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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 02:53:18 PM »

I don't understand how anyone can think of Murry as a likeable person. That guy should've been locked up.
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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 03:02:01 PM »

I don't understand how anyone can think of Murry as a likeable person. That guy should've been locked up.

Well then so should Brian for trying to give his daughter's drugs. For being a very irresponsible father. For making shocking financial risks with his company. For cheating on his wife and ignoring her.

See what I mean? We're all human and make bad mistakes.
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« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2006, 03:25:33 PM »

Like everyone in the Beach Boys Saga... can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.
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« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2006, 03:31:53 PM »

I don't understand how anyone can think of Murry as a likeable person. That guy should've been locked up.

Well then so should Brian for trying to give his daughter's drugs. For being a very irresponsible father. For making shocking financial risks with his company. For cheating on his wife and ignoring her.


See what I mean? We're all human and make bad mistakes.

Sorry guy, but beating your kids isnt a mistake.
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« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2006, 03:37:30 PM »




Sorry guy, but beating your kids isnt a mistake.

I dunno. My Grandma used to whack her kids with frying pans. They have a totally normal, loving, respectful relationship now.
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« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2006, 04:15:21 PM »

I'm a child of the early 60s.  My dad beat the crap out of us growing....that was "normal" then.  By the standards of the day Murry was a "strict diciplinarian".  Twisted yes....but obviously nobody would have looked twice.
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« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2006, 05:06:31 PM »

Which sparks the obvious question; Why have times changed? Why are Mother's now becoming the national disgrace when caught on video tape giving their kid a smack for being a pain? If at some point discipline was once accepted and encouraged, where did the line cross to cause some to reconsider?

One day if i have children I often wonder how I will discipline them. How will I teach them whichever lesson I hope to teach them? I am not a violent person by any means, but words sometimes simply do not work with people. Believe me, i'm not a Murry sympathizer but I wonder if we are turning into a generation of people who will pamper their children. Rarely do I hear of people getting strict punishments from their parents, more like a quick grounding, later forgotten about.
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« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2006, 08:57:49 PM »

I think it may have something to do with our far superior understanding of psychology and how experiences at certain ages impact young children.  I'm sure there are countless studies out there about the difference between people who grew up in abusive homes vs. people who didnt.  Just look at the Wilson brothers, particularly Brian.  Murry's childhood treatment of him had several lasting effects.  True, they weren't all bad...Murry tought Brian to work hard and be competitive, but he also screwed him up emotionally and made him very fragile.  Like Mark said, this was far more the norm back in those days.  But I don't think the change has anything to do with pampering the children of today...maybe it is just a shift in society that believes that there are more productive ways to discipline children.  I'm sure these old ways still happen in some households, but I for one cannot fathom intentionally inflicting pain on my own child.  I come from a family where calmly talking out problems was the best way to go, not beatings and tying kids to trees.  Murry was screwed up in the head, but in a much different way than Brian.  You use the example of Brian offering his kids drugs...the thing is, he was not what you would call sane when he did that.  Murry, on the other hand, beat his kids knowing full well what he was doing. 
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« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2006, 11:15:32 PM »

See what I mean? We're all human and make bad mistakes.

When you do things on a regular base, they're not mistakes anymore. Murry was just a bad person.

And you can say a whole lot of negative things about Brian, but not that he's a bad person.
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« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2006, 11:47:20 PM »



this cost me $1 at a flea market. someone later told me that i overpaid.
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2006, 01:58:15 AM »

To hate Murry is to hate Brian.

We love to jump on Murry's back for doing what he may have done to his children, yet we keep what Brian may have done to his very hush hush.

When Brian aged he gained weight, stayed in bed, didn't shower or keep clean. These are all traits that dear old Dad had. They weren't so much forced into him as they were inherited from Murry to Brian.

Your apologia for Murry is outrageous.  Do you not think that Brian's problems as a an adult may not be in some way linked to his treatment by his father?  Also, if Brian's 'autobiography' is to be believed (and I know it's misleading in some respects but in this I think there might be more than a grain of truth) Murry himself was subject to brutal treatment by his own father.  That's not to excuse Murry's (or Brian's) behaviour, (as everyone ultimately has to take responsibility for their own actions), but it shows that ill treatment can be passed down the generations.  And what of Brian's behaviour to his own kids?  Yes, he was probably a poor father in many ways but despite, as you point out, inheriting some of his father's character traits, violence towards his children was one he had seemed to have made a conscious decision never to repeat.  As to the 'drugs' incident I just have to imagine the guy was completely out of his mind and didn't know what he was doing.  I don't think the same could be said for Murry's behaviour.
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2006, 05:25:41 AM »

nice find johnathan!
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2006, 02:21:00 PM »

Whoa -- is someone reading my mind?  Or my email?  I just got an invite on MySpace from MURRY himself!!

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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2006, 06:56:03 PM »

Brian surely has some profound neurosis as a result of his childhood....we all do to one degree or another.  But Brian also suffers from Bipolar D/O and Major Depressive D/O which is nothing that can be "put" on someone anymore that can diabetes or cancer.  Murry is the archtype for Archie Bunker in many ways.  Can you imagine this square dude as the boys manager?  IMO the most abusive act Murry commited was selling the SOT catalog out from under Brian.  Clearly that did affect Brian in a deep way.
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« Reply #39 on: March 11, 2006, 03:13:47 PM »

Murray selling the SOT catalog is his f*** you to Brian.
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« Reply #44 on: March 11, 2006, 10:34:00 PM »

 PongHit, I think you've captured all of his known moods.
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« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2006, 08:38:04 AM »

I actually know a Murry in real life. My friend Joe's father is exactly like him. Same build, hair, voice, attitude as the guy. It's sad because he's ran my friend into the ground somewhat now that we're all growing up. As a younger kid Joe was always beaming and always smiling. Now with pressures from his dear old Dad to grow up he never smiles.

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« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2006, 10:01:58 AM »

A few years ago, there was an e-Bay auction for a promo kit from "Many Moods Of Murry Wilson."  It included a contact sheet-style promo picture with a couple of dozen small photos of Murry, each with a different facial expression.  I've never seen anything like it since, and didn't save the picture from the auction item (it was kind of small, so you couldn't really get a good view of the "many moods").  I think it went for around $100.  Anyone else ever see this item, either online or otherwise?
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« Reply #47 on: March 15, 2006, 01:05:20 PM »

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« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2006, 06:23:49 PM »

He's a genius too, you know.
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« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2006, 10:49:12 AM »

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Body: I'm currently working on a Murry Wilson biography that is tentatively titled, "I'm a Genius, Too" that will include many revelations. Right now its looking like a release date of November, 2006.

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