The "Leila Revelation"

[Shady]

Yup I guess that was indeed me who posted the Jungle Music info.  Could swear somebody else mentioned it.

You were right the guy who played it to me over the phone said it was a Smile outtake.  Maybe he was wrong.  Now he was indeed right about the Elements demo which was subsequently bootlegged.
Then again I was still in shock hearing the Sail on Sailor composing tape.

Durrie Parks.  She told me in an email that she had Smile acetates and tapes.  What a letdown to know it was all fruitless.

Can somebody explain this?

What was on those acetates

Nothing of any real interest, apparently.

Some of us would beg to differ  

[Dunderhead]

I don't get it. Is Jungle Music a real thing, or are people just having fun?

[Chocolate Shake Man]

I don't get it. Is Jungle Music a real thing, or are people just having fun?

I'd be willing to bet it's the latter.

[buddhahat]

Is Jungle Music a real thing?

Fishmonk, get with it ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_and_bass

[mammy blue]

You were right the guy who played it to me over the phone said it was a Smile outtake.  Maybe he was wrong.  Now he was indeed right about the Elements demo which was subsequently bootlegged.

Huh ?  Never heard this, or indeed heard of it.  Care to Point Me in the right direction ?

Yes, please Provide Me with evidence as well, that this Elements demo exists.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Wow, You People Must be crazy to ask such an amazing person such a dull request.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Haha. My guess is your PM boxes will be empty.

[The_Holy_Bee]

Though Presumably this demo has never hit the proper bootleg circuit, if indeed it ever existed, I feel I would be reMiss not to perhaps gullibly join the above posters in expressing my interest in what it contained.

[mammy blue]

I recall well the fabled stories of headphone bleed, but if all the folks who've heard the box are to be believed, none of that has made it to the set. Look supposedly has just a couple of sparse vocals, and CIFOTM just an extra harmony or something, right? And I think those were the only two tracks where headphone bleed was mentioned...

But wait... Read the Sound on Sound article carefully. If we go by the bootlegs, on the multitrack boot we only hear the one lead vocal by Carl in the CITFOTM chorus. That is what is described on Sound on Sound; a lone Carl vocal in the CITFOTM chorus. The bootleg source for all the other chorus vocals (with alternate "Childs" at different beats and falsetto vocals) has presumably been various low quality acetates. Since we know that the Child track included in the Box is one of only two tracks sourced directly from acetate (and hopefully a higher quality one), we may already be getting the most complete vocals available for the chorus, that were only heard as bleedthrough on the multitrack. No?

[mammy blue]

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[MJP]

The Elements demo was the piece which had the Vega-tables chant followed by the water chant and what appeared to be fire noises.  It seemed to be three parts of The Elements.  LIsten it was a long time ago. 
Is Jon Hunt on this site because he heard it as well as the Jungle music?
Either way, next time he is on Hoffman's board I'll ask him.

[The_Holy_Bee]

Hi MJP, thanks for trying to remember what you can at this distance.

I assume by the chants you mean the ones done by the Posse (the "big bag of vega-tables" round, the names of sea creatures) as opposed to anything recorded by the Boys themselves? Any chance - to your recollection - this could have been an early fan-edit done from the psycodelic sounds tapes?

Many thanks again.

[Barnshine]

The Elements demo was the piece which had the Vega-tables chant followed by the water chant and what appeared to be fire noises.  It seemed to be three parts of The Elements.  LIsten it was a long time ago. 
Is Jon Hunt on this site because he heard it as well as the Jungle music?
Either way, next time he is on Hoffman's board I'll ask him.

In other words, it could very well be a fan creation (from circulating tapes).

[Andrew G. Doe]

The Elements demo was the piece which had the Vega-tables chant followed by the water chant and what appeared to be fire noises.  It seemed to be three parts of The Elements.  LIsten it was a long time ago. 
Is Jon Hunt on this site because he heard it as well as the Jungle music?
Either way, next time he is on Hoffman's board I'll ask him.

I'll ask him, but from your description, this so-called demo sounds like nothing more than a fan edit of previously available tracks.

[Tricycle Rider]

The hunt for the Inside Pop reels hit a brick wall in a dead end a few years ago. We were lucky in that Oppenheim's own notes turned up.

Can someone kindly point me in the direction of Oppenheim's notes?

Thank you!  

[Micha]

I think "Bag Of Tricks" could be imagined as "jungle sounds". Anyway it ends with some African-jungle-like drum beats. I think it will be on TSS, so people who heard something under the title of "jungle sounds" could recognise it - or not.

[Dunderhead]

I love the world trade center story. Ok, it's not true, I don't care, I'm including it in my stable of smile stories.

[rogerlancelot]

What's the deal with "Brian Farts Into The Piano"? Is it a real track?

[stack-o-tracks]

What's the deal with "Brian Farts Into The Piano"? Is it a real track?

It's "falls" not the other word.

[guitarfool2002]

It's amazing the amount of misinformation that continues to spread...Elements demo?

I wholeheartedly, 100% believe that Brian Wilson had an elemental theme in mind when he started feeding his friends "themes" to chant in the studio. Water? Check. Air? Check. Earth? Check. It's easy to make a case that everything but Fire is there, and Fire was a piece of music. But when the people around him, two of them specifically, say they have no idea what some of the "elements" were or would have been, and Van Dyke is not much help either, how does that lead to the notion of an "Elements Demo" if no one knew what "elements" was?

[rogerlancelot]

What's the deal with "Brian Farts Into The Piano"? Is it a real track?

It's "falls" not the other word.

Thank you so much for clearing the air on this one. I bet I would have listened to this track more repeatedly than that nonsense on Psychedelic Sounds. I might have even made a ring tone out of it. Maybe it's time for another piping hot clam chowder enema.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

What's the deal with "Brian Farts Into The Piano"? Is it a real track?

It's "falls" not the other word.

Thank you so much for clearing the air on this one. I bet I would have listened to this track more repeatedly than that nonsense on Psychedelic Sounds. I might have even made a ring tone out of it. Maybe it's time for another piping hot clam chowder enema.

WIN.

[Andrew G. Doe]

So, I asked Jon Hunt about the "Elements" demo, and "Jungle Music". Here's his response:

"Fan edit big time. That appeared on some boot or other and is just bits of Psychodelic Sounds mashed together. I don't know what Jungle Music even IS!"

[Chocolate Shake Man]

 

[SMiLE Brian]

This jungle music is now officially history like "remember the zoo"