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Question: Who was Brian's best lyricist?
Michael Love - 8 (25%)
Tony Asher - 11 (34.4%)
Van Dyke Parks - 11 (34.4%)
Andy Paley - 0 (0%)
Gary Usher - 0 (0%)
Brian Wilson - 2 (6.3%)
Jack Rieley - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 27

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« on: March 16, 2006, 11:13:09 AM »

I'm with Mr Love.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2006, 11:38:29 AM »

seconded, although they're all very good

Jack Rieley is actually my favorite BB lyricist
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2006, 11:39:45 AM »

It' too hard to choose for me, since some have very few examples (Asher, Parks) so there's no real 'bad' to bring it down. Even Rog wrote Don't Worry Baby.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2006, 11:44:03 AM »

Van Dyke & Tony Asher
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2006, 12:09:14 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 12:15:45 PM »

I went with Tony.  Shocked
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2006, 12:36:43 PM »

I have to say Mike, just for the sheer quantity of good songs they wrote together.  The others also wrote great songs, but not as many. 
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2006, 01:36:07 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2006, 02:10:40 PM »

VDP, by a very wide margin, but Mike also did some excellent stuff, especially on the earlier material.
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2006, 04:51:53 PM »

Gary Usher, he put some of the craziest lyrics into songs. "Why do we have to gamble just to see who's right / Why can't we arbitrarily resolve a fight?"
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2006, 06:39:08 PM »

If you asked me when I was a kid, I'd say Mike Love.

If you asked me after I REALLY listened to Pet Sounds, Id say Tony Asher.

If you asked me last year after I listened to the old recordings of SMiLE, I'd give it tp VDP.

but in the end, it is Mike Love. his lyrics and Brian's music ultimately make and *are* the Beach Boys.

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2006, 10:09:34 PM »

although i prefer vdp, mike got my vote on the strength of their '60's oeuvre.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2006, 01:39:14 AM »

Tony Asher. And Van Dyke Parks is a very close second.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 02:07:33 AM »

Unfortunately, I remain unclear about the extent of Mike Love's lyric contribution on all songs with a Wilson/Love credit.  Otherwise, Mike is the greatest BB lyricist both in terms of quality and quantity.  One thing seems to be for sure, he wrote the lyrics to 'Warmth Of The Sun' and they're just beautiful.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 05:28:32 AM »

1. Van Dyke Parks. Just the sheer amount of puns, wordplays, references, knowledge and emotion is mindblowing itself. And it wasnīt written by an english/history-professor, but by a 22 year old guy!

2. Tony Asher is a close second. Itīs really hard to compare them, because they have a very different style. Everyone who starts a love song with "I may not always love you..." should be praised.

3. Mike Love CAN be an amazing lyricist, but he also wrote a lot of merda. A mixed bag.
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 05:35:00 AM »

In terms of quality of the poetry.....VDP

In terms of ability of the words to move my soul....Tony Asher

In terms of a consistent, large body of good work....Mike Love


It really depends on my mood which I prefer. The cerebral part of me goes for VDP...the sentimental for Tony Asher..and the fun-loving for Mike.

Right now I am thinking Asher...but thats in no small part down to the fact that I was listening th the Pet Sounds DVDA for a obout two hours last night...
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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 09:13:16 AM »

The greatest set of lyrics ever for a Brian Wilson/Beach Boys song would be for "'Til I Die", but Mr. Wilson has rarely come close to that quality before or since. Given that, Mr. Parks gets my vote for the evocative images of "SMiLE".
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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 01:13:24 PM »

And the winner is:  Tony Asher-- The lyrics to Pet Sounds are perfect.  In my opinion, they simply could not have complimented the music any better than they did.

Van Dyke was the ideal choice for SMiLE, but would have been an ill-suited selection for the remainder of the band's catalog.

Mike Love nailed some of his lyrics ("Warmth of the Sun") and faltered greatly on others ("Let the Wind Blow").  Overall he did a pretty admirable job, at least up until MIU or so.

Jack Reiley-- Basically a second rate VDP.  Some of his lyrics are interesting, but overall they lack the beauty and elegance of Mr. Parks.

Roger Christian added some great car lyrics, but that's basically all he ever did-- so he was expendable as the Boys progressed artistically.

Gary Usher would have probably made for a great collaborator on future Beach Boys albums, but I'm glad he went on to do what he did instead of remaining BW's lyricist.

Brian was simply nowhere near prolific enough.
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