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« Reply #550 on: August 06, 2017, 05:18:40 AM »

Welcome, JL. Didn't hear the 2 songs you say.

Larry recently posted the famous band's (yet I didn't get chance to check them) song: https://ironleg.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/genesis-where-the-sour-turns-to-sweet/

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« Reply #551 on: August 06, 2017, 10:49:56 AM »

Welcome, JL. Didn't hear the 2 songs you say.

Larry recently posted the famous band's (yet I didn't get chance to check them) song: https://ironleg.wordpress.com/2017/07/30/genesis-where-the-sour-turns-to-sweet/

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And yeah, I love David Ruffin's solo work. He was great with the Temptations, but his first 3 or 4 solo albums are mostly excellent. 'David', the album from which I got those songs, was released in 2004 after being in the vault for decades. Check it out: every song is a masterpiece, and it's one of the greatest albums I've ever heard (and I don't say things like that lightly).

Song I'm obsessing over today:

Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0



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« Reply #552 on: August 06, 2017, 10:56:11 AM »


And yeah, I love David Ruffin's solo work. He was great with the Temptations, but his first 3 or 4 solo albums are mostly excellent. 'David', the album from which I got those songs, was released in 2004 after being in the vault for decades. Check it out: every song is a masterpiece, and it's one of the greatest albums I've ever heard (and I don't say things like that lightly).

Song I'm obsessing over today:

Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0


Agree on both counts. Ruffin's My Whole World Ended is fabulous, too. I just love that album.

And the latter, while a lot of later Queen doesn't really stand out for me, that particular tune returns to my head all the time. I'm not a huge fan of the production--it was of the time, and the synth sounds and atmosphere of it aren't really my thing--but the song is just so good. The melody of the refrain is great, not really something you'd expect from a rock band, it reminds me more of a musical showtune (not that this is a rarity for Freddie's songs). Plus it's just funny. Freddie was so funny.
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« Reply #553 on: August 06, 2017, 11:22:29 AM »


And yeah, I love David Ruffin's solo work. He was great with the Temptations, but his first 3 or 4 solo albums are mostly excellent. 'David', the album from which I got those songs, was released in 2004 after being in the vault for decades. Check it out: every song is a masterpiece, and it's one of the greatest albums I've ever heard (and I don't say things like that lightly).

Song I'm obsessing over today:

Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0


Agree on both counts. Ruffin's My Whole World Ended is fabulous, too. I just love that album.

And the latter, while a lot of later Queen doesn't really stand out for me, that particular tune returns to my head all the time. I'm not a huge fan of the production--it was of the time, and the synth sounds and atmosphere of it aren't really my thing--but the song is just so good. The melody of the refrain is great, not really something you'd expect from a rock band, it reminds me more of a musical showtune (not that this is a rarity for Freddie's songs). Plus it's just funny. Freddie was so funny.

I think the music video gave me a greater appreciation for the song, especially knowing that Freddie was not well, and the video shoot was quite taxing on him.   Through all the pain and the knowledge that he was dying, he retained his humor.

That makes The Show Must Go On (closing track from the same Innuendo album) one of the most powerful in their entire catalog. 
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« Reply #554 on: August 06, 2017, 01:07:05 PM »


And yeah, I love David Ruffin's solo work. He was great with the Temptations, but his first 3 or 4 solo albums are mostly excellent. 'David', the album from which I got those songs, was released in 2004 after being in the vault for decades. Check it out: every song is a masterpiece, and it's one of the greatest albums I've ever heard (and I don't say things like that lightly).

Song I'm obsessing over today:

Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0


Agree on both counts. Ruffin's My Whole World Ended is fabulous, too. I just love that album.

And the latter, while a lot of later Queen doesn't really stand out for me, that particular tune returns to my head all the time. I'm not a huge fan of the production--it was of the time, and the synth sounds and atmosphere of it aren't really my thing--but the song is just so good. The melody of the refrain is great, not really something you'd expect from a rock band, it reminds me more of a musical showtune (not that this is a rarity for Freddie's songs). Plus it's just funny. Freddie was so funny.

I think the music video gave me a greater appreciation for the song, especially knowing that Freddie was not well, and the video shoot was quite taxing on him.   Through all the pain and the knowledge that he was dying, he retained his humor.

