Stamos In Reunion

[Mike's Beard]

This must be a real kick in the balls for Ricky and Blondie.

[Rocker]

Nothing against Stamos but I can't see his appearance is selling more tickets, it's not like he is Tom Cruise. He was one of the main actors of a cheesy 80s sitcom which I liked as a 5 year old and therefore is really more like a sitcom for children. As someone pointed out at Facebook: It's like the Stones touring with Hasselhoff. I liked John's version of "Forever", especially at Uncle Jesse's wedding but this just doesn't seem right. Do they really need him to sale tickets? This tour shouldn't really be about the money, it should be a celebration of the music.

And btw he performed outside of the US, Wembley 1993. I think they even recorded the SIP video there.

Don't fool yourself, it is always about the money. Even Brian said has much.

And the Beach Boys always have been some of the most money-grubbing sons-of-a-gun you can find

[tpesky]

I became a fan in the late 80's as a kid and Stamos or Full House had nothing to do with it! Granted I'm male but I've never actually heard anyone say they became interested in the Beach Boys because of Stamos and Full House! Maybe they enjoyed seeing them on there, but having that as a reason to go to a concert....I'm not so sure

Again, I'm not thrilled about him being there. It's not gonna make me not go. The problem is I can't just see him playing percussion which would be appropriate.  He'll be next to Mike with a guitar and Mike's gonna make him a center of attention and reference him on BTTYS and that's gonna cause any televised performance to focus on him!

[Wirestone]

I would assume on this tour he will mainly be a percussionist, but I'm sure he'll be up front for a few numbers.

Why - there'll be two drummers plus Nelson. Don't need another any more than they need another guitarist. Hopefully he'll only 'play' a very few gigs. Less than one would suit me just fine.

Andrew -- Has it actually been confirmed that all of Brian's band is coming on these shows? My assumption, and that's all it was, has been that a couple of members of the BW band wouldn't be included. In other words, Mikey would be subbed out by Cowsill. And it doesn't seem like Darian's scene, does it?

Would be thrilled to be wrong, but it would lead to some redundancy, no?

[Justin]

i'll take cheerleaders over Stamos anytime, anywhere.

I'll probably never understand that.

[drbeachboy]

i'll take cheerleaders over Stamos anytime, anywhere.

I'll probably never understand that.

It's called "Stamos Envy".

[Andrew G. Doe]

I would assume on this tour he will mainly be a percussionist, but I'm sure he'll be up front for a few numbers.

Why - there'll be two drummers plus Nelson. Don't need another any more than they need another guitarist. Hopefully he'll only 'play' a very few gigs. Less than one would suit me just fine.

Andrew -- Has it actually been confirmed that all of Brian's band is coming on these shows? My assumption, and that's all it was, has been that a couple of members of the BW band wouldn't be included. In other words, Mikey would be subbed out by Cowsill. And it doesn't seem like Darian's scene, does it?

Would be thrilled to be wrong, but it would lead to some redundancy, no?

I'm a tad confused - my initial reading of the reports was Brian's band plus Scott T & John C... but now I'm not so sure. I think I need to ask the legendary "someone who would know". 

[Mikie]

I thought it was pretty much all of the guys in the Do It Again video and Dave Marks doing the 50th shows.

[drbeachboy]

I thought it was pretty much all of the guys in the Do It Again video and Dave Marks doing the 50th shows.

I can see that for the studio album, but does that equate to the touring band? The touring band could be whole other animal.

[Mikie]

I just now saw this and cracked up!!  

"'Xactly. Beginning to look like business as usual at BRI: you can visualise them sitting around the table and thinking, "How can we really f*ck this up before a note is played?", then looking at each other and saying as one, "Stamos !"

Good 'un, Mr. Doe!     Ah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!   

[Wirestone]

The full-on Stamos would make me reconsider going to a reunion show. Seriously.

