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« Reply #100 on: July 27, 2006, 01:00:23 PM »

The XMAS album came out after I was done writing. And again, it's a pleasant piece of work that neither adds to nor distracts from BW's real legacy. In my view.

No way!  That album is outstanding.  And the title song is a f------ GEM that needs recognition as one of Brian's absolute best.

I love it, too. And I also think that it's great but Peter said in his view it doesn't distract or adds to Brian's legacy, and I think he's right with that point. Brian's legacy was built in the 60s imo and no one will remember him in 20 years because he wrote "Christmassey".
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« Reply #101 on: July 28, 2006, 07:22:09 AM »

not "Christmasey," the song "What I really Want for Christmas" is excellent..

i bet you when Brian dies, this one will start getting serious airplay in december.
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« Reply #102 on: July 28, 2006, 09:26:54 AM »

not "Christmasey," the song "What I really Want for Christmas" is excellent..



What ever.... Cool

I don't think this will get airplay in december when he dies. They'll play the Beach Boys' Christmas album...
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« Reply #103 on: August 01, 2006, 06:51:49 AM »

not "Christmasey," the song "What I really Want for Christmas" is excellent..



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I don't think this will get airplay in december when he dies. They'll play the Beach Boys' Christmas album...

Never said they won't play the Beach Boys..  but this song is a classic and it's
unfortunate your heart is too hardened to love it too.  You lose.
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« Reply #104 on: August 01, 2006, 06:56:22 AM »

not "Christmasey," the song "What I really Want for Christmas" is excellent..

i bet you when Brian dies, this one will start getting serious airplay in december.

I hope you're talking about some far off December and not the one coming (because that's how it reads!)
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« Reply #105 on: August 01, 2006, 10:10:07 AM »

WIRWFC should get airplay this year with all the fighting going on around the planet.
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« Reply #106 on: August 02, 2006, 03:24:22 AM »

I got the book yesterday, and read through it in one sitting. It was the first BB-biography I've read, so of course I can´t compare it to others. But I also can´t imagine how it could have been done better in any way.

It´s entertaining, balanced, funny and at times deeply moving. Thanks, Peter!
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« Reply #107 on: August 06, 2006, 03:54:49 PM »

Finally bought it today, and am about a third through it. I'll post my thoughts once I'm done. PRetty excited to have it, though.
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« Reply #108 on: August 06, 2006, 07:34:12 PM »

Hey, I'm glad you guys are checking it out, and seem to like it. Thanks a lot. . . it's great to hear.

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« Reply #109 on: August 07, 2006, 04:52:59 AM »

not "Christmasey," the song "What I really Want for Christmas" is excellent..



What ever.... Cool

I don't think this will get airplay in december when he dies. They'll play the Beach Boys' Christmas album...

Never said they won't play the Beach Boys..  but this song is a classic and it's
unfortunate your heart is too hardened to love it too.  You lose.

What's your problem? I never said I don't love this song ! It's just not likely that they will play Brian's christmas-album. When Dennis died they didn't play POB the whole time(only one or two songs I believe), but Beach Boys-songs, same for Carl. No "heaven" or something. Same will happen with Brian. Except for us fans no one is interested in his solo-stuff and hasn't probably even heard that CD.

Anyway, back on topic. I got the book now and after shutting this computer down, I am going to read it. Can't wait.
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« Reply #110 on: August 20, 2006, 05:40:16 PM »

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« Reply #111 on: August 20, 2006, 07:06:58 PM »

Peter,

I just finished reading your book and I was very impressed.  I thought you struck a proper balance and I believe this is one of the better books about the Beach Boys that I've read.

Good job and the best of luck.
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« Reply #112 on: September 07, 2006, 06:53:46 AM »

Awesome book with lots of new information and viewpoints. The definitive Brian-biographie? No, the definitive will be written after Brian has died, but this is the best book on him to date
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« Reply #113 on: September 11, 2006, 10:08:23 PM »

I just finished this book and I LOVED it. Finally, a really well done Brian/BBs bio in print (Leaf's book is out of print still, Gaines' book is trashy, White's book is a labyrinth, and Brian's "autobiography" is...not). This is the way to go.

Incredible job, Peter. Heck, I'm thinking of re-reading it already...
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« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2006, 03:22:52 PM »

Getting this on friday, can't wait.

