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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »

if anyone has this video please put on youtube, for history's sake!
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« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2015, 10:35:21 AM »

if anyone has this video please put on youtube, for history's sake!

Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3eD9KU7C0

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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2015, 10:46:23 AM »

you are amazing! thank you!
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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2015, 10:56:04 AM »

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

Just confirmed on 10452 that between June 29-July 4 Brian played with the BB's in Canada and Massachusetts, Mike being only at the 2 July 4 shows in the US. Per that site, the hotel tape was recorded July 2 in Montreal.  As others have posted, there were several dates missed in 1990 by Mike and/or  Al where Brian did not appear, and Carl indeed missed shows in late 1990 due to an appendectomy.
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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2015, 12:10:17 PM »

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

So typically, they didn’t call for Brian to fill in when one member was absent.

I think most of the corporate guidelines and/or tour riders at the time must have stipulated they had to have three BBs on stage. So I’m not sure why Brian “filled in” for either Al or Mike for a few gigs, unless specific shows/promoters wanted four BBs on stage.


Would be interested to know how this 'calling in' of other Beach Boys worked. Was there some sort of 'Surf Signal' deployed in the skies over the US (presumably over a background of the California state flag) when a fill-in member was needed?

Did Mike and Al send tidings on the astral plane to Brian that he was needed and Landy willingly had the big guy parachuted onto the scene?

Actually a Mike-less Beach Boys with an on-form Brian plus Carl and Al handling lead vocals might have been very good indeed.
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« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2015, 01:31:32 PM »

if anyone has this video please put on youtube, for history's sake!

Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3eD9KU7C0

Enjoy!

Thanks so much for the quick response! You are a credit to the community!
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« Reply #56 on: October 19, 2015, 01:34:55 PM »

if anyone has this video please put on youtube, for history's sake!

Here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3eD9KU7C0

Enjoy!

You're very welcome, I luckily saved it last time it was on youtube. Smiley

Thanks so much for the quick response! You are a credit to the community!

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« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2015, 01:40:36 PM »


Thanks for sharing! Beautiful stuff going on here with Bruce and Brian---gem footage!  Smokin
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« Reply #58 on: October 19, 2015, 02:03:21 PM »

If I remember correctly no one filled in for Michael on the 1990 dates he missed; Carl, Al, and Bruce just went out themselves with the usual backup members.

So typically, they didn’t call for Brian to fill in when one member was absent.

I think most of the corporate guidelines and/or tour riders at the time must have stipulated they had to have three BBs on stage. So I’m not sure why Brian “filled in” for either Al or Mike for a few gigs, unless specific shows/promoters wanted four BBs on stage.


Would be interested to know how this 'calling in' of other Beach Boys worked. Was there some sort of 'Surf Signal' deployed in the skies over the US (presumably over a background of the California state flag) when a fill-in member was needed?

Did Mike and Al send tidings on the astral plane to Brian that he was needed and Landy willingly had the big guy parachuted onto the scene?

Actually a Mike-less Beach Boys with an on-form Brian plus Carl and Al handling lead vocals might have been very good indeed.

After Dennis passed in 1983, obviously he was not replaced - not as a drummer but as a Beach Boy - by another "permanent" member such as a Bruce in the 1960's and a Blondie or Ricky in the 1970's. I always thought that, at that particular time, BRI took the position, "OK, we're going ahead as a foursome, but nothing less than four Beach Boys on stage." And, yes, I know Dennis missed a lot of shows in the late 70's/early 80's. Anyway, I thought that BRI still had some standards. That has changed and it appears that money is now the overriding priority.

That being said, BRI probably tried to adhere to their "minimum four Beach Boys on stage policy" and occasionally called in Brian or David or whoever to help out. It should not have been difficult to ask a band member to give adequate notice if they knew that they were going to miss a gig for whatever reason, medical emergency being the exception. All they had to do was notify management and have management make a few phone calls.