The inclusion of this guy suggests an approach to the reunion that's more commercial than artistic, more crowd-pleasing than ear-pleasing, and more about Mike's vision of the band than Brian's.

And that's okay! I don't begrudge anyone enjoying that sort of thing. I might even enjoy it if I'm in the right mood. But it's certainly not what I would have hoped for from the reunion shows. And it's therefore my right -- and everyone else's -- to not go if it seems like something we'll hate.

[drbeachboy]

The full-on Stamos would make me reconsider going to a reunion show. Seriously.

The inclusion of this guy suggests an approach to the reunion that's more commercial than artistic, more crowd-pleasing than ear-pleasing, and more about Mike's vision of the band than Brian's.

And that's okay! I don't begrudge anyone enjoying that sort of thing. I might even enjoy it if I'm in the right mood. But it's certainly not what I would have hoped for from the reunion shows. And it's therefore my right -- and everyone else's -- to not go if it seems like something we'll hate.

I want a concert band when I attend a concert. Except for the Smile Tour, I could have stayed home and listened to the records instead of hearing Brian's band.

[SMiLE Brian]

If Stamos is there the whole time, might as well have the bamd wear the striped shirts and khaki pants.

[Mikie]

NOTHING will stop me from going to one (or two) reunion shows. NOTHING. Unless I'm shot on a street corner, get in a bad car wreck on the way to the gig, I'm laid out on my death bed dying from cancer, or Brian, Al, and David cancel out and are no-shows.

[drbeachboy]

If Stamos is there the whole time, might as well have the bamd wear the striped shirts and khaki pants.

Well, the music from that era will be 80% of the show, so why not?

[SMiLE Brian]

If Stamos is there the whole time, might as well have the bamd wear the striped shirts and khaki pants.

Well, the music from that era will be 80% of the show, so why not?

Stamos has to wear the white suits from 1968 or Mike's 1970s stagewear.

[drbeachboy]

If Stamos is there the whole time, might as well have the bamd wear the striped shirts and khaki pants.

Well, the music from that era will be 80% of the show, so why not?

Stamos has to wear the white suits from 1968 or Mike's 1970s stagewear.

I wanna see the Turban, baby!

[The Shift]

NOTHING will stop me from going to one (or two) reunion shows. NOTHING. Unless I'm shot on a street corner, get in a bad car wreck on the way to the gig, I'm laid out on my death bed dying from cancer, or Brian, Al, and David cancel out and are no-shows.

Hey, didn't you forget someone, or some-two… 

[metal flake paint]

Did Stamos ever play a show outside of the US with the boys ? Since I'm going to Berlin, I hope he won't be there. It's not against him as a person or drummer, but like others said he represents all that cheesiness and that should be forgotten. Every time he is part of a show they act like it's the biggest thing in the world but let's be honest, even he is a somewhat "part of a time long gone" and nothing more but a novelty.
And I wouldn't want him to do "Forever" when there's Brian and David on stage. Don't let this last chande the Beach Boys will ever have become such a cheesy, freaky show. Before adding some non-Beach Boy, get Blondie and Ricky

Stamos was present when I saw The Beach Boys play at Olympic Park, Melbourne, Australia in 1992. Referring to my contemporaneous notes, I noted that he was an unwelcome distraction and that Carl seemed to get increasingly annoyed by him as the concert progressed.

[Wirestone]

The full-on Stamos would make me reconsider going to a reunion show. Seriously.

The inclusion of this guy suggests an approach to the reunion that's more commercial than artistic, more crowd-pleasing than ear-pleasing, and more about Mike's vision of the band than Brian's.

And that's okay! I don't begrudge anyone enjoying that sort of thing. I might even enjoy it if I'm in the right mood. But it's certainly not what I would have hoped for from the reunion shows. And it's therefore my right -- and everyone else's -- to not go if it seems like something we'll hate.

I want a concert band when I attend a concert. Except for the Smile Tour, I could have stayed home and listened to the records instead of hearing Brian's band.

