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Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
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the phrase "on the air" should be ground up and fed to rodents.
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Speeches? BW seems to have thunk so… VDP more so…
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Quote from: harrisonjon on October 06, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
Huh? Barnyard is one of the coolest things in the Beach Boys canon...and Vegetables is iconic...nothing like it anywhere. My kids really like Yellow Submarine, so i have no problem with that either...but I remember in its time it was very bizarre.
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Everyone in this thread is banned for DARING to insult the LEGACY that is Smile. Harumph!
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Quote from: harrisonjon on October 06, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
You just named two of my favourite tracks..
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Quote from: harrisonjon on October 06, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
and the Mellow Yellows. And to my mind Barnyard and Vegetables are two of the best examples of the humor Brian wanted in Smile. Absolutely essential to the project IMO.
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Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 06, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: harrisonjon on October 06, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
Huh? Barnyard is one of the coolest things in the Beach Boys canon...and Vegetables is iconic...nothing like it anywhere. My kids really like Yellow Submarine, so i have no problem with that either...but I remember in its time it was very bizarre.
Yeah have to agree on Barnyard - one of my favourite pieces of Smile. Vega-Tables was actually my least favourite Smile track with the exception of maybe Speeches, until the recent mix for the box set. It's totally transformed the song for me and I think gives a much better sense of what it could have been.
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Quote from: buddhahat on October 06, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
Quote from: Jon Stebbins on October 06, 2011, 10:14:28 AM
Quote from: harrisonjon on October 06, 2011, 09:01:56 AM
Barnyard, Vegetables? Are they the Yellow Submarines of Smile?
Huh? Barnyard is one of the coolest things in the Beach Boys canon...and Vegetables is iconic...nothing like it anywhere. My kids really like Yellow Submarine, so i have no problem with that either...but I remember in its time it was very bizarre.
Yeah have to agree on Barnyard - one of my favourite pieces of Smile. Vega-Tables was actually my least favourite Smile track with the exception of maybe Speeches, until the recent mix for the box set. It's totally transformed the song for me and I think gives a much better sense of what it could have been.
Its an agree fest...I completely agree with your Vega-Tables assessment. Although I've always loved the quirkiness of it...I'd never heard a mix or edit that wowed me until this new one. It's f'n GREAT.
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I don't like On a Holiday
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I don't like On a Holiday
It's one of my favorite compositions. I love the " Rock, rock and roll, Plymouth Rock rollover" refrain. The rest of the lyric, so-so.
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if you mean by "child like" like YS then I would say Vegetables,H&V and bicycle rider could be kind of childlike..YS isn't that bad of a song IMO it's fun..it's not their best bbut it's nlot their worst IMO..but if you mean "bad" then I can't say they are bad in any way..
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Quote from: Fun Is In on October 06, 2011, 09:05:46 AM
the phrase "on the air" should be ground up and fed to rodents.
lolololololololol
"Barnyard", "Vegetables", etc. are cool as all hell. Lesser than the likes of "Good Vibrations" or "Surf's Up" =/= dispensable.
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[Oh sh*t, why not?] Yes. Some of Smile is dispensable. Obviously. (Someone or another has thought so for the past 40+ years, anyway. What, there was gleaming gold sitting there and it was withheld for...why, again? Ahead of its time? My ass...) And I'd hazard a guess that every single person here, once over the euphoria of the release (once there is such a thing--still a solid 3+ weeks out and thus worthy of our collective held breath), will admit it. But the specifics? Good luck. Obviously this attraction for him is the detraction for other-him. The best thing about it is that. Inherent contradictions make it interesting on some level to everyone. But then the weakest parts to A are the strongest to B.
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Quote from: Luther on October 06, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
And I'd hazard a guess that every single person here, once over the euphoria of the release (once there is such a thing--still a solid 3+ weeks out and thus worthy of our collective held breath), will admit it.
I might agree with this if we hadn't had a good 90% of what's on the box already for several years, in some cases decades, at this point..
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Quote from: Luther on October 06, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
And I'd hazard a guess that every single person here, once over the euphoria of the release (once there is such a thing--still a solid 3+ weeks out and thus worthy of our collective held breath), will admit it.
I might agree with this if we hadn't had a good 90% of what's on the box already for several years, in some cases decades, at this point..
And I might agree with this if we hadn't had a good 279 pages of Smile Sessions discussion on this board. And a very relevant analog from 2004, when for a few brief seconds, every cynical, sarcastic, asshole admitted that s/he (who am I kidding ... mostly he) loved what was being presented. And anyway, your disagreement doesn't have much, if anything, to do with the point. Unless you're saying that nothing in Smile is dispensable because we've had most of it for a long time. Which I assume you're not saying.
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Everything from Smile is sacred, even Teeter Totter Love.
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Quote from: Luther on October 06, 2011, 08:37:42 PM
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Quote from: Luther on October 06, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
And I'd hazard a guess that every single person here, once over the euphoria of the release (once there is such a thing--still a solid 3+ weeks out and thus worthy of our collective held breath), will admit it.
I might agree with this if we hadn't had a good 90% of what's on the box already for several years, in some cases decades, at this point..
And I might agree with this if we hadn't had a good 279 pages of Smile Sessions discussion on this board. And a very relevant analog from 2004, when for a few brief seconds, every cynical, sarcastic, butthole admitted that s/he (who am I kidding ... mostly he) loved what was being presented. And anyway, your disagreement doesn't have much, if anything, to do with the point. Unless you're saying that nothing in Smile is dispensable because we've had most of it for a long time. Which I assume you're not saying.
I'm saying the fanbase's general opinion coming to the conclusion that some of it is dispensable would've happened ages ago, not after the release of this box set.
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Quote from: buddhahat on October 06, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
Vega-Tables was actually my least favourite Smile track with the exception of maybe Speeches, until the recent mix for the box set. It's totally transformed the song for me and I think gives a much better sense of what it could have been.
That's interesting - personally, I find the new mix a bit jarring... IMHO of course, I still prefer the Smiley version, and hooray for TSS coming out.
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Essential to SMiLE:
Our Prayer
Gee
Heroes and Villains
Do You Like Worms?
I'm in Great Shape
Barnyard
He Gives Speeches
My Only Sunshine
Cabin Essence
Wonderful
Look (Song For Children)
Child Is Father of the Man
Surf's Up
Can't Wait Too Long / Workshop
Vega-Tables
Holidays
Wind Chimes
The Elements: Fire
Love To Say Dada
Good Vibrations
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Quote from: Micha on October 06, 2011, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: buddhahat on October 06, 2011, 11:27:45 AM
Vega-Tables was actually my least favourite Smile track with the exception of maybe Speeches, until the recent mix for the box set. It's totally transformed the song for me and I think gives a much better sense of what it could have been.
That's interesting - personally, I find the new mix a bit jarring... IMHO of course, I still prefer the Smiley version, and hooray for TSS coming out.
Where has this surfaced? Or did you kids hear it due to your job etc.?
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Quote from: Luther on October 06, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
[Oh sh*t, why not?] Yes. Some of Smile is dispensable. Obviously. (Someone or another has thought so for the past 40+ years, anyway. What, there was gleaming gold sitting there and it was withheld for...why, again? Ahead of its time? My ass...) And I'd hazard a guess that every single person here, once over the euphoria of the release (once there is such a thing--still a solid 3+ weeks out and thus worthy of our collective held breath), will admit it. But the specifics? Good luck. Obviously this attraction for him is the detraction for other-him. The best thing about it is that. Inherent contradictions make it interesting on some level to everyone. But then the weakest parts to A are the strongest to B.
Luther, sweetheart, where were you all that time?
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