Stamos In Reunion

[anazgnos]

like someone else said, it would be like going to a Stones concert to hear David Hasselhoff. does not compute.

In what way? I concede that The Beach Boys and The Rolling Stones are both viewed as vaguely ridiculous live acts by some people but i would still say that The Rolling Stones have a very different reputation.

Over the years fans have had to witness the cheerleaders, Bruce in shorts (this would be worse than Stamos if repeated), Al's ponytail, Mike hitting on anyone and everyone, Brian unable to remember the words, Carl trying to dance, Dennis barely able to speak let alone sing etc. Plus you have 70 year-olds singing about growing up to be men and having fun, fun, fun with young girls. It's ludicrous whichever way you look at it.

Obviously I want the band to perform in as classy a way as possible but they are never going to be The Rolling Stones...

I really do hope they at least dress up for this tour.  I want to see "diginified, classy, well-dressed old dudes" be the look for the tour.  Even Mike has been looking almost sharp in his suit at some of the recent gala gig videos I've seen, so I know they can pull it off.  Just no more khakis and hawaiian shirts, please...

[Rocker]

Here's some food for thought, you want this (Stamos singing "Forever" while David Marks has to shut up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLbu62ZFO0


or this (8:39) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU8z3IuBuPM


I'd rather have the latter.......

[Aegir]

I don't get why casual fans would see the Beach Boys in concert. Tickets for Brian or Mike & Bruce cost like $90, I'm sure the reunion show will cost even more. Why would anyone want to pay that much money for a band they were not completely obsessed with?

I think Mike & Bruce tickets cost significantly less than that. Certainly when they've played the UK it's been closer to about $70 for good seats and $50 for bad ones (converting to US currency).

Well, I guess you can chalk that up to the exchange rate being so extreme, or things being cheaper in England, or something. I've paid for Mike & Bruce tickets twice, and they were both about $90. Once in a "performing arts center" and once in a casino theater.

[Nicko1234]

I disagree. Many people on this board seem to think that to the public this is just another Beach Boys concert. They don't. If tickets really sell that fast in Germany as it seems, they go because of the reunion/celebration factor. That's why the newspapers and music magazines write about it, why radio stations mention it (and who is member of the Beach Boys) and raffle tickets. Not because it's a Beach Boys concert but because it's THE Beach Boys. And they'll know who is part of the band and who isn't. Even if just for this one time. Look at how many headlines an appearance by Mike & Bruce (with that legendary name) or Brian made in the last years. Not too many....

I agree that the reunion element is a big thing. But I think that Brian being part of things is 95% of that.

I guess there is a good chance that Jeff will sing Don't Worry Baby, John will sing I Can Hear Music etc. so having one other non-Beach Boy singing a tune wouldn't bother people. Plus people who do their research will obviously expect David to be there playing guitar but as he didn't originally sing leads on any of the songs that will be performed, they may well not expect him to sing on the night.

[Wirestone]

ok. i'm willing to admit that some in the audience would rather hear Stamos more than Dave or even Brian. or at least watch Stamos shake his ass and play rockstar.

i'm also willing to say F*ck those people. they really shouldn't be there.

like someone else said, it would be like going to a Stones concert to hear David Hasselhoff. does not compute.

Thank you.

[filledeplage]

Here's some food for thought, you want this (Stamos singing "Forever" while David Marks has to shut up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLbu62ZFO0


or this (8:39) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU8z3IuBuPM


I'd rather have the latter.......

Rocker - interesting version you chose of Stamos doing Forever.  I saw that show in Staten Island, and heard all the laudatory commentary, including much attention from Mike Love, who described David as a "signatory" to the BB contract at 13.  