As a fan, I would be - and frequently was - disappointed when ANY Beach Boy was not present for a concert I attended, no matter if he was a favorite of mine, or not. That being said, we would probably be surprised at how many fans attending Beach Boys' concerts don't have a clue who they are seeing or hearing and wouldn't even know if a certain band member was absent.
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« Reply #59 on: October 19, 2015, 02:14:26 PM »

It’s another one of the weird things that was a byproduct of the BBs incessantly touring. Some bands would cancel or reschedule a gig if one of their lead vocalists was out. But the BBs didn’t. They had no problem doing gigs with three BBs on stage. They were doing it all the way back in 1982 when Carl was still gone and Dennis and Brian would both miss gigs. There were a few Wilson-less BB shows in 1982.

The recruitment of David Marks in 1997 was probably also not coincidental in this regard either, with the knowledge that Carl might be missing some shows and that Al could very well be on his way out. I think David even spoke to this to some degree in some interviews in the 1999-early 2000s timeframe.

By later 1998 and then 1999, I would guess Mike just had the license and there was no longer any “minimum” BB corporate rule. Who knows, maybe the current license requires at least two BBs on stage, I dunno. I would guess not.
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« Reply #60 on: October 19, 2015, 02:31:31 PM »

News coverage/review of one of the 2 shows they played on July 4th, '90 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jmUNTbGGJM
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« Reply #61 on: October 19, 2015, 02:56:37 PM »

News coverage/review of one of the 2 shows they played on July 4th, '90 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jmUNTbGGJM

Thanks for posting that. Brought back some great memories. First time I ever saw Brian.
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« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2015, 05:42:28 PM »

"Surf Signal." Awesome.

Thanks for the upload!
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« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2016, 05:31:03 AM »

Here's a cool photo John Stamos posted on Instagram:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BFnSplPih0t/?taken-by=johnstamos

Time to make some new cover art for The Hotel Tapes!
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« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2016, 07:28:56 AM »

One of my favorite parts of this video is Bruce continually trying to show Brian his "new arrangement" for "Caroline, No" and Brian ignoring him. Not a dig on Bruce, the little arrangement bit is actually nice.

I also recall that Foskett seems to be glued to Brian. I wonder if Foskett knew he was a few days away from leaving the band, and may have wondered if this was his last chance at an experience like this.
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« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2016, 06:58:57 AM »

here is all 70 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYD4sn3pGo&list=PLvRRaqL2VXRW0thssBiUW42RTaoZJTVNe
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« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2016, 08:28:00 AM »

It was 1981 when Carl was taking a sabbatical from the group. He returned in '82. I don't know if there were any shows the Boys performed without any Wilsons in the '80's .I think there was a clause in their contract stating one Wilson had to be present , at least while Carl was still alive. There were times in '81 when both Brian and Dennis would leave the stage during a song (Lady Lynda) and leave them "Wilsonless" for a bit. Thus fulfilling Mike's private fantasy.
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« Reply #67 on: May 21, 2016, 09:23:59 AM »


Wow! Thanks so much for that, Tim.
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« Reply #68 on: May 21, 2016, 10:35:31 AM »

My new favorite "Brianism" is from that tape. At one point Brian can be heard saying "Once you give up masturbating your muscles really start to go".  Grin
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« Reply #69 on: May 21, 2016, 01:52:00 PM »

LOL
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« Reply #70 on: May 24, 2016, 12:06:05 AM »

Here's a cool photo John Stamos posted on Instagram:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BFnSplPih0t/?taken-by=johnstamos

Time to make some new cover art for The Hotel Tapes!

A brilliant photo. I wonder if there are anymore from this jam'? If the Hotel Tapes ever got official release, they should use that photo defiantly.
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« Reply #71 on: May 24, 2016, 12:07:08 AM »

... Or footage....
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« Reply #72 on: May 24, 2016, 01:11:27 AM »

it was actually Bruce who made the quip about masturbating.

I have the full 1hr 10 mins of this on a dvd (also have Brian's performance at the Handlery Hotel from later that month). Been trying to extract the files from the dvd onto my laptop but that's proving to be kind of problematic.

All this footage is easily obtainable (for a price) online.
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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2016, 02:54:22 PM »

Footage (for those who ain't seen it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx3eD9KU7C0
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« Reply #74 on: June 07, 2016, 01:12:23 PM »

Would love to see the 70min version....but what's with Stamos not being able to keep his hands off JF.  He's all over the poor guy.
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