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« on: January 04, 2012, 10:26:46 AM »

Love the boxset and the sessionography is terrific. Is there anything significant that didn't make the boxset?
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 02:10:43 PM »

Other than actual Brian mixes and non-fly in Barnyard, all the bases appear to have been covered.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 03:21:39 PM »

They didn't include for me the most fantastic Brian edit from the Smile sessions.  The edit was included in Sea of Tunes boot.  Namely, the Brian/Mike duet vocal of the 1st two verses followed by the barbershop vocals over the H&V backing track.  They did include an edit of the 3rd verse followed by the vocals/backing track. 
However, it is no where near the perfection of the unreleased piece.

Still can't believe they didn't include it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 03:57:44 PM »

They didn't include for me the most fantastic Brian edit from the Smile sessions.  The edit was included in Sea of Tunes boot.  Namely, the Brian/Mike duet vocal of the 1st two verses followed by the barbershop vocals over the H&V backing track.  They did include an edit of the 3rd verse followed by the vocals/backing track. 
However, it is no where near the perfection of the unreleased piece.

Where is it? SOT Vol. 17, Disk 1, which track from 1-19?
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 04:01:28 PM »

The Brian/Mike duet vocal rocks! Rock!
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 04:47:09 PM »

Here's a version of H&V that is beyond fantastic.  Throw in the 3rd verse, the chorus and false barnyard and you have the defintive Heroes and Villians.

Just listen to the 1st 1 1/2 that mirrors the cantina version.  Absolute perfection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgVxHVc2XZM

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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 05:28:21 PM »

I've heard that 457 times.  What SOT track are you talking about that wasn't included in the new Smile box?
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 05:30:42 PM »

They didn't include for me the most fantastic Brian edit from the Smile sessions.  The edit was included in Sea of Tunes boot.  Namely, the Brian/Mike duet vocal of the 1st two verses followed by the barbershop vocals over the H&V backing track.  They did include an edit of the 3rd verse followed by the vocals/backing track. 
However, it is no where near the perfection of the unreleased piece.

Still can't believe they didn't include it.

massively intrigued, any info? would love to locate/hear this?
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 05:51:34 PM »

They didn't include for me the most fantastic Brian edit from the Smile sessions.  The edit was included in Sea of Tunes boot.  Namely, the Brian/Mike duet vocal of the 1st two verses followed by the barbershop vocals over the H&V backing track.  They did include an edit of the 3rd verse followed by the vocals/backing track. 
However, it is no where near the perfection of the unreleased piece.

Still can't believe they didn't include it.

massively intrigued, any info? would love to locate/hear this?

Let me dig out my SOT copies and figure out what he's talking about.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 06:54:39 PM »

The first minute of the youtube mix up to the cantina section is an orginal Brian mix which was on the Sea of Tunes boot.

I'll also dig up my copy to see exactly where it was.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 07:19:54 PM »

The first minute of the youtube mix up to the cantina section is an orginal Brian mix which was on the Sea of Tunes boot.

I'll also dig up my copy to see exactly where it was.

The mix you claim is missing, the first verse, that's on the box set under the title Heroes and Villains: Early Version Track 24 CD 4, is it not (among other sections as well)? Or am I missing something.  That mix (with that verse) is also on the GV box set.  On the Unsurpassed Masters boot the barbershop vocals/duet is tracks 4-7 (the takes).  The "mix" is track 15.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 11:00:36 PM »

Yes a decent mix?
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2012, 08:44:16 AM »

So..............are we saying that the version of Heroes & Villains (which can be heard on SOT 17, Disk 1, track 15) wasn't included in the SMiLE box?  And that version is included on previous legit releases?  Just want to be clear here.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2012, 10:14:35 AM »

Yes and No.  I was wrong and went back to listen to it again.  It's track 14 on the Sea of Tunes boot.  This is indeed missing in the BB's vault.  The mixes go as follows:
A.  The Brian/Mike duet of the 1st two verses followed by a snippet of the H&V chorus.  Take is rewound into
B.  Mike singins the line "Bullets that eventually let her down" followed by the Brian/Mike duet of the 3rd verse of "At 3 score and five" followed be a snippet of the H&V chorus.  The tape is then rewound into a
C. A brief vocal only snippet of Brian/Mike singing "Of the Heroes and Villians" followed by the Hitsville comment. Leading into
D. The glorious barbershop vocals over the H&V backing track which Brian muted for the Cantina version.

Based on the Cantina mix, I believe the Barbershop vocals over the backing track would have followed immediately after the 2 verse leading into the Cantina section.  In the box, they are placed after the 3 score and five verse in the track 24 CD 4 H&V mix.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2012, 03:33:54 PM »

Okay, so the MIX isn't on the box, but all of the parts in themselves are?
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2012, 04:30:52 AM »

I remember a "version 4" of "Part 1 fade". Did I dream that or is it already there?
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