There is a version on YouTube which is nearing - a million hits...one version among several, that Stamos almost single handedly promoted while doing one of his many TV shows.  He is not a "one hit wonder."  944,000 hits to a song that was not that famous.  It was used as a separate video , and I think that he did a Forever video with the Disney cartoons and famous characters from Walt's artistry.  That is not on YouTube.  Likely a copyright issue.  He was promoting the Beach Boys work, for almost his whole career.  Slamming him, after all that promotion and his part in cultivating a new generation alongside other TV shows, is biased and unbalanced, in my view.  

Taking it out of context, so a reader could infer that David stood there twiddling his thumbs, is incendiary to the reader.   It was great to see David, whom I saw in 1971 at Symphony Hall, at a time when he was studying at Berklee, and Dennis saw him, in the lobby, inviting him onstage, to sing a song or two.  And, in 1997, when he filled in for Carl, when he was so sick.  He is a fabulous guitarist.  Really a talent.  In no way, was he marginalized by John Stamos.  If you had seen the entire concert, anyone would see that everyone had his time under the spotlight.  That clip does not fairly and adequately represent the show.

That song, Forever was the only "lead" that I remember John Stamos doing.  He just blended right in. Frankly, I'm happy to see him with the Boys, because John Cowsill gets out from behind his plexiglas screen to do Rhonda! His presence supports the others, like Cowsill who could not perform close to the audience.

Anytime I have seen Stamos, he has been appreciative of his luck in life, shown devotion to the BB music, and, very well received by the audience.  JMHO  

[Rocker]

filledeplage:
my comment was meant a little sarcastic. I'm sure David did more than we can see in this video. But still there's some truth in it and there's no excuse to let Stamos sing that song instead of David imo. I mean Stamos is the guy who did produce (?) An American Family !!

[SMiLE Brian]

The age of Stamos bringing new fans to the band has passed....

[filledeplage]

filledeplage:
my comment was meant a little sarcastic. I'm sure David did more than we can see in this video. But still there's some truth in it and there's no excuse to let Stamos sing that song instead of David imo. I mean Stamos is the guy who did produce (?) An American Family !!

Rocker - that is what this is about? OK.

But, you did not put that on the table.  

That muddies the waters.  

[drbeachboy]

It is really stupid to continue this thread. It seems no one is going to change the other's mind. The band is going to do want they want, as they should.

[Awesoman]

Here's some food for thought, you want this (Stamos singing "Forever" while David Marks has to shut up)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSLbu62ZFO0


or this (8:39) ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU8z3IuBuPM


I'd rather have the latter.......

Hey, I shot the latter!  Neat! 

[Justin]

It is really stupid to continue this thread. It seems no one is going to change the other's mind. The band is going to do want they want, as they should.

+1

[SMiLE Brian]

Last thoughts, Stamos will be there in some form for better or worse, but I will be there as well rocking out to the Beach Boys.

[Zach95]

I INTEND TO KEEP THIS THREAD GOING! 

STAMOS = 

[Mahalo]

We are not the ones keeping this alive...

The Beach Boys are. If I were John Stamos I would rock out too...but I'm not so I protest. 

[Pretty Funky]

WTF. He's in so we may as well build a bridge. If he reads here, I hope he takes some comments on-board and just blends in.

I'll cut him some slack and let him rock out during the encore but the rest of the time please be heard and not seen!

Leave that 'jesus' guy at home and (cough) 'break a leg' John (cough)! 

[Shady]

He's....just...so.....talented

[The Shift]

It is really stupid to continue this thread. It seems no one is going to change the other's mind. The band is going to do want they want, as they should.

+1

Well said - we should move on.

[Jonathan Blum]

This is a band which had Mr. T play drums for them at a high-profile gig.

You complainers don't know when you're well off...

:-),
Jon Blum

[SG7]

and Little Richard with Happy Endings

[Mikie]

..............and Julio Iglesias and La Toya Jackson with Surfer Girl!

[bossaroo]

Mr. T playing drums is preferable to John Stamos strapping on a guitar and rocking out. Why? because who could possibly take Mr. T seriously? it's funny and he's in on the joke.

with Stamos, it's funny for the opposite reason. he's trying to be taken seriously as a musician and appear as their equal or peer... when most everyone knows he's not. it's a little pathetic which rubs off on the band to some degree.