I have to say, this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Why see any music live, then? Why would you go see a symphony orchestra, when there are so many CDs of the music played perfectly? It's not like most conductors or orchestras actually dance around or shoot confetti cannons.

The point is, live music is its own justification. Some people like it with a lot of showmanship, some don't. I mean, I've enjoyed the Flaming Lips shows I've attended, but they've made that showmanship an integral part of their shows. Brian's band performs in the orchestral tradition -- it's not about onstage tomfoolery, it's about making cool vibrations in the air. It makes its own case.

Adding John Stamos -- a wanna-be rock star and washed-up actor -- to the entirety of a tour does not count as showmanship. It's not creating a touring band. It's simply dumb.

[drbeachboy]

Did Stamos ever play a show outside of the US with the boys ? Since I'm going to Berlin, I hope he won't be there. It's not against him as a person or drummer, but like others said he represents all that cheesiness and that should be forgotten. Every time he is part of a show they act like it's the biggest thing in the world but let's be honest, even he is a somewhat "part of a time long gone" and nothing more but a novelty.
And I wouldn't want him to do "Forever" when there's Brian and David on stage. Don't let this last chande the Beach Boys will ever have become such a cheesy, freaky show. Before adding some non-Beach Boy, get Blondie and Ricky

Stamos was present when I saw The Beach Boys play at Olympic Park, Melbourne, Australia in 1992. Referring to my contemporaneous notes, I noted that he was an unwelcome distraction and that Carl seemed to get increasingly annoyed by him as the concert progressed.

Did Carl give him "That Look"? That was always the best way to tell with Carl.

[The Shift]

Here's a thought - what if Stamos is up there on Feb 12, receiving the honorary Grammy with Brian, Mike, Al, Dave & Bruce?

Just a thought! 

[Mikie]

NOTHING will stop me from going to one (or two) reunion shows. NOTHING. Unless I'm shot on a street corner, get in a bad car wreck on the way to the gig, I'm laid out on my death bed dying from cancer, or Brian, Al, and David cancel out and are no-shows.

Hey, didn't you forget someone, or some-two… 

No I didn't!   No Mike and Bruce shows for me!   It's all or nuthin', baby!  

[drbeachboy]

The full-on Stamos would make me reconsider going to a reunion show. Seriously.

The inclusion of this guy suggests an approach to the reunion that's more commercial than artistic, more crowd-pleasing than ear-pleasing, and more about Mike's vision of the band than Brian's.

And that's okay! I don't begrudge anyone enjoying that sort of thing. I might even enjoy it if I'm in the right mood. But it's certainly not what I would have hoped for from the reunion shows. And it's therefore my right -- and everyone else's -- to not go if it seems like something we'll hate.

I want a concert band when I attend a concert. Except for the Smile Tour, I could have stayed home and listened to the records instead of hearing Brian's band.

I have to say, this doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Why see any music live, then? Why would you go see a symphony orchestra, when there are so many CDs of the music played perfectly? It's not like most conductors or orchestras actually dance around or shoot confetti cannons.

The point is, live music is its own justification. Some people like it with a lot of showmanship, some don't. I mean, I've enjoyed the Flaming Lips shows I've attended, but they've made that showmanship an integral part of their shows. Brian's band performs in the orchestral tradition -- it's not about onstage tomfoolery, it's about making cool vibrations in the air. It makes its own case.

Adding John Stamos -- a wanna-be rock star and washed-up actor -- to the entirety of a tour does not count as showmanship. It's not creating a touring band. It's simply dumb.

Because rock concerts are supposed to rock and have energy. Brian's band is too clean. They sound almost as good as the record. They are almost too good. I don't care about Stamos. His presence will not be the difference whether it is a good show or not.

[drbeachboy]

Here's a thought - what if Stamos is up there on Feb 12, receiving the honorary Grammy with Brian, Mike, Al, Dave & Bruce?

Just a thought! 

Now that would be just wrong. That ain't happening, no way.