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« Reply #150 on: February 19, 2012, 03:24:03 PM »

I've got the perfect album title and cover concept Cheesy:

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« Reply #151 on: February 19, 2012, 04:43:53 PM »

How about something that has nothing to do with the ocean? that would be something. but I doubt it.
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« Reply #152 on: February 19, 2012, 05:58:31 PM »

They are such an iconic group they could probably get away without their name on the front cover. We here are not keen on the 'Beach' aspect and 'Boys'?  Wink

Last week group shots were done according to David himself. I hope these are for inside or maybe the back rather than the cover.



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« Reply #153 on: February 19, 2012, 06:29:19 PM »

They are such an iconic group they could probably get away without their name on the front cover. We here are not keen on the 'Beach' aspect and 'Boys'?  Wink

Last week group shots were done according to David himself. I hope these are for inside or maybe the back rather than the cover.




Let's see here. We are fans of this band, yet it sounds like we are ashamed of their name (no name on the cover), their age (no picture of the band), and maybe don't try to sound like The Beach Boys, because from since 1978 The Beach Boys tried too hard to sound like The Beach Boys (from another thread, here). sh*t, these guys don't stand a chance of pleasing us, their die-hard fans. Yikes! Wink
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« Reply #154 on: February 19, 2012, 07:48:02 PM »

The Five-O suggestion isn't bad.  Unless it's really clever, it's probably better to stay away fron ocean and beach references, and please no titles like reunion or celebration.  My favorite title that's been tossed around is The Fading Rock Group Revival.   
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« Reply #155 on: February 19, 2012, 09:08:13 PM »

Please close this thread, Phil say's it is not coming out.
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« Reply #156 on: February 19, 2012, 10:16:44 PM »

Please close this thread, Phil say's it is not coming out.
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« Reply #157 on: February 20, 2012, 12:14:12 AM »

Please close this thread, Phil say's it is not coming out.
Huh?

haha, that's just a joke

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« Reply #158 on: February 20, 2012, 12:54:59 AM »

They are such an iconic group they could probably get away without their name on the front cover. We here are not keen on the 'Beach' aspect and 'Boys'?  Wink

Last week group shots were done according to David himself. I hope these are for inside or maybe the back rather than the cover.




Let's see here. We are fans of this band, yet it sounds like we are ashamed of their name (no name on the cover), their age (no picture of the band), and maybe don't try to sound like The Beach Boys, because from since 1978 The Beach Boys tried too hard to sound like The Beach Boys (from another thread, here). sh*t, these guys don't stand a chance of pleasing us, their die-hard fans. Yikes! Wink


Not at all. Its just that group cover ohoto's seem so dated and old fashioned. Shall we haul a Woody up to Paradise Cove for ya? LOL

                                                                                           
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« Reply #159 on: February 20, 2012, 04:21:47 AM »

Given Brian's run of albums since BWPS I think a great album is well within their grasp. Really at the moment we know zip about the new material. I'll not bother speculating on what might be from the info given so far in interviews. My personal preference would be that it's all new Brian Wilson compositions in collaboration with whoever he chooses and if other band member material is included it is because it merits inclusion. No remakes or finishing tracks by Dennis or Carl . All new stuff please boys.

Brian has had a good run of albums since BWPS...let us not forget the Christmas record too...in addition to the aforementioned TLOS, Gershwin and Disney. A run of albums which are all coherent, fairly consistent in quality and each of which has at least one standout track.

Given that we know Mike has some unreleased songs he's been working on for a while, there is no reason why the guys together cannot produce a high quality album. As for Mike referencing one Brian song that is supposedly great....Take a look at the better work on TLOS and you will possibly agree with me that Brian still has it within him to come up with stunning melodies and harmonies.

Mike is being pretty magnanimous these days, opening 'his' band to bring in half of Brian's...talking openly about playing SMiLE tracks on the tour....this could just be a perfect storm brewing for one last really good (if not great) BB record.
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« Reply #160 on: February 20, 2012, 04:55:42 AM »

The mystery remains, however, why Scott would say that he had flown in Bob's bassline from a live show. I mean, why not from a demo, then? Or if there were "personnel issues," why even bring it up at all?

Sorry, I missed the "live" part of the aforementioned quote.  Alright, you make good points.  A few other points worth mentioning: he also said there was a click track present...it would've been easy enough for the players in the live band to have been given an in-ear monitor feed with the click track for live performances, hence it would make sense to start a partial (mostly) studio re-recording with the same click track (and bass part, as it were).  As to why Bob's bass wasn't used on the track "Southern California":  the studio version was longer than the live version, with the added bridge, so it had to be redone by Scott (or Scott had a longer studio demo in the can from which his bass was flown in). 

As to why there was no mentiion of the location of the live performance recording: well, if you look at the studio credits in the liner notes, they only appear after the assistant engineers' names (i.e. "Aaron Walk and Paul Smith at Capitol and Kevin Mills at Henson);  Mark Linett is credited as the "over all" engineer, which implies there could've been other recording locations for which Mark was the sole engineer, but there was no need to mention them since there were no other engineers involved (even though it's likely that he would have an assistant or two for all sessions and including the live recordings, and it still doesn't explain why Scott wasn't given a credit along the lines of "Additional engineering" or "Demo engineering").  But a better reason might simply be due to oversight (in the course of my research, I've discovered there were a few times in the BB's career where a studio or two was left out of the liner notes, such as on the "L.A. Light Album" for instance). 

