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FatherOfTheMan Sr101
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/DENNIS-WILSON-RARE-ADVANCE-AUTOGRAPHED-PROMO-PACIFIC-OCEAN-BLUE-BEACH-BOYS-/150798811852?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item231c4f42cc#ht_5200wt_1163
Surely not real!?!?! WOAH!
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Damn, if my name was Robert and I could justify spending a thousand dollars on an album I'd never play, I would be all over that.
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on May 03, 2012, 02:21:47 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/DENNIS-WILSON-RARE-ADVANCE-AUTOGRAPHED-PROMO-PACIFIC-OCEAN-BLUE-BEACH-BOYS-/150798811852?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item231c4f42cc#ht_5200wt_1163
Surely not real!?!?! WOAH!
Yes, it appears to be an actual advance promo copy.
The Dennis signature is legit. The greeting, "Dear Robert" may also be in dennis' hand. All the rest was written by a staffer.
The White label LP is no different than any of the other umpteen copies of the promo, whether they came with the actuaql cover or this one.
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May 03, 2012, 03:00:14 PM »
That's a pretty cool piece. Would look great in a really nice large frame so you could fan the album out from the cover.
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May 03, 2012, 03:10:10 PM »
I've seen several of these pop up on Ebay over the years. I really wonder if it is actualy DW's hand writing. The message is always exactly the same on each one. Did Dennis actual sit down and hand write several of these letters to go with the promotional album, or did somebody else write them and then have Dennis sign them, or is it a "secretarial" signature"?
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Quote from: acedecade75 on May 03, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
I've seen several of these pop up on Ebay over the years. I really wonder if it is actualy DW's hand writing. The message is always exactly the same on each one. Did Dennis actual sit down and hand write several of these letters to go with the promotional album, or did somebody else write them and then have Dennis sign them, or is it a "secretarial" signature"?
Wondering that too. Doesn't look like his handwriting?
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Bgas above said that Denny signed and possibly wrote the name, but the rest was a staffer. For the full story... look up 3 posts.
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May 03, 2012, 03:27:27 PM »
There were quite a few of those white-labelled Caribou promo albums distributed. I always saw them in used record stores in the late 70's.
I've also seen that letter before somewhere. I'd like Jon Stebbins and/or AGD to chime in here, but do you recognize that letter, either from a publication or on the Internet somewhere or in a previous auction? I'm not so sure it's personalized to just "Robert". Dennis might have made a few of those up and put different names of DJ's on them. Sounds a little far-fetched, but I know I've seen that entire letter before. Could be I've seen the same one up for auction before, but not sure.
P.S. It doesn't look anywhere's
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the Dennis Wilson signature that I have. And I know mine's legit!!
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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Quote from: acedecade75 on May 03, 2012, 03:10:10 PM
I've seen several of these pop up on Ebay over the years. I really wonder if it is actualy DW's hand writing. The message is always exactly the same on each one. Did Dennis actual sit down and hand write several of these letters to go with the promotional album, or did somebody else write them and then have Dennis sign them, or is it a "secretarial" signature"?
Exactly! You beat me to it.
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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If you look at the "e" in Robert, it was written by the same guy who wrote the same weird "e" in "Very" and "Understand" for instance. So whoever wrote the paragraph also wrote the name in at the top. So likely the only legit thing is Dennis's signature (which is in a different color pen, btw).
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Quote from: Ron on May 03, 2012, 03:44:02 PM
So likely the only legit thing is Dennis's signature (which is in a different color pen, btw).
Not necessarily a different pen. Looks to be a black pen (or marker) on the sig as well as the letter. Looks to be the same black consistency in some parts of the sig, a little lighter in other parts.
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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May 03, 2012, 04:04:51 PM »
didn't you guys buy the reissued cd? that handscrawn note is in all of them. I assumed it was in the original LP too. it's the signature that makes it a big deal. unless the signature is on there too, i don't recall
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May 03, 2012, 04:12:11 PM »
To me, it appears that the letter portion is actually printed
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the actual album and not written by Dennis or a staffer. The only part that may be handwritten is the "Dear Robert" and the signature. You don't see a discoloration between the board and the letters...it seems to be all the same surface...no interuption of the pen "resting" on the board. Of course this could be the case since it is an older piece. But the ink on the letter is way too perfect for it to be from a live pen. You can see the streaks of the marker on the signature---not anywhere in the letter. Just my two cents...
