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« Reply #350 on: May 23, 2017, 10:53:14 PM »

https://www.amazon.com/Volumes-One-Two-OLD-DOGS/dp/B06XSJNZS4/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1495605053&sr=1-8

what a great idea to re-release these on one album! 
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« Reply #351 on: May 26, 2017, 11:30:03 AM »



Do you know this?


Old Dogs - 1 of 5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN1YTcLQdBM

2/5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdvcRLQwgts

3/5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOgjpX9Cjoo

4/5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GfGBDs6rWs

5/5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJNPxOkUG5Y
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« Reply #352 on: May 27, 2017, 03:03:46 PM »

listening to kane brown now, pretty good, nice 'new' country
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« Reply #353 on: May 27, 2017, 09:17:05 PM »


ahhh yeah! isn't that all wonderful? these guys are so fun together.
I miss Waylon.
I remember years ago trying to get the VHS of the original performance of
the first 'old dogs' album, but could never trace a copy down, pre internet then.
it was on youtube in a very bad copy, but seems to have been removed, but
I remember it was all 4 of them, sitting on stools I think, singing to an audience.
it was kind of 'staged' as if they were doing a tv show from memory, but I never
was able to get a copy of the video.
the Old Dogs were great!
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« Reply #354 on: June 15, 2017, 02:35:13 PM »

If you are a petitition guy:


Induct Jerry Lee Lewis into the Country Music Hall of Fame

https://www.gopetition.com/petitions/induct-jerry-lee-lewis-into-the-country-music-hall-of-fame.html

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« Reply #355 on: June 15, 2017, 07:06:21 PM »

GEEEZ!!! How can Jerry NOT already be in the CMHF??
that's a joke. Huh
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« Reply #356 on: June 21, 2017, 12:41:31 PM »

Flashback: See Tammy Wynette, Brian Wilson Harmonize on 'In My Room'

Posthumously released performance features fragile country icon with Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys on the band's 1963 classic

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/videos/brian-wilson-in-my-room-see-him-sing-with-tammy-wynette-w488838



It's always kinda chilling to me what a great album/project this could've been... and then seeing or hearing the result  Undecided
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« Reply #357 on: June 21, 2017, 07:10:26 PM »

it's pretty cool to see how Brian Wilson and Tammy Wynette could
even be in the same room together, and yet record a song together.
it just shows how much Brian's tunes have an effect on all cultures
of music, even 'country'.  it's such a heartbreaking recording where
two different worlds collide, but both have experienced the same
torture.  now only if 'stars and stripes' followed more in this path
it would probably have more love from the fans.
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« Reply #358 on: June 22, 2017, 08:03:55 AM »

it's pretty cool to see how Brian Wilson and Tammy Wynette could
even be in the same room together, and yet record a song together.
it just shows how much Brian's tunes have an effect on all cultures
of music, even 'country'.  it's such a heartbreaking recording where
two different worlds collide, but both have experienced the same
torture.  now only if 'stars and stripes' followed more in this path
it would probably have more love from the fans.



I think the problem was the choice of material and the choice of country artists. Regarding the latter, they obviously did go with what was current after they had Willie so they could rush out the album (maybe not littary but you know what I mean). If only they got to the real big country stars and had put a little thought into the song choices; in fact there were some names floating around and iirc Al recorded the accoustic "California saga" as a demo for Merle Haggard (it really does sound like Hag's style). I posted this more than once but here's a setlist I came up with:



California saga - Merle Haggard
Let the wind blow - Johnny Cash
God only knows - George Jones
Got to know the woman - Jerry Lee Lewis
Forever - Kris Kristofferson
Honkin' down the highway (like the version on "Caroline Now!) - Bobby Bare
The Trader - Waylon Jennings

Add to that Glenn Campbell (why was he not on vol. 1? I think a participation from him should've been a given). Maybe someone could take "Hold on dear brother" or "We got love".