That makes The Show Must Go On (closing track from the same Innuendo album) one of the most powerful in their entire catalog. 

the captain - I agree, My Whole World Ended is great too. Both that and 'David' are my favorite two albums of his. I also enjoy 'David Ruffin' from 1973 and 'Gentleman Ruffin' from 1980 (they sure loved putting his name in album titles). Yeah, the heavy synth production stuff I've never been a big fan of (with a few exceptions of course). I go back and fourth on Queen because they are technically one of my favorite bands, but I don't care for a surprising amount of their songs. I don't like their really early stuff too much, nor their 'mid-period' sound from 1980-1984 save for a few songs; but I absolutely love their late 70's and late 80's/early 90's work the most. I think it's unfortunate how a lot of their best work went basically ignored in the US, when it was very popular in a lot of other countries (reminds me of another band that we all know and love...)

KDS - Yes, I was going to mention that Freddie wrote the song because of how he was feeling. Allegedly he was suffering from dementia caused by AIDS, and thus he was going 'slightly mad'. The video and lyrics reflect this. So it is entertaining (he probably thought it was and his bandmates too from what I could glean from some behind the scenes footage), but tragic at the same time. Which could be said for the entire album 'Innuendo', that one has entranced me since I first heard it when I was 14. It's my favorite Queen album. I love 'The Show Must Go On' too, and 'These Are the Days Of Our Lives'. Not to mention the title track...dang, I'm gonna have to listen to it again. :D

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« Reply #555 on: August 06, 2017, 01:21:17 PM »


And yeah, I love David Ruffin's solo work. He was great with the Temptations, but his first 3 or 4 solo albums are mostly excellent. 'David', the album from which I got those songs, was released in 2004 after being in the vault for decades. Check it out: every song is a masterpiece, and it's one of the greatest albums I've ever heard (and I don't say things like that lightly).

Song I'm obsessing over today:

Queen: I'm Going Slightly Mad - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6hY_50Dh0


Agree on both counts. Ruffin's My Whole World Ended is fabulous, too. I just love that album.

And the latter, while a lot of later Queen doesn't really stand out for me, that particular tune returns to my head all the time. I'm not a huge fan of the production--it was of the time, and the synth sounds and atmosphere of it aren't really my thing--but the song is just so good. The melody of the refrain is great, not really something you'd expect from a rock band, it reminds me more of a musical showtune (not that this is a rarity for Freddie's songs). Plus it's just funny. Freddie was so funny.

I think the music video gave me a greater appreciation for the song, especially knowing that Freddie was not well, and the video shoot was quite taxing on him.   Through all the pain and the knowledge that he was dying, he retained his humor.

That makes The Show Must Go On (closing track from the same Innuendo album) one of the most powerful in their entire catalog. 

the captain - I agree, My Whole World Ended is great too. Both that and 'David' are my favorite two albums of his. I also enjoy 'David Ruffin' from 1973 and 'Gentleman Ruffin' from 1980 (they sure loved putting his name in album titles). Yeah, the heavy synth production stuff I've never been a big fan of (with a few exceptions of course). I go back and fourth on Queen because they are technically one of my favorite bands, but I don't care for a surprising amount of their songs. I don't like their really early stuff too much, nor their 'mid-period' sound from 1980-1984 save for a few songs; but I absolutely love their late 70's and late 80's/early 90's work the most. I think it's unfortunate how a lot of their best work went basically ignored in the US, when it was very popular in a lot of other countries (reminds me of another band that we all know and love...)

KDS - Yes, I was going to mention that Freddie wrote the song because of how he was feeling. Allegedly he was suffering from dementia caused by AIDS, and thus he was going 'slightly mad'. The video and lyrics reflect this. So it is entertaining (he probably thought it was and his bandmates too from what I could glean from some behind the scenes footage), but tragic at the same time. Which could be said for the entire album 'Innuendo', that one has entranced me since I first heard it when I was 14. It's my favorite Queen album. I love 'The Show Must Go On' too, and 'These Are the Days Of Our Lives'. Not to mention the title track...dang, I'm gonna have to listen to it again. :D

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Innuendo is probably my favorite post 70s Queen album (the first 5 are my favorites).  The title track is one of the most overlooked songs in their catalog, partly because the album had so many strong songs. 
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« Reply #556 on: August 06, 2017, 01:32:41 PM »

I agree on several fronts with you both (but won't bore you with point-by-point explanations!).

Regarding favorite post-70s albums, KDS, I almost can agree there. But I go back and forth between Innuendo and The Game, which (despite being the intro to synths and the dance music I know you don't like at all) had some amazing things on it. I absolutely love the title track, "Save Me," and "Need Your Loving Tonight" as much as I like the two big singles. But Innuendo, that is truly a really good album, especially considering the shape Freddie was in (as you mentioned). Whatever there is I don't like about it, it's still got more than enough to offer fans of almost any period of the group, even if it was all through the production of the day. But hard rock, silliness, epic near-prog, showtunes, ... Queen really delivered.