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The "letter" was "printed" on the plain white cover of about 300 of these advance copies. The only thing that was actually written on them was the personalized part "Dear" whoever...and then Dennis signed the bottom. These are rare, but probably worth closer to 300 or 400 bucks. And yes, everybody who bought the POB Legacy edition CD in 2008 knows that they put a reproduction of this in the package.
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It's in the Sony/Legacy CD package!! I KNEW I saw it somewhere!!
So the "Dear whomever" and signature is legit Dennis Wilson writing then.
I have multiple copies of the promo album but the sleeves are plain white and don't have letters on them. But only 300 were done like the one above anyway, so...... mine ain't so rare. Darn.
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I, I love the colorful clothes she wears, and she's already working on my brain. I only looked in her eyes, but I picked up something I just can't explain. I, I bet I know what she’s like, and I can feel how right she’d be for me. It’s weird how she comes in so strong, and I wonder what she’s picking up from me. I hope it’s good, good, good, good vibrations, yeah!!
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Glad that's all cleared up now
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on May 03, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
The "letter" was "printed" on the plain white cover of about 300 of these advance copies. The only thing that was actually written on them was the personalized part "Dear" whoever...and then Dennis signed the bottom. These are rare, but probably worth closer to 300 or 400 bucks. And yes, everybody who bought the POB Legacy edition CD in 2008 knows that they put a reproduction of this in the package.
i feel like you were just called into an episode of Pawn Stars.
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May 03, 2012, 09:51:52 PM »
Dennis sure had a strange looking signature in his later years. I have a mid 1970s 45rpm record signed by the group, and his signature looks the same there as it does on this document.
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If it is phony, at least it's not as phony as the 1985 album autographed by all the guys -- including Dennis -- that was up on eBay a few years ago....
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Quote from: 37!ws on May 04, 2012, 08:23:53 AM
If it is phony, at least it's not as phony as the 1985 album autographed by all the guys -- including Dennis -- that was up on eBay a few years ago....
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Quote from: Runaways on May 03, 2012, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on May 03, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
The "letter" was "printed" on the plain white cover of about 300 of these advance copies. The only thing that was actually written on them was the personalized part "Dear" whoever...and then Dennis signed the bottom. These are rare, but probably worth closer to 300 or 400 bucks. And yes, everybody who bought the POB Legacy edition CD in 2008 knows that they put a reproduction of this in the package.
i feel like you were just called into an episode of Pawn Stars.
Funny you mention this, I was just going to mention that show and how they have said numerous times not to trust anything autographed by a celebrity unless it can be authenticated or documented. There is just so much crap on auction sites and so many suspicious items with forged signatures, it's like walking into a minefield unless you have good documentation.
Go write it up, Chumlee...
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Quote from: guitarfool2002 on May 04, 2012, 10:29:25 AM
Quote from: Runaways on May 03, 2012, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on May 03, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
The "letter" was "printed" on the plain white cover of about 300 of these advance copies. The only thing that was actually written on them was the personalized part "Dear" whoever...and then Dennis signed the bottom. These are rare, but probably worth closer to 300 or 400 bucks. And yes, everybody who bought the POB Legacy edition CD in 2008 knows that they put a reproduction of this in the package.
i feel like you were just called into an episode of Pawn Stars.
Funny you mention this, I was just going to mention that show and how they have said numerous times not to trust anything autographed by a celebrity unless it can be authenticated or documented. There is just so much crap on auction sites and so many suspicious items with forged signatures, it's like walking into a minefield unless you have good documentation.
Go write it up, Chumlee...
What about my 8x10 of Sean Connery, signed by Roger Moore?
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BTW, if anybody has any issues with not having a certificate of Autenticity for their autographs, I'll be happy to print you out one with my Microsoft Word program, then sign it.
"I, Ron, Certify that this signature is an actual signature by the listed party. Signed, ____________(Ron)_________"
It'll look just like whatever certificate of authenticity whoever you got your autograph from printed out on HIS Microsoft Word program
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Quote from: Ron on May 04, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
BTW, if anybody has any issues with not having a certificate of Autenticity for their autographs, I'll be happy to print you out one with my Microsoft Word program, then sign it.
"I, Ron, Certify that this signature is an actual signature by the listed party. Signed, ____________(Ron)_________"
It'll look just like whatever certificate of authenticity whoever you got your autograph from printed out on HIS Microsoft Word program
Funny, but true! I think it's hilarious when sellers offer these certificates. as if that makes the sigs seem better.
Either they're real, or they're not; and if you can't tell, you shouldn't be buying them, unless you don't really care/ can afford to buy fakes and not worry about the $$ spent.
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