I know he has a history with the band. mostly with Mike, but whatever. It's a little hard to forgive the American Family fiasco... Brian was clearly ticked off at the way they portrayed him and for damn good reason. but Stamos obviously loves the music. I watched the Hotel tape for the first time, and he calls "This Whole World" Brian's greatest song. I just hope he has enough sense and respect to keep his participation to a minimum, if not at all.

[filledeplage]

Mr. T playing drums is preferable to John Stamos strapping on a guitar and rocking out. Why? because who could possibly take Mr. T seriously? it's funny and he's in on the joke.

with Stamos, it's funny for the opposite reason. he's trying to be taken seriously as a musician and appear as their equal or peer... when most everyone knows he's not. it's a little pathetic which rubs off on the band to some degree.

I know he has a history with the band. mostly with Mike, but whatever. It's a little hard to forgive the American Family fiasco... Brian was clearly ticked off at the way they portrayed him and for damn good reason. but Stamos obviously loves the music. I watched the Hotel tape for the first time, and he calls "This Whole World" Brian's greatest song. I just hope he has enough sense and respect to keep his participation to a minimum, if not at all.

Bossaroo - I noticed that you have looked at the Hotel video. I also notice that you say that it is "hard to forgive" with regard the movie, which has been debated ad nauseum. If, for whatever reasons, differences have been put aside, and I am not singling you out, although I'm responding to what your wrote, whether people could consider, at least the possibility that the Band, as "having moved beyond it" and are looking ahead, instead of the rear view mirror.  

Twelve or thirteen years ago, everyone was in a very different place, both after Carl's death, (still shocking after all this time) and the fact that three different members have formed their own bands, and have done individual composition work and touring.  If any of them ever wondered if they could make it individually, they now have that answer. I'm really proud of Brian after not having seen him as a fan for 20 years.  Some of you guys are really lucky to have seen Brian live, early in your time as a fan.  

To err is human and to forgive is Divine...if they have ironed out their differences to the extent that, one, Smile Session are released, and two, a Celebration Tour is in gear, is it possible to just step back and let it evolve and follow "their" lead of "fence mending" and do the same?

That photo of Brian and Mike embracing says it all. There is real, family love there.  

Just a thought...  

[Rocker]

filledeplage:
my comment was meant a little sarcastic. I'm sure David did more than we can see in this video. But still there's some truth in it and there's no excuse to let Stamos sing that song instead of David imo. I mean Stamos is the guy who did produce (?) An American Family !!

Rocker - that is what this is about? OK.

But, you did not put that on the table.  

That muddies the waters.  

You don't get what I mean. Look at the bigger picture. In one of my first posts in this thread I said the problem is - besides he's no Beach Boy and musically just average - what he represents. It's not one single event but everything. You don't want David Leaf on stage, do you ? Or - if he'd still be alive - Landy ?
I'll keep it at that. We'll just wait what happens in the next months. I'm hopeful that Stamos won't be on the european leg of the tour

[SMiLE Brian]

filledeplage:
my comment was meant a little sarcastic. I'm sure David did more than we can see in this video. But still there's some truth in it and there's no excuse to let Stamos sing that song instead of David imo. I mean Stamos is the guy who did produce (?) An American Family !!

Rocker - that is what this is about? OK.

But, you did not put that on the table.  

That muddies the waters.  

You don't get what I mean. Look at the bigger picture. In one of my first posts in this thread I said the problem is - besides he's no Beach Boy and musically just average - what he represents. It's not one single event but everything. You don't want David Leaf on stage, do you ? Or - if he'd still be alive - Landy ?
I'll keep it at that. We'll just wait what happens in the next months. I'm hopeful that Stamos won't be on the european leg of the tour

I doubt Stamos will be in Europe, I think he will just be at select high profile American shows.