Which albums have a perfect flow and/or have no filler at all?

[punkinhead]

in your opinion   


I myself kinda like the filler stuff, but I still consider them filler stuff.

In my opinion of the non-filler-containing albums:
-Summer Days (Then I Kissed Her was kinda pushing it)
-Pet Sounds (obviously
-Smiley
-Wild Honey
-Friends
-Surfer Girl
-Sunflower (Tears in the Morning almost ruin it)
-Holland
-Love You
-L.A.
-BB85
-Still Cruisin (could have been if they were smarter when putting the album together)


SIP is the winner of having the most fillers! I think everything is except Island Fever Lahania Aloha.

[Jonas]

You're high, Tears in the Morning is a grand slam.

Friends has the best flow, beginning to end hands down no questions asked.

[bgas]

For the Capitol years: 
SS
SUSA
SG
LDC
SD2
ASL
Today
Summer Days
Party
PS
SS
WH
Friends
20/20 
All Have NO filler at all, just great songs

[rab2591]

You're high, Tears in the Morning is a grand slam.

Friends has the best flow, beginning to end hands down no questions asked.

We'll eventually hear sh*t about it anyways, so I might as well say it: If not for the inclusion of TM I would rate Friends as their most perfect flowing album. Unfortunately, the chill flow of Friends turns into a class VI river rapids run when TM comes on.
_____

Pet Sounds
Surfer Girl
Love You

are my choices for best flowing albums. Especially Surfer Girl.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Pet Sounds
Friends
Sunflower
So Tough
Holland


Today - except Big Daddy session

Summer Days - except Then I Kissed Her and Bugged at my old Man

Wild Honey - except Mama Says

Surfs Up - except Take a Load off and Student Demo

Love You - except Ding Dang

LA Light - except Shortnin Bread

Keep the Summer Alive

[bgas]

Pet Sounds
Friends
Sunflower
So Tough
Holland


Today - except Big Daddy session

Summer Days - except Then I Kissed Her and Bugged at my old Man

Wild Honey - except Mama Says

Surfs Up - except Take a Load off and Student Demo

Love You - except Ding Dang

LA Light - except Shortnin Bread

Keep the Summer Alive

I'm just wondering: Do you mean these LPs would flow perfectly without those songs, or that those songs are filler? 

[Jonas]

You're high, Tears in the Morning is a grand slam.

Friends has the best flow, beginning to end hands down no questions asked.

We'll eventually hear merda about it anyways, so I might as well say it: If not for the inclusion of TM I would rate Friends as their most perfect flowing album. Unfortunately, the chill flow of Friends turns into a class VI river rapids run when TM comes on.
_____

Pet Sounds
Surfer Girl
Love You

are my choices for best flowing albums. Especially Surfer Girl.

I like TM, but I agree maybe if they added a track before it to sort of build up to it, then the "flow" of the album would be PERFECT.

[the captain]

Only Pet Sounds.

[drbeachboy]

Wild Honey and Holland flow pretty nicely, as well. I have no problem with Brian's filler music. Most of it was pretty decent. The spoken word tracks do wear old after awhile.

[bgas]

Wild Honey and Holland flow pretty nicely, as well. I have no problem with Brian's filler music. Most of it was pretty decent. The spoken word tracks do wear old after awhile.

Oh, I can see where for some people the talking tracks can get old, but I see those as the early presentations of Brian's Comedy sense.
Personally I don't consider any the songs as "filler". Yes they HAD to have 12 songs, but they were fun stuff, and experimentations that brought about Brian's musical changes.

[Jonas]

Only Pet Sounds.

Agree to disagree. Pet Sounds had a collection of amazing music, but did it flow? I don't think so.

[the captain]

Agree to disagree. Pet Sounds had a collection of amazing music, but did it flow? I don't think so.

I was actually thinking more from the "no filler" side of the question, but I'd stand behind it for flow, too. However, I also would strongly consider suggesting that sometimes a good flow is one you've gotten used to. My favorite albums all flow well ... but is that because I have come to love how they flow? Probably.

[punkinhead]

For the Capitol years: 
SS
SUSA
SG
LDC
SD2
ASL
Today
Summer Days
Party
PS
SS
WH
Friends
20/20 
All Have NO filler at all, just great songs

Why not just say every Capitol album, from SS to 20/20? (not including GH/Best Of's...and Stack-O-Tracks)

[punkinhead]

You're high, Tears in the Morning is a grand slam.

Friends has the best flow, beginning to end hands down no questions asked.

I honestly used to be a big fan of Tears in the Morning, especially when I first bought Sunflower, but I just feel like everything around that song has a different vibe that is the same and Tears sticks out, at least the track does.

[bgas]

For the Capitol years: 
SS
SUSA
SG
LDC
SD2
ASL
Today
Summer Days
Party
PS
SS
WH
Friends
20/20 
All Have NO filler at all, just great songs

Why not just say every Capitol album, from SS to 20/20? (not including GH/Best Of's...and Stack-O-Tracks)

I suppose, because I posted the ones I chose.

[punkinhead]

Pet Sounds
Friends
Sunflower
So Tough
Holland


Today - except Big Daddy session

Summer Days - except Then I Kissed Her and Bugged at my old Man

Wild Honey - except Mama Says

Surfs Up - except Take a Load off and Student Demo

Love You - except Ding Dang

LA Light - except Shortnin Bread

Keep the Summer Alive

So Tough? Really? I can't see the flow.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees Then I kissed Her as something that's just kinda there and nothing spectacular. I feel like it's a direct cover, nothing new but lyrics that reverse and apply to a guy.