Big and thick. and a great cover , i was so amazed when i saw a load of copies sitting on a shelf in the music section in easons  Grin

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« Reply #115 on: September 13, 2006, 09:17:44 PM »

great great read. by far the best book on brian i have ever read. many new stories and quotes that peter must have really had to research to get. great work.
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« Reply #116 on: July 13, 2007, 02:00:06 PM »

Yeh, I thought the book was great! A really intelligent, well-written, balanced read. But to be honest, i just came on here to say that No, Brian's solo xmas album was a sack of cack! A bit late to resume the argument but hey ho...
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« Reply #117 on: October 20, 2007, 10:33:35 PM »

I found It to be a bit boring between the good stuff. I would give 3
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« Reply #118 on: September 29, 2010, 07:14:45 PM »

5 stars.

It was my first delve into the Beach Boys world. For a newbie like me the insight into Brian's young life and his starting the band was amazing. I really felt like a fly-on-the-wall in the Wilson's home during their startup. Then I felt like a fly-on-the-wall during Pet Sounds, SMiLE, yadayadayada...

At this point I had only owned 'Summer Love Songs' 'Pet Sounds' and 'The Beach Boys Greatest Hits' - so as I was reading about SMiLE/Holland/Friends/Love You I had no idea what the music sounded like....just went off of Carlin's word (stupidly I didn't even think to buy some of the albums during my read Huh ).

Anyways, since reading the book (about a year ago), I have bought most of their Studio albums, compilations, Brian Wilson solo albums, and many more books. Many times when I put a BBs album on I will get Carlin's book and read about that album's history. It is a great reference book and a great redemption story. Very well written as well.
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« Reply #119 on: December 30, 2012, 03:33:58 PM »

What a fantastic book! Just finished reading this, and I was amazed at just how many highs and lows Brian and the band have been through throughout their 50 year existence. It was interesting to read all the blurbs from Brian's high school friends, especially the anecdotes from Carol Mountain. The testimony from Rich Sloan at the beginning of the book was interesting to view in light of his recollection later in the book about the time he made a trip backstage to visit the Wilson brothers at a Beach Boys concert in the 70s. He spoke about how shocked he was to see them in their current state compared to when he knew them growing up.

I had mixed emotions towards the end of the book. On one hand, it's great that Brian has a new life, a new career, and seemingly has recovered from a lot of the demons that haunted him post-Smile. But on the other hand, the disarray the surviving Beach Boys were in around 2005 makes me further appreciate just how amazing it was for them to reunite this year, do a successful tour, and put out an amazing album. Such a thing seemed pretty unlikely back then, but it makes me all the more thankful that it happened and that I got to experience it.
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« Reply #120 on: December 26, 2013, 02:47:57 PM »

Thank you Peter for a thorough and truly enjoyable book! It goes without saying that I too found it engrossing, impossible to put down at times!
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« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2014, 06:08:05 AM »

The 1st BBs-related book I ever read - back in the summer of '07, if I remember correctly. Serenade
In the immediate aftermath of finishing the book I drowned myself in every written word on BW/BBs I could get my grubby hands on. 90% of my BBs library still stem from those couple of months.

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« Reply #122 on: February 05, 2014, 06:19:47 AM »

The 1st BBs-related book I ever read - back in the summer of '07, if I remember correctly. Serenade
In the immediate aftermath of finishing the book I drowned myself in every written word on BW/BBs I could get my grubby hands on. 90% of my BBs library still stem from those couple of months.

Thanks, Mr Carlin!

Same! His descriptions of the albums got me to buy most of the albums. I'd sit there listening to the music while re-reading his book...good times.

Without Carlin's book my Beach Boy collection would be very different.
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« Reply #123 on: March 03, 2014, 10:26:11 PM »

It's a shame that the Peter Carlin's book ends before That Lucky Old Sun came about.  I would love to read an insider's account of how that album came to be.  I have enjoyed the book.  Mike Love doesn't come off too well, nor does Dennis Wilson.
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« Reply #124 on: March 27, 2014, 09:59:27 PM »

Hi all,

I read Catch A Wave last September.  I did enjoy the book.  I like the fact that Carnie helped out with this book.  It is wonderul that Smile was finally released.  Brian did have a hard life.  I am glad that he kicked the drug habit many years ago.  I learned a lot about the BB in this book.  Things did turn out very well for Brian.   Mike had a breakdown also.  How Dennis died was scarey.  This books treats them all the same.  Peter Ames Carlin did a very good job.  Landy sounded scarey.  The right people won i that 1991 trial.  Catch A Wave is a must read for BW/BB fans. 
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