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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2011, 09:17:36 PM »

It's "moved UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A START up to Europe", not "moved down up to Europe".
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2011, 09:29:19 PM »

If I thought more than a tiny fraction of the posters on this board agreed with the above two posts, I would never come here again.
How eminently reasonable! I can surely understand how people praising a song you don't enjoy would cause you to abandon a message board you ostensibly otherwise enjoy. A+
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2011, 10:56:02 PM »

Bruce is a paradox. On the one hand, he came up with brilliant arrangements to his songs. On the other hand, he lacked soul. There always seemed to be something lacking with his songs despite their brilliant arrangements.
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2011, 02:03:31 AM »

I like this song. Always have.  Now Deidre is another matter altogether...
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2011, 12:33:23 PM »

I am a pretty big fan of Bruce. "Deirdre" and "Tears in the Morning" are amazing. The songs Bruce wrote for the Rip Chords are really good too. "The Queen", "Gone", and "Old Car Made in '52" are awesome.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2011, 01:09:02 PM »

I can only stand so much Bruce
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2011, 02:17:39 PM »

He apparently doesn't like the Friends album. Cry
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2011, 03:14:19 PM »

He apparently has no taste
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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2011, 06:23:21 PM »

It's "moved UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT B A START up to Europe", not "moved down up to Europe".

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2011, 06:40:43 PM »

Just because we use cheats doesn`t mean we`re not smart.
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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2011, 08:16:48 PM »

Bruce did some cool things in the sixties pre Beach Boys and during his first run with them "Don't Run Away", "Deirdre", and "Disney Girls" are great records, he sang well and was a good musician, but he was always MOR and in the worst sense of the word. A little goes a long way and I think the direction he led them in 1979-80 was a poor one.
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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2011, 09:10:26 PM »

I really like Nearest Faraway Place! It is as good as Let's Go Away For A While.

If I thought more than a tiny fraction of the posters on this board agreed with the above two posts, I would never come here again.

Well, then, goodbye Jeff, and farewell!
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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2011, 10:34:42 PM »

As much as I think Bruce is pretty corny -- and that's basically undeniable, haha -- it's not as if Brian doesn't (or at least didn't then) dig that kind of outmoded-by-1960s-standards "easy listening"-style lounge-y kinda music too... He just had enough sense do gussy it up a bit with some Chuck Berry and R&B! (Okay, that makes him sound like he's fronted a male early-'60s Chordettes or something but I'm sure y'all get what I mean!)
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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2011, 02:09:31 AM »

I imagine Bruce taking a single hit off a joint - coughing profusely - and then sipping pink champagne as he stares out into a lake. That's Bruce going as far out as he knows how.


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I do like this song, but within the hodge podge context of 20/20, it creates more confusion I think. It would've worked much better on Sunflower which feels like the perfect 70s record to me - unashamedly kitsch sunshine pop - the musical equivalent of orange & brown flower-print wall paper. Maybe (dare I say it) in place of Gotta Know The Woman, although two Bruce ballads side by side might be a bit of a stretch.
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« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2011, 08:55:34 AM »

Tell you what. I was in this same boat accept it was derdrie that did it for me. I sat there the first time i heard sunflower mouth agape and wondered how it was that i'd never head it before.
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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2011, 10:16:21 AM »

Tears seemed a bit...more than a bit lyrically schmaltzy/Schlocky but I like the melody of Bruce's songs.  I also like the interplay of the lyrical phrasing and music on Disney Girls.
Nearest Faraway Place has always had a place on my personal mixes and is among the very top BB instrumentals IMO.
I have used it as a transition from the more esoteric high energy songs such as H&V to the return to basics such as DIA.   H&V> NFP>DIA.  The keyboard softly trailing off folowed by the heavy beat intro to DIA.   Bruce's music has a definite place in the catalogue.

......Although I can't say I've been devastated.......
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« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2011, 11:26:29 AM »

And I hope he gets to Bruce's She Believes in Love Again from BB '85, imo one of the better tracks off that album  Smiley

I never thought we'd have a thread on the musical accomplishments of Mr Johnston, as his stuff isn't the most highly regarded in the Boys canon.

Now, if only they'd recorded I Write the Songs, I'd have tears in my eyes, and not just in the morning ... Cheesy
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« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2011, 05:00:51 PM »

The string section in Tears in the Morning is interesting, but not enough to keep me coming back. This would have been a good instrumental.

Now Deirdre is hot sex.
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« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2011, 05:51:14 PM »

And I hope he gets to Bruce's She Believes in Love Again from BB '85, imo one of the better tracks off that album  Smiley

I never thought we'd have a thread on the musical accomplishments of Mr Johnston, as his stuff isn't the most highly regarded in the Boys canon.

Now, if only they'd recorded I Write the Songs, I'd have tears in my eyes, and not just in the morning ... Cheesy
Without a doubt, Mr. Johnston is one of the unsung heroes of The Beach Boys. While he is seen as part of the the Al-Mike bloc, he doesn't inspire the strong emotions that Mike does. He was very supportive of Brian at times and has a true respect and appreciation for Brian's abilities, which as mentioned earlier, he demonstrated compositionally on "The Nearest Faraway Place."

When I met Bruce in 1999, I told him how much I loved "Sunflower" and his material on the album. He basically changed the subject to how much of a genius Brian is, and how far ahead of his time Brian was with SMiLe. He talked to me for a while and was very gracious. He seems like a fantastic guy, without the ego that accompanies his former colleagues. (I'm not blasting Brian or Mike here, they both deserve to have a bit of an ego with what they've accomplished).

I would love to produce an album of Bruce Johnston material. I wish he would try his hand at some new stuff, because it has been way too long. Even though he has never been too prolific a songwriter (witness Goin' Public, comprised of re-recorded songs from the past) I'm sure he has a good backlog of material from the 90s-00s. With the right collaborators, I think Bruce could turn out a great piece of work.
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« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2011, 06:00:42 PM »

Now Deirdre is hot sex.

Not to pry, but if that's the case I think you might be doing sex wrong.
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« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2011, 06:19:09 PM »

That's some very delicate, lacey, cuddley, eskimo kiss and teddy-bear filled sex, right there.
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« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2011, 06:46:43 PM »

I think more like some hot oil and tennis shorts
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« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2011, 06:53:19 PM »

Bruce is great!

Bruce is interesting in that he didn't need the Beach Boys. He could stay home and produce records with Terry, he could go be a Beach Boy and tour and play shows,  or he could go off and write huge hit songs for someone else to sing.

Bruce has been in a pretty enviable position, I'd say for pretty much most of his life.

Disney Girls belongs right up there with the best of what Brian or Dennis have ever written.

Bruce is all good by my book.
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« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2011, 07:52:27 PM »

Deirdre and Disney Girls are great, even tho they sound like The Partridge Family and Barry Manilow if he was any good, respectively. Nearest Faraway Place is nice, but it has nothing to do with Brian's instrumental work on any level and in truth, it sounds like pretty much any mod-mood-music muzak LP of that era you might find in a thrift store for a dime.
I'm more of a Surfer's Pajama Party/Surfin' Round The World/Bruce & Terry/Rip Chords/My World Fell Down guy, myself.
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« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2011, 08:42:38 PM »

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If I thought more than a tiny fraction of the posters on this board agreed with the above two posts, I would never come here again.

Not a fan of Bruce. Don't like Deirdre, much. Don't like Tears in the Morning, at all (apart from the piano bit at the end). Hate Disney Girls. Hate Endless Harmony, She Believes in Love Again and anything post-1985, without even having to hear any of it.

But I love The Nearest Faraway Place.
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