[punkinhead]

For the Capitol years: 
SS
SUSA
SG
LDC
SD2
ASL
Today
Summer Days
Party
PS
SS
WH
Friends
20/20 
All Have NO filler at all, just great songs

Why not just say every Capitol album, from SS to 20/20? (not including GH/Best Of's...and Stack-O-Tracks)

I suppose, because I posted the ones I chose.

I kinda forgot about LDC, that's a perfect flow...possibly the best flow of all the early albums, right up to Pet Sounds. Surfer Girl also has a great flow, great ballads, instrumentals, and poppy-Brian-y songs.

[kookadams]

From Surfin Safari through Holland, here's the filler: e
(very album from 15 Big Ones and onward is very hit&miss with maybe the exception of Love You, so those can be left for discussion).

 'cassius of love vs sonny wilson'
 'denny's drums'
 'our favorite recording session'
 'bull session w/ big daddy
 'Im bugged at my ol man'
 'little pad'
 'mama says'
 'a day in the life of a tree'
 'he came down'

[Shady]

"He came down"? no way.

Today! Pet Sounds, Wild Honey, Friends and Love You would be my choices.

[Jonas]

However, I also would strongly consider suggesting that sometimes a good flow is one you've gotten used to.

I was going to mention this last night but decided not to post after 100 beers, now that I reread it I see that you already said it! Couldn't agree more.

[Les P]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who sees Then I kissed Her as something that's just kinda there and nothing spectacular. I feel like it's a direct cover, nothing new but lyrics that reverse and apply to a guy.

Yep, no love here for TIKH.  A well-done cover of a very boring song IMHO.   Amazing that it was selected as a UK single in early '67.   And "You're So Good to Me"...decent verse, tossed-off banal chorus.  Overall, while SD&SN has some good material, I can really feel the increasingly sophisticated arrangements chafing against the binding of continued juvenile/adolescent subject matter ("Let Him Run Wild" a notable exception).  Personally I can understand why Brian as a 23-year-old was looking for lyrics with a wider, more adult range than amusement parks and girlfriends going to stay with their grandparents for the summer.

[bgas]

From Surfin Safari through Holland, here's the filler: e
(very album from 15 Big Ones and onward is very hit&miss with maybe the exception of Love You, so those can be left for discussion).

 'cassius of love vs sonny wilson'
 'denny's drums'
 'our favorite recording session'
 'bull session w/ big daddy
 'Im bugged at my ol man'
 'little pad'
 'mama says'
 'a day in the life of a tree'
 'he came down'

I don't consider any of those filler

[Jeff]

I count at least 66 filler tracks, just thru '73

County Fair
Ten Little Indians
Chug-A-Lug
Little Girl (You're My Miss America)
Surfin'
Heads You Win, Tails I Lose
Summertime Blues
Cuckoo Clock
Moon Dawg
The Shift
Misirlou
Stoked
Noble Surfer
Honky Tonk
Lana
Surf Jam
Let's Go Trippin'
Finders Keepers
The Surfer Moon
South Bay Surfer
The Rocking Surfer
Surfers Rule
Boogie Woodie
Ballad Of Ole'Betsy
Car Crazy Cutie
Spirit Of America
A Young Man Is Gone
In The Parkin' Lot
"Cassius" Love vs. "Sonny" Wilson
This Car Of Mine
Pom-Pom Play Girl
Shut Down, Part II
Louie Louie
Denny's Drums
Carl's Big Chance
Do You Remember?
Drive-In
Our Favorite Recording Sessions
Help Me, Ronda
Bull Session With Big Daddy
Amusement Parks U.S.A.
Salt Lake City (but not filler on Stack-O-Trax)
I'm Bugged At My Ol' Man
And Your Dream Comes True
Hully Gully
I Should Have Known Better
Tell Me Why
Papa-Oom-Mow-Mow
Mountain Of Love
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
Devoted To You
Alley Oop
There's No Other (Like My Baby)
Medley:I Get Around/Little Deuce Coupe
The Times They Are A Changin'
She's Goin' Bald
Bluebirds Over The Mountain
All I Want to Do
The Nearest Faraway Place
Don't Go Near The Water
Take A Load Off Your Feet
Student Demonstration Time
Here She Comes
He Came Down
Hold On Dear Brother
Make It Good

[Chocolate Shake Man]

From Surfin Safari through Holland, here's the filler: e
(very album from 15 Big Ones and onward is very hit&miss with maybe the exception of Love You, so those can be left for discussion).

 'cassius of love vs sonny wilson'
 'denny's drums'
 'our favorite recording session'
 'bull session w/ big daddy
 'Im bugged at my ol man'
 'little pad'
 'mama says'
 'a day in the life of a tree'
 'he came down'

I don't consider any of those filler

Yeah, but it's surprising since so many of them are songs that are literally on the album for the sole purpose of filling it out.

[Myk Luhv]

It sure seems like people are conflating 'filler' with 'songs they do not like', and I don't quite think they're the same. Spoken-word or interview tracks on LPs are obviously filler -- they'd be the things meant to fill out an album where not enough material can be marshalled. This can hold for songs as well, of course, like the last three on Shut Down Vol. 2... but I don't think most of Carl & The Passions "So Tough" counts as filler!