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« on: October 28, 2011, 08:09:36 AM »

Pst thoughts on DYLW here
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 09:53:54 AM »

Steals the show..

Sounds remarkable, exactly how I wanted it to be 
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 10:22:32 AM »

Feel that it had the possibility of becoming a strong tune, but from what I've heard, it's missing too much to really deliver.   Either that or I've heard only 50 different versions out of the possible 100.
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2011, 05:32:32 AM »

I wonder why the 'Ribbon of Concrete' vocals weren't added to this mix?
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2011, 06:05:56 AM »

The Beach Boys never recorded "Ribbon of Concrete", or at least they're not in the vaults.
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2011, 06:37:14 AM »

I cannot be positive, but they might have been a 2004 addition.
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2011, 07:25:22 AM »

I've just heard Brian singing "Once upon the Sandwich isles" during the sessions and it is indeed a totally different melody than the one we have on BWPS. It's also sung very high, which makes it all the more interesting.
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2011, 07:35:39 AM »

I cannot be positive, but they might have been a 2004 addition.

The lyrics are definitely vintage though.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 06:10:51 PM »

I believe we were previously told the melody and lyrics (including the "Ribbon of concrete" part) were vintage, but it appears only the lyrics are. I've yet to hear the original melody.
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 11:22:18 PM »

I've just heard Brian singing "Once upon the Sandwich isles" during the sessions and it is indeed a totally different melody than the one we have on BWPS. It's also sung very high, which makes it all the more interesting.

This melody sounds to me like an additional vocal, not an alternate melody. Applied to the chords, it would take only one half of these "verses". My unbacked guess would be that it would probably set in in the second half.

Man, so many vocal parts for DYLW are missing, it is heartbreaking.
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2011, 03:52:44 AM »

Just listened. I was holidng on to a 1% hope that maybe an acetate had turned up with lead vox on, but there you go. Sounds great anyway.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2011, 05:20:49 AM »

I've just heard Brian singing "Once upon the Sandwich isles" during the sessions and it is indeed a totally different melody than the one we have on BWPS. It's also sung very high, which makes it all the more interesting.

This melody sounds to me like an additional vocal, not an alternate melody. Applied to the chords, it would take only one half of these "verses". My unbacked guess would be that it would probably set in in the second half.

Man, so many vocal parts for DYLW are missing, it is heartbreaking.

I think it sounds like a verse melody for the first chord. At the second chord the melody would probably be slightly different to fit the chord.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 02:35:02 PM »

I've synched up the count-in verse vocal by Brian to the DYLW track. It fits nicely and makes one wonder how cool the track would have been with _that_ finished vocal track...
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 08:19:45 PM »

I've just heard Brian singing "Once upon the Sandwich isles" during the sessions and it is indeed a totally different melody than the one we have on BWPS. It's also sung very high, which makes it all the more interesting.

This melody sounds to me like an additional vocal, not an alternate melody. Applied to the chords, it would take only one half of these "verses". My unbacked guess would be that it would probably set in in the second half.

Man, so many vocal parts for DYLW are missing, it is heartbreaking.

I think it sounds like a verse melody for the first chord. At the second chord the melody would probably be slightly different to fit the chord.

I agree with Micha, it sounds like a response line to the melody vocal, not the lead melody itself.  Guess we'll never know unfortunately, but still incredibly cool to hear.

Love the new mix, aside from the lack of fadeout, replaced by the "woo-woo"s from "Heroes" a la BWPS.  But that's easy enough to fix - what's most important is that the track and vocals have never sounded better.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2011, 02:33:04 AM »

Just listened. I was holidng on to a 1% hope that maybe an acetate had turned up with lead vox on, but there you go. Sounds great anyway.

I read somewhere ages ago, an obscure reference no doubt, that possibly Carl did the lead vocals on this track but they may have been wiped over. Personally, I doubt it ever happened as the final verse lyrics weren't decided upon of course until BWPS in 2003/4.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2011, 03:45:04 AM »

Biggest revelation of the box set so far for me, that snippet of vocal melody. I've long thought that the 'melody' on the BWPS version is nothing of the sort - and that it's a set of backing vocals. Heaven knows, it's got less going on in it than in most of the album's backing vocals. So perhaps this little control-room snippet gives us a better idea of what the lead melody was to be? Certainly, it sounds like a SMiLE melody, unlike the dreary dirge on BWPS.

Question raised: what would have occupied the rest of that line of the melody? 'Once up-on the Sand-wich Isles xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx'? (And this is before accounting for the half-a-verse thing pointed out above. Call and answer vocals could have covered that.

Hell, as ever, you run round and round in circles and end up back in the Land Of Don't Know.

(Surely Van could throw some light on this?)
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2011, 04:54:06 AM »

Personally, I doubt it ever happened as the final verse lyrics weren't decided upon of course until BWPS in 2003/4.

I'm almost positive all the lyrics to RPR 2004 are vintage. I think the story is Brian remembered the melody, couldn't make out the last word(s) on the lyric sheet and called up VDP to confirm.
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2011, 06:09:12 AM »

Only problem with that melody is that you can't fit 'The social structures steamed upon Hawaii' in there - doesn't scan.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2011, 06:16:02 AM »

It's easily fitted, if you put an upbeat to it. What comes after the lines have run out is the bigger mystery.
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2011, 07:16:11 AM »

The 2004 lyrics are vintage 1966 without doubt - haven't heard the box yet so looking forward to hearing that melody snippet
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2011, 02:12:28 PM »

i'm super pleased how this turned out.  I actually can listen to it straight now.  Especially when that bass kicks in, yum.
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2011, 03:38:42 PM »

Love how they went from the Bicycle Rider section to the bridge.

Brian singing the lyrics! There's no way I can sing them any other way now. Very "Hawaiian"
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2011, 07:59:58 PM »

Love how they went from the Bicycle Rider section to the bridge.

Brian singing the lyrics! There's no way I can sing them any other way now. Very "Hawaiian"

Yeah that fuzz bass is freaking killer - Brian really knew how to use that instrument tastefully, but to great effect.
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2011, 10:22:41 PM »

I've just heard Brian singing "Once upon the Sandwich isles" during the sessions and it is indeed a totally different melody than the one we have on BWPS. It's also sung very high, which makes it all the more interesting.

Wow, thanks for pointing that out, Yorick.  What a tantalizing snippet.
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« Reply #24 on: November 03, 2011, 09:07:23 AM »

Just heard that little vocal snippet. It's really cool. I think that this was the main vocal melody - not sure why he would be singing an additional vocal. The thing is - it almost sounds like there's more lyrics - Once upon the sandwhich isles do do do do...
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