While looking through some old postings I saw that someone mentioned Ronnie Milsap was considered for "Surfer girl" and Steve Earle for "Shut down", while Hank jr.'s and The Oak Ridge Boys' names were also floating around.
But you see it would've taken work, making sure that you actually get a country sound and arrangements. That didn't happen on Vol 1. And songs like "Shut down" probably wouldn't have worked very well. But maybe Jerry Reed could have worked up something.
I can hear most of the performances of my list in my head. You just need someone who actually knows a little about country music (I'm not tooting my own horn) and the Beach Boys to get a interesting list. Conncections were there: Around this time Don Was was producing both the Highwaymen's last (and best) album and Waylon Jennings' "Waymore's blues Part II" and also he was working with Jerry Lee Lewis on the Killer's "Young blood" album.
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« Reply #359 on: June 25, 2017, 11:46:57 PM »

it's pretty cool to see how Brian Wilson and Tammy Wynette could
even be in the same room together, and yet record a song together.
it just shows how much Brian's tunes have an effect on all cultures
of music, even 'country'.  it's such a heartbreaking recording where
two different worlds collide, but both have experienced the same
torture.  now only if 'stars and stripes' followed more in this path
it would probably have more love from the fans.



I think the problem was the choice of material and the choice of country artists. Regarding the latter, they obviously did go with what was current after they had Willie so they could rush out the album (maybe not littary but you know what I mean). If only they got to the real big country stars and had put a little thought into the song choices; in fact there were some names floating around and iirc Al recorded the accoustic "California saga" as a demo for Merle Haggard (it really does sound like Hag's style). I posted this more than once but here's a setlist I came up with:



California saga - Merle Haggard
Let the wind blow - Johnny Cash
God only knows - George Jones
Got to know the woman - Jerry Lee Lewis
Forever - Kris Kristofferson
Honkin' down the highway (like the version on "Caroline Now!) - Bobby Bare
The Trader - Waylon Jennings

Add to that Glenn Campbell (why was he not on vol. 1? I think a participation from him should've been a given). Maybe someone could take "Hold on dear brother" or "We got love".

While looking through some old postings I saw that someone mentioned Ronnie Milsap was considered for "Surfer girl" and Steve Earle for "Shut down", while Hank jr.'s and The Oak Ridge Boys' names were also floating around.
But you see it would've taken work, making sure that you actually get a country sound and arrangements. That didn't happen on Vol 1. And songs like "Shut down" probably wouldn't have worked very well. But maybe Jerry Reed could have worked up something.
I can hear most of the performances of my list in my head. You just need someone who actually knows a little about country music (I'm not tooting my own horn) and the Beach Boys to get a interesting list. Conncections were there: Around this time Don Was was producing both the Highwaymen's last (and best) album and Waylon Jennings' "Waymore's blues Part II" and also he was working with Jerry Lee Lewis on the Killer's "Young blood" album.


Yes Yes! 100 percent agree!  Most of the artists used were pretty mediocre at best. 
I got to like some of Toby's stuff years later, but this is terrible seeing him demolish 'be true to your school'.
You mention 'waymore's blues part II', that's one of my favourite Waylon albums, and a return to RCA.
You are right, imagine if they could have had Glen, Johnny (I could see him doin 'til I die'), probably too morbid
for what they were going for, Jerry Lee, Merle, George Jones was always great with a humourous song, he would
have been a better choice for 'long tall texan' or a cat like Buck Owens.
Then you have some other greats like Bobby Bare, Alan Jackson, Marty Stuart, George Strait and i'll go as far
to say even Garth Brooks, who has a great way of interpreting material...
yeah wow, Hank Jr! that could have been phenomenal or a land mine haha
I even thought about Charlie Rich, but he had just passed on, such a shame losing that guy.