As to why the drums had to be re-recorded for the album:  during the recording of the live performance, the drums were mic'd (had to be, since they were real acoustic drums, not the electronic kind), so naturaully there would be a fair amount of leakage from other sources (the audience, the rest of the band), particularly in the overhead mics.  Eliminating that problem required the tracking of new drum performances in the studio.  The live bass, on the other hand, would have been recorded directly from a line out rather than with a microphone in front of the amp, hence no leakage.
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« Reply #161 on: February 20, 2012, 06:07:04 AM »

I've got the perfect album title and cover concept Cheesy:



Cracked me up! 

Very clever...

The "Five-0" might be protected...

But, not the wave!   Wink
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« Reply #162 on: February 20, 2012, 12:09:30 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems wierd to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley
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« Reply #163 on: February 20, 2012, 12:10:22 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.




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How's about that ?  LOL
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« Reply #164 on: February 20, 2012, 12:29:02 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems wierd to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley

Bassist Brett Simons' personal website lists the title as being "Celebration."
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« Reply #165 on: February 20, 2012, 12:40:12 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems wierd to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley

Bassist Brett Simons' personal website lists the title as being "Celebration."

Celebration was also the name of Mike's almost-fogotten band way back when, which did a few tracks for the Almost Summer soundtrack.
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« Reply #166 on: February 20, 2012, 01:21:40 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems wierd to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley

Bassist Brett Simons' personal website lists the title as being "Celebration."

Couldn't help but notice that Brett is rather busy on Tour with Melissa Etheridge and has a number of dates which conflicts with not only the preperation for the BB's Tour but also some BB's gig dates therefore;
1) Is there going to be a rotation of Bass Players on the tour ??
2) Who is playing Bass on the new album ?
or 3) Have the backing tracks already been laid down ??

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« Reply #167 on: February 20, 2012, 01:24:11 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems wierd to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley



And a rather enjoyable follow up album simply named 'Celebration' , always liked 'Starbaby' and the Cover of 'Gettin' Hungry'

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« Reply #168 on: February 20, 2012, 02:01:32 PM »

This 50th anniversary album is a sham: This is Brian's way of getting the guys to sing on his Pleasure Island album Wink
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« Reply #169 on: February 20, 2012, 07:08:50 PM »

I have no inside knowledge, but I have a gut feeling the new album will be called 'Celebration', for good or ill. It seems to be an appropriate Beach Boys brand name for the whole 50th anniversary tour/ album package. At least the title doesn't have 'Summer' in it.

I also hope they manage to find and include at least one quality 'new' Carl lead vocal (not Soul Searchin, already released), as it seems weird to me to have the Beach Boys without Carl (and Dennis for that matter) represented. But then, Summer in Paradise had no Brian input at all, so I guess for me, you can have the Beach Boys as long as you have at least one Wilson brother involved. Otherwise, it's a 'BB related' project.  Smiley

Bassist Brett Simons' personal website lists the title as being "Celebration."




On a scale of one to ten, ten being best. I would give the title "Celebration" about a four possibly five.
Just the way it grabs you, it's meaning, It certainly isn't a good title like Pet Sounds or Smile or Abbey Road or Band on the Run
Layla and other assorted love songs, it's not that good. It's kind of sterile sounding, not a lot of imagination.
At least it's not a terrible title. it's acceptable but not very good. IMO
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« Reply #170 on: February 20, 2012, 07:16:52 PM »

I really hope and pray that the boys don't use any kind of excessive pitch correction on the vocals for the new album, after listening however to Do it Again-Particularly Mikes main vocal- it's looking quite possible that may be the case.
I hope I'm wrong!
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« Reply #171 on: February 20, 2012, 08:34:01 PM »

If Brett is going to be on the road with Melissa Etheridge,  it would be the perfect oppurtuity to get Eddie Carter back into the BBs band.
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« Reply #172 on: February 20, 2012, 08:43:21 PM »

If Brett is going to be on the road with Melissa Etheridge,  it would be the perfect oppurtuity to get Eddie Carter back into the BBs band.

His website explicitly says he will be with her for February and March dates. The BBs start in April.
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« Reply #173 on: February 20, 2012, 09:36:47 PM »

I actually think Celebration is a good title too.  need a good cover though.  I wish the guy who did TLOS would do it
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« Reply #174 on: February 21, 2012, 12:30:18 AM »

1) Is there going to be a rotation of Bass Players on the tour ??
2) Who is playing Bass on the new album ?
or 3) Have the backing tracks already been laid down ??

1) yeah - Carol Kaye/James Jamerson/Carol Kaye/Bob Lizik/Carol Kaye. Carol will also be playing drums, guitar, keys, tannerin and mallets
2) see above.
3) Some have.
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