Disappointment with Surf's Up

[Shady]

First off, the album sounds amazing, SMiLE is the best record ever made and it finally feels as complete as possible.

But, my only complaints are with "Surf's Up".

First off, the Carl line. Not a major complaint just completely unnecessary..

Secondly, the beautiful ending has been destroyed, Purple chick had it right this just feels wrong.

Anyway, back to listening 

[runnersdialzero]

The Carl line fits imo. Brian sang nothing during that part, Carl filled it in with a melody, I'm damn glad they used his vocal there instead of just using the same Brian vocal twice.

This is exactly the same as the '71 ending, but in mono. How does it not work?

I will say I'm disappointed that the vocal lags so often.

[thevigilanteoflove]

What is it that you don't like about the ending? It sounds almost the same as the '71 ending, which I love. I like they "ahhs" before "A children's song..." And the addition of Carl's vocal, however unnecessary, doesn't sound too bad. I love Surf's Up so much. Any version of it always blows my mind.

[Shady]

I just like how on purple chick it goes straight into "a children song", I find it really powerful

The SMiLE sessions version is not to my liking so I just added the Purple Chick ending to the 2011 version, sounds magnificent  

[runnersdialzero]

I just like how on purple chick it goes straight into "a children song", I find it really powerful

The SMiLE sessions version is not to my liking so I just added the 71 ending to the 2011 version, sounds magnificent  

The "a children's song" structure wasn't how it was originally recorded. The 71 ending and the 2011 ending are virtually identical sans stereo versus mono.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

What is it that you don't like about the ending? It sounds almost the same as the '71 ending, which I love. I like they "ahhs" before "A children's song..." And the addition of Carl's vocal, however unnecessary, doesn't sound too bad. I love Surf's Up so much. Any version of it always blows my mind.

Same.

I hate when it goes straight into "a childrens song" it ruins the flow, and gets a bit "rough" too quick

[Shady]

I just like how on purple chick it goes straight into "a children song", I find it really powerful

The SMiLE sessions version is not to my liking so I just added the 71 ending to the 2011 version, sounds magnificent 

The "a children's song" structure wasn't how it was originally recorded, another instance of the Purple Chick being ridiculous in its attempts to mirror BWPS. The 71 ending and the 2011 ending are virtually identical sans stereo versus mono.

Sorry, meant to say the "Purple Chick" ending..

Not fan of the 71 version at all

[trismegistus]

I like the fade in the 71 version, I always thought it was a really powerful way to end the album, one that JMZ's mix takes to a logical conclusion, though both are excellent. I don't recall the Purple Chick ending, but if it's identical to BWPS, with the swell of vocals instead of a fade, it's not bad, but I prefer the 71 mix as the first version I heard. Still haven't heard the TSS mix, so I can't comment, but I'll stick up for the 71 mix.

[drbeachboy]

Well, I'll just add that I don't like Brian's demo vocal on it. The vocal is not polished at all. It sounds rough. I will be swapping this out with the 71 version forth with.

[runnersdialzero]

His vocal is rough? Psshhhh. You trollin'. It's a demo vocal, but it's still great.

[thevigilanteoflove]

I think this is probably my favorite version of Surf's Up ever. The BWPS one is fantastic, and the '71 version is the one I grew up on. This new version has grown on me this last week and I really love the ending.

[drbeachboy]

His vocal is rough? Psshhhh. You trollin'. It's a demo vocal, but it's still great.

No trolling. If you listen to a song for 40 years and you really like it, no way they are going to improve it with a demo vocal. I understand that they had to do it, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

[runnersdialzero]

His vocal is rough? Psshhhh. You trollin'. It's a demo vocal, but it's still great.

No trolling. If you listen to a song for 40 years and you really like it, no way they are going to improve it with a demo vocal. I understand that they had to do it, but it doesn't mean I have to like it.

That's fair. I was going to add that if anyone liked Carl's vocal better, I couldn't blame them. Still, I think Brian's vocal is one of the best he's done. Just because it's taken from what is kind of a demo doesn't mean it's rough or underperformed or anything.

[drbeachboy]

Carl's falsetto on Columnated Ruins Domino sounds nicer and more on pitch or something than Brian. Brian sounds a bit off on Domino. You and I both know that the song would have been sung perfectly had a proper vocal session been done.

[Autotune]

Hyper hyped-up, previously unhearth songs, usually do not live up the expectations risen by the hypers.

Soulful ol man. Meh
Oh lord. Meh
Lazy lizzie. Meh
Little red book. Meh x 2
clangin. Meh

And on and on.

[runnersdialzero]

Hyper hyped-up, previously unhearth songs, usually do not live up the expectations risen by the hypers.

Soulful ol man. Meh
Oh lord. Meh
Lazy lizzie. Meh
Little red book. Meh x 2
clangin. Meh

And on and on.

You're referring to what, exactly?

Also, we don't have "Clangin'".

[sockittome]

Yeesh.  Can't please 'em all, I guess.  Why am I so not surprised......

[MBE]

Hyper hyped-up, previously unhearth songs, usually do not live up the expectations risen by the hypers.

Soulful ol man. Meh
Oh lord. Meh
Lazy lizzie. Meh
Little red book. Meh x 2
clangin. Meh

And on and on.

I like all of those except Clangin

[drbeachboy]

Arrangement or mix wise, there are 4 songs that I am not overly thrilled with on disc one; Look, CITFOTM, Surf's Up and Wind Chimes (mainly the ending). Though the sonics on all are terrific, there are better versions of these tunes on boots, the Surf's Up album, and the 93 Box Set. I don't dislike any of them, just not the best versions.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Honesty, I haven't heard the box yet, but, we're getting fantastic quality mixes of songs featuring some parts we haven't even heard in 44 years.


Mine could come with no music on it and I'd still be happy.

IT'S SMiLE, RELEASED.

[drbeachboy]

I'm not unhappy at all. With having heard so much of this stuff over the last 20 years, it was bound to happen that I would like something different than what is offered here.

[runnersdialzero]

Mine could come with no music on it and I'd still be happy.

IT'S SMiLE, RELEASED.

:\ uhhh.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Well... Maybe just SU 1967 haha

[drbeachboy]

Honesty, I haven't heard the box yet, but, we're getting fantastic quality mixes of songs featuring some parts we haven't even heard in 44 years.


Mine could come with no music on it and I'd still be happy.

IT'S SMiLE, RELEASED.

Smile released with no music is not Smile.

[JohnMill]

His vocal is rough? Psshhhh. You trollin'. It's a demo vocal, but it's still great.

Yes knocking Brian's demo amounts to heresy in my opinion.  The heretic must now be lobbed with an assortment of Vega-Tables.