The idea was certainly there, but it just didn't quite hit the mark... I still give it a blast now and then  Undecided
 
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« Reply #360 on: June 26, 2017, 01:17:50 PM »

it's pretty cool to see how Brian Wilson and Tammy Wynette could
even be in the same room together, and yet record a song together.
it just shows how much Brian's tunes have an effect on all cultures
of music, even 'country'.  it's such a heartbreaking recording where
two different worlds collide, but both have experienced the same
torture.  now only if 'stars and stripes' followed more in this path
it would probably have more love from the fans.



I think the problem was the choice of material and the choice of country artists. Regarding the latter, they obviously did go with what was current after they had Willie so they could rush out the album (maybe not littary but you know what I mean). If only they got to the real big country stars and had put a little thought into the song choices; in fact there were some names floating around and iirc Al recorded the accoustic "California saga" as a demo for Merle Haggard (it really does sound like Hag's style). I posted this more than once but here's a setlist I came up with:



California saga - Merle Haggard
Let the wind blow - Johnny Cash
God only knows - George Jones
Got to know the woman - Jerry Lee Lewis
Forever - Kris Kristofferson
Honkin' down the highway (like the version on "Caroline Now!) - Bobby Bare
The Trader - Waylon Jennings

Add to that Glenn Campbell (why was he not on vol. 1? I think a participation from him should've been a given). Maybe someone could take "Hold on dear brother" or "We got love".

While looking through some old postings I saw that someone mentioned Ronnie Milsap was considered for "Surfer girl" and Steve Earle for "Shut down", while Hank jr.'s and The Oak Ridge Boys' names were also floating around.
But you see it would've taken work, making sure that you actually get a country sound and arrangements. That didn't happen on Vol 1. And songs like "Shut down" probably wouldn't have worked very well. But maybe Jerry Reed could have worked up something.
I can hear most of the performances of my list in my head. You just need someone who actually knows a little about country music (I'm not tooting my own horn) and the Beach Boys to get a interesting list. Conncections were there: Around this time Don Was was producing both the Highwaymen's last (and best) album and Waylon Jennings' "Waymore's blues Part II" and also he was working with Jerry Lee Lewis on the Killer's "Young blood" album.


Yes Yes! 100 percent agree!  Most of the artists used were pretty mediocre at best.  
I got to like some of Toby's stuff years later, but this is terrible seeing him demolish 'be true to your school'.
You mention 'waymore's blues part II', that's one of my favourite Waylon albums, and a return to RCA.
You are right, imagine if they could have had Glen, Johnny (I could see him doin 'til I die'), probably too morbid
for what they were going for, Jerry Lee, Merle, George Jones was always great with a humourous song, he would
have been a better choice for 'long tall texan' or a cat like Buck Owens.
Then you have some other greats like Bobby Bare, Alan Jackson, Marty Stuart, George Strait and i'll go as far
to say even Garth Brooks, who has a great way of interpreting material...
yeah wow, Hank Jr! that could have been phenomenal or a land mine haha
I even thought about Charlie Rich, but he had just passed on, such a shame losing that guy.

The idea was certainly there, but it just didn't quite hit the mark... I still give it a blast now and then  Undecided
 



I got to correct myself. It wasn't Don Was working on the Killer's Young Blood album but Andy Paley. But that takes nothing away from the point I was making. But sorry for the mis-info.

I kinda like Doug Supernaw on "Long tall texan". But yeah, if I'd have to choose between him and Buck Owens, I'd go with the latter. George Jones in my head is reserved for God Only Knows. Man, what he could've done with that song.....  Love
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« Reply #361 on: June 26, 2017, 07:05:05 PM »

ahhh Andy Paley, I didn't know that.  I've got Jerry's 'Youngblood' album.
havn't heard it in years! I remember it being hard to track down, but finally
found a copy.  Guess it wasn't a huge seller  Undecided
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« Reply #362 on: July 14, 2017, 09:42:09 AM »

Loretta Lynn: ‘Willie Ain’t Dead Yet and Neither Am I’
Country legend postpones album until next year, cancels tour dates as she recovers from May stroke

http://www.rollingstone.com/country/news/loretta-lynn-postpones-release-of-new-album-w491954
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