(All that said, I love A Kind of Magic, too. Maybe now and again that would be my pick...)
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« Reply #557 on: August 06, 2017, 01:38:07 PM »

I agree on several fronts with you both (but won't bore you with point-by-point explanations!).

Regarding favorite post-70s albums, KDS, I almost can agree there. But I go back and forth between Innuendo and The Game, which (despite being the intro to synths and the dance music I know you don't like at all) had some amazing things on it. I absolutely love the title track, "Save Me," and "Need Your Loving Tonight" as much as I like the two big singles. But Innuendo, that is truly a really good album, especially considering the shape Freddie was in (as you mentioned). Whatever there is I don't like about it, it's still got more than enough to offer fans of almost any period of the group, even if it was all through the production of the day. But hard rock, silliness, epic near-prog, showtunes, ... Queen really delivered.

(All that said, I love A Kind of Magic, too. Maybe now and again that would be my pick...)

I think Queen has a lot I like on all their albums.

The Game is strong.  Save Me is amazing.

Flash Gordon and Hot Space even hsve their moments.

I think The Works, Magic, and The Miracle are inconsisent, but each album has some classics.  Keep Passing the Open Windows in a nice album track, even though it reminds me a lot of Steppin Out by Joe Jackson.  Was It All Worth It from The Miracle would been a nice swan song if Innuendo didnt exist.
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« Reply #558 on: August 06, 2017, 01:47:17 PM »

Was It All Worth It from The Miracle would been a nice swan song if Innuendo didnt exist.

That's a really good point. Obviously "The Show Must Go On" ends up being similarly great in its place as the actual closer (assuming you don't count Made In Heaven as a proper finale, but a posthumous collection). But yeah, "Was It All Worth It" would have been great, too. I wonder if that was intentional. Unless I'm mistaken, Freddie knew he had AIDS before The Miracle. So maybe they were thinking that way? (I hope you don't think it's crass to consider that viewpoint. But Queen were business-savvy, legacy-savvy to some degree, and absolutely had an eye for drama. I wouldn't put it past them, and that's no insult.)

Almost makes a person hope "Summer's Gone" can become "Was It All Worth It"...
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« Reply #559 on: August 06, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »

Was It All Worth It from The Miracle would been a nice swan song if Innuendo didnt exist.

That's a really good point. Obviously "The Show Must Go On" ends up being similarly great in its place as the actual closer (assuming you don't count Made In Heaven as a proper finale, but a posthumous collection). But yeah, "Was It All Worth It" would have been great, too. I wonder if that was intentional. Unless I'm mistaken, Freddie knew he had AIDS before The Miracle. So maybe they were thinking that way? (I hope you don't think it's crass to consider that viewpoint. But Queen were business-savvy, legacy-savvy to some degree, and absolutely had an eye for drama. I wouldn't put it past them, and that's no insult.)

Almost makes a person hope "Summer's Gone" can become "Was It All Worth It"...

I actually don't think that's crass at all. In fact I too think that it's correct, it seems the entire group was using his illness for not only creative inspiration but also for, as you mentioned, legacy. Not to suggest they themselves were crass, lol, because of course they were sad over the situation. But Queen was one of the smartest rock groups I've ever seen in many respects and no doubt they (Freddie included) wanted to make the most of the rather dire situation.
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« Reply #560 on: August 06, 2017, 02:00:41 PM »

Was It All Worth It from The Miracle would been a nice swan song if Innuendo didnt exist.

That's a really good point. Obviously "The Show Must Go On" ends up being similarly great in its place as the actual closer (assuming you don't count Made In Heaven as a proper finale, but a posthumous collection). But yeah, "Was It All Worth It" would have been great, too. I wonder if that was intentional. Unless I'm mistaken, Freddie knew he had AIDS before The Miracle. So maybe they were thinking that way? (I hope you don't think it's crass to consider that viewpoint. But Queen were business-savvy, legacy-savvy to some degree, and absolutely had an eye for drama. I wouldn't put it past them, and that's no insult.)

Almost makes a person hope "Summer's Gone" can become "Was It All Worth It"...

Yeah, Freddie knew he was sick my then, which is why they didnt tour to promote The Miracle.

You never know.  With knowing Freddie had limited time, they could have written Was It All Worth it just in case The Miracle was their last album.

And, thats pretty much how I view Made in Heaven, more of a posthumous collection than a proper album, especially since Brian, Roger, and John had to "Queenify" some Freddie and Roger solo songs to pad out the album.
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