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« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2019, 04:19:31 AM »

I also love instrumental music in operas. Carmen is particularly great.

E, this overture is a desperate attempt to coax you back into the fold before the opera topic closes down yet again. Help!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuFOuh3QHs

(My grandson sang in the "Children's Chorus" in a local concertante production of Carmen a couple of years ago.)
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« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2019, 06:00:28 AM »

JK: I mentioned this briefly in the movie thread, but I'll mention here too as it's on topic. If you like Opera, you really need to watch the movie Philadelphia. There is a scene with Tom Hanks playing an opera for Densel Washington. I won't spoil it, but it's an intensely emotional and compelling scene. If nothing else, so a search for the scene on youtube.
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« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2019, 12:37:48 PM »

JK: I mentioned this briefly in the movie thread, but I'll mention here too as it's on topic. If you like Opera, you really need to watch the movie Philadelphia. There is a scene with Tom Hanks playing an opera for Densel Washington. I won't spoil it, but it's an intensely emotional and compelling scene. If nothing else, so a search for the scene on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwRHwKZSu-w

"I am life!" I must see that film. What a moving scene. No wonder Hanks got himself an Oscar.

I have a love-hate relationship with opera. There's this UK TV detective series where the protagonist is often seen late at night alone in his home, going over the day's case with a glass of whiskey and an aria from an opera blasting out (sometimes accompanied by the thumps and shouts of irate neighbours). It always seems so idyllic to me and makes me wish I appreciated opera more! Recent conversations with two wonderful people in this and related topics may eventually convert me completely. We'll see. Wink

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« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2019, 06:37:37 PM »

It's hard for me to concentrate to post much right now. My youngest sister took ill a couple of days ago and will have major surgery tomorrow. Shocked all of us. After things settle down a bit I will try to post more.
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« Reply #79 on: November 07, 2019, 04:01:59 AM »

It's hard for me to concentrate to post much right now. My youngest sister took ill a couple of days ago and will have major surgery tomorrow. Shocked all of us. After things settle down a bit I will try to post more.

So sorry to hear that, E. You and yours are in my thoughts right now.

ForHerCryingSoul once mentioned La Scala di Seta in this topic (and then disappeared). Maybe an aria from that opera will help keep your spirits up at this difficult time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMEYRbXHkUo
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« Reply #80 on: November 08, 2019, 04:11:43 AM »

In addition to the overtures I'm doing, I'm also recording the entirety of Handel's Rodelinda, and hoping to sing a lot of it, or get helpers for the lower and higher voices, to sing it in a less classical and more pop way--not to dilute, but to present in a different way, so that I might proselytize on behalf of the music that I love the most--and ultimately the music itself is more important that how it's done (as long as it's done well.)

Next time you're around, JH, perhaps you could recommend a decent version of Rodelinda out of the CDs listed below. They are all available from my local record-lending library. In each case I've listed the lead soprano (where indicated), ensemble and conductor.

- Simone Kermes/Il Complesso Barocco/Alan Curtis
- Barbara Schlick/Stagione/Michael Schneider
- Sophie Daneman/Raglan Baroque Players/Nicholas Kraemer
- Joan Sutherland/Philomusica of London/Charles Farncombe
- Joan Sutherland/Orchestra of the Welsh National Opera/Richard Bonynge
- Orchester des Reichssenders Stuttgart/Carl Leinhardt
- Sonia Ganassi/Orchestra Internazionale d'Italia/Diego Fasolis

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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2019, 06:37:33 PM »

In addition to the overtures I'm doing, I'm also recording the entirety of Handel's Rodelinda, and hoping to sing a lot of it, or get helpers for the lower and higher voices, to sing it in a less classical and more pop way--not to dilute, but to present in a different way, so that I might proselytize on behalf of the music that I love the most--and ultimately the music itself is more important that how it's done (as long as it's done well.)

Next time you're around, JH, perhaps you could recommend a decent version of Rodelinda out of the CDs listed below. They are all available from my local record-lending library. In each case I've listed the lead soprano (where indicated), ensemble and conductor.

