What ISNT on TSS

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« on: November 02, 2011, 10:21:11 PM »

So, what stuff isn't on the box?

Heroes and Villains "Cantina Version", in fact is the "at three score..." even on the set at all?
H&V vocal overdubs on UM17, I think they're instructive and I like the "hitsville" at the end.
Vegetables Celesta overdubs on UM17

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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2011, 10:23:20 PM »

Quote from: Fishmonk on November 02, 2011, 10:21:11 PM

in fact is the "at three score..." even on the set at all?

It's on the 7" only, is my understanding.


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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2011, 10:24:39 PM »

Oh, silly me, it's on the "early outtake sections" too.


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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2011, 11:24:41 PM »

Quote from: Fishmonk on November 02, 2011, 10:24:39 PM

Oh, silly me, it's on the "early outtake sections" too.

Yeah but it's edited differently. I don't have the 2CD yet but going by the tracklisting I think it might be on there listed as "H&V Part One". As for what isn't on TSS, they didn't give us many vocal sessions. "Wonderful", "Child Is Father Of The Man", "You Are My Sunshine", "Cabin Essence", "Wind Chimes", "Do You Like Worms?" I believe are all missing vocal overdubs. I know the vocals are featured on the main program but as far as the unedited vocals as they appear on the multi-track tapes, they aren't included on TSS.


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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2011, 11:32:21 PM »

"Lifeboat tape"
"Smog"
"Bob Gordon's Real Trip"
"Basketball Game"
"Taxigabber"
Brian's October '66 mono mix/edit of Our Prayer
Brian's October '66 mono mix of Wonderful
Brian's October '66 mono mix/edit of Wind Chimes
Brian's October '66 mono mix/edit of Child Is Father of the Man backing track
Brian's October and December '66 mono mixes/edits of Cabin Essence
Brian's November '66 mono mix of My Only Sunshine
Brian's December '66 edit pieces of Child Is Father of the Man
Brian's December '66 mono mix of Barnyard
Brian's December '66 mono mixes of Do You Like Worms
Brian's December '66 mono acetate of Heroes and Villains verse vocals
Brian's January '67 mono acetates of Bicycle Rider
Brian's January, February, and June '67 test edits of Heroes and Villains
Brian's April '67 test edit of Vega-Tables


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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2011, 11:51:34 PM »

What is Bob Gordan's Real Trip supposed to be anyway


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« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2011, 12:14:24 AM »

Quote from: Fishmonk on November 02, 2011, 11:51:34 PM

What is Bob Gordan's Real Trip supposed to be anyway

Just one of Brian's experimental recordings from this period


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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2011, 12:14:57 AM »

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 02, 2011, 11:32:21 PM

Would you say that these mono mixes were mostly test mixes (oh gosh I may be opening a can of worms here!)?


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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2011, 12:40:23 AM »

Quote from: John Stivaktas on November 03, 2011, 12:14:57 AM

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 02, 2011, 11:32:21 PM

Would you say that these mono mixes were mostly test mixes (oh gosh I may be opening a can of worms here!)?

I'll open it further… is there enough material here for a follow-up release?


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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2011, 08:45:13 AM »

Doubt it, unless they were going to use more session bits. The "Lifeboat tape" wouldn't ever be released mainly due to the rampant profanity throughout. Same for "Smog".

I don't know if most of those test mixes of Brian's even exist in the tape vaults anymore. Many are from acetates.


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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2011, 09:06:02 AM »

Quote from: JohnMill on November 02, 2011, 11:24:41 PM

Quote from: Fishmonk on November 02, 2011, 10:24:39 PM

Oh, silly me, it's on the "early outtake sections" too.

The Cantina version is indeed H&V Part one on bothe the 2 CD set and the 45 on the big box


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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2011, 12:10:28 PM »

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 02, 2011, 11:32:21 PM

What Brian mono mix/edit of Wind Chimes? Are you talking about the Vosse described acetate, which has not been found and there is some uncertainty if it exists? I sure wish they'd found that.


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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2011, 02:40:49 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2011, 03:01:44 PM »

Quote from: Bicyclerider on November 03, 2011, 12:10:28 PM

Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 02, 2011, 11:32:21 PM

What Brian mono mix/edit of Wind Chimes? Are you talking about the Vosse described acetate, which has not been found and there is some uncertainty if it exists? I sure wish they'd found that.

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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2011, 03:23:48 PM »

The Cantina version of H&V is on the two disc version but not the box set, oddly enough.


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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2011, 03:29:26 PM »

Quote from: runnersdialzero on November 03, 2011, 03:23:48 PM

The Cantina version of H&V is on the two disc version but not the box set, oddly enough.

It is it's just marooned on a 45.


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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 03:51:09 PM »

- "With Me Tonight" (2 versions) (Though one was officially released on Hawthorn, CA. Also, am I mistake or are the session notes referring to the Hawthorn version?)
- "Water Chant" (sessions)
- "Wind Chimes" (vocal sessions)


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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 04:06:22 PM »

The 3+ minute version of WMT on Archeology is really good, would've loved for it to be on this box...


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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2011, 04:18:33 PM »

I was hoping they'd include the take of "With Me Tonight" where Brian gives the most hilariously exaggerated falsetto performance of his life. Funniest sh*t ever. For a guy who was turned into a bit of a taskmaster when the others goofed around too much, this one always struck me as odd.


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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2011, 10:09:47 PM »

i thought that three score stuff was on disc two


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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2011, 10:19:06 PM »

Quote from: P.J. on November 03, 2011, 03:51:09 PM

I can't imagine a tracking session for the Water chant being too...lengthy. Vocal sessions, sure.


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« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2011, 10:28:11 PM »

Not having the "three score and five" section included would be like not having the "cantina" section included. It would be a travesty not having it in this set.

Can't remember if I've heard the cornucopia lyrics to Vegetables included. Is it on here somewhere?


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« Reply #22 on: November 03, 2011, 10:28:55 PM »

The demo.