM »

Eugene Landy or Rocky Pamplin?

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« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2016, 09:57:15 PM »

Eugene Landy or Rocky Pamplion?

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« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2016, 10:26:10 PM »

Eugene Landy or Rocky Pamplion?

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« Reply #64 on: March 30, 2016, 09:17:25 PM »

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