- Simone Kermes/Il Complesso Barocco/Alan Curtis
- Barbara Schlick/Stagione/Michael Schneider
- Sophie Daneman/Raglan Baroque Players/Nicholas Kraemer
- Joan Sutherland/Philomusica of London/Charles Farncombe
- Joan Sutherland/Orchestra of the Welsh National Opera/Richard Bonynge
- Orchester des Reichssenders Stuttgart/Carl Leinhardt
- Sonia Ganassi/Orchestra Internazionale d'Italia/Diego Fasolis




Oh dear, I could write a doctoral thesis on this.

It is tricky--I have not really...loved any Rodelinda on CD.  I'm not sure why, but the right cast has never come together for me.

That said, if you have to choose one, I'd go with the Kraemer.  It feels a little more...heartfelt.  The tempos are sort of old-fashioned, as it were, at times, but the band is historically informed enough.  This one wins for me because I really like Robin Blaze as Unulfo, who is one of my favourite characters in Handel's operas.  His voice is not for everyone, but I find it touching.

As a contralto myself, I always seek out recordings of Sonia Prina, who sings Eduige on the Curtis recording.  I love her unique, flexible but weighty voice.  I have modeled my technique after her.  Also a really interesting, three dimensional character in the opera.
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« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2019, 04:32:18 AM »

Next time you're around, JH, perhaps you could recommend a decent version of Rodelinda out of the CDs listed below. They are all available from my local record-lending library. In each case I've listed the lead soprano (where indicated), ensemble and conductor.

- Simone Kermes/Il Complesso Barocco/Alan Curtis
- Barbara Schlick/Stagione/Michael Schneider
- Sophie Daneman/Raglan Baroque Players/Nicholas Kraemer
- Joan Sutherland/Philomusica of London/Charles Farncombe
- Joan Sutherland/Orchestra of the Welsh National Opera/Richard Bonynge
- Orchester des Reichssenders Stuttgart/Carl Leinhardt
- Sonia Ganassi/Orchestra Internazionale d'Italia/Diego Fasolis

Oh dear, I could write a doctoral thesis on this.

It is tricky--I have not really...loved any Rodelinda on CD.  I'm not sure why, but the right cast has never come together for me.

That said, if you have to choose one, I'd go with the Kraemer.  It feels a little more...heartfelt.  The tempos are sort of old-fashioned, as it were, at times, but the band is historically informed enough.  This one wins for me because I really like Robin Blaze as Unulfo, who is one of my favourite characters in Handel's operas.  His voice is not for everyone, but I find it touching.

As a contralto myself, I always seek out recordings of Sonia Prina, who sings Eduige on the Curtis recording.  I love her unique, flexible but weighty voice.  I have modeled my technique after her.  Also a really interesting, three dimensional character in the opera.

Thank you for taking the time to explain! So it's the Kraemer then. It's just so that I can get acquainted with the opera in connection with your Rodelinda project. Although there's clearly no rush.

Here's Sonia Prina as Eduige, just to get into the spirit of things:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5CZvw_6kGk
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« Reply #83 on: Yesterday at 02:42:37 PM »

I just had to seek out this non-BB/'60s example from Joshilyn H's "Grass/Power Mower" introductory video. "Quel torrente, che cade dal monte", sung by the hero in Handel's Giulio Cesare, in this version features the French contralto Delphine Galou:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZtBm3ByMS4

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« Reply #84 on: Yesterday at 06:41:03 PM »

I like her; that's a nice reading of it.  I love that aria--I'm a sucker for the brisk ones with very long melismatic expressions.
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« Reply #85 on: Today at 03:18:31 AM »

I like her; that's a nice reading of it.  I love that aria--I'm a sucker for the brisk ones with very long melismatic expressions.

That's an aspect of Baroque I still have to work on! That said, the Buxtehude harpsichord album I'm listening to these days can get pretty florid at times--and I seem to have survived. Smokin

Which brings me to another problem area I appear to have overcome thanks to you--music for solo harpsichord! Who would have thought it?
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