New date for Smile sessions.

[PhilCohen]

There is no doubt in my mind Smile Sessions is coming out. When will depend upon when the agreement can be reached within The Beach Boys that they all are okay with the package. I don`t see that taking too long once a final proposal is made. So patience is in order...and all the drama on these boards does nothing to make things happen any faster than it is meant to happen. I know the folks working on the project are TOTALLY committed to doing right by Brian and The Beach Boys and presenting something that everyone will be proud of.

Translation: even though Mike Love ostensibly put his signature on the dotted line to permit the "Smile" box, Love or his attorneys could still stop the release with objections to the liner notes or mixes.

[juggler]

Phil, I respect your right to your opinion, and perhaps your pessimism serves a sort of devil's advocate role on this board in reminding us that, yes, there does exist the possibility that something could go wrong.  Nonetheless, I have to believe that Messrs. Boyd and Linett and the folks at Capitol are fully aware of the ego(s) involved and are going to do their best to make sure all the principals are happy.

[Peter Reum]

As my colleague Oblio`s namesake in Nilsson`s The Point hears from the Rockman in The Pointless Forest, "you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear."

[Jonas]

There is no doubt in my mind Smile Sessions is coming out. When will depend upon when the agreement can be reached within The Beach Boys that they all are okay with the package. I don`t see that taking too long once a final proposal is made. So patience is in order...and all the drama on these boards does nothing to make things happen any faster than it is meant to happen. I know the folks working on the project are TOTALLY committed to doing right by Brian and The Beach Boys and presenting something that everyone will be proud of.

Translation: even though Mike Love ostensibly put his signature on the dotted line to permit the "Smile" box, Love or his attorneys could still stop the release with objections to the liner notes or mixes.

Dude, get over it.

[Jason]

Dude...Michael is just one more member of the band who has wanted a release of the Smile stuff as soon as Brian was ready to give the ok. Honestly, I think your devil's advocate role here is not to provoke intelligent discussion but rather to try and hang on to the whole notion that Michael never wanted the stuff released. As Joe said, "dude, get over it."

[bgas]

Dude...Michael is just one more member of the band who has wanted a release of the Smile stuff as soon as Brian was ready to give the ok. Honestly, I think your devil's advocate role here is not to provoke intelligent discussion but rather to try and hang on to the whole notion that Michael never wanted the stuff released. As Joe said, "dude, get over it."

So Jonas stands for " your Joe-ness"  and his name isn't really Jonas?  I thought he was just that little bit away from the whale's mouth, but now...

[Andrew G. Doe]

There is no doubt in my mind Smile Sessions is coming out. When will depend upon when the agreement can be reached within The Beach Boys that they all are okay with the package. I don`t see that taking too long once a final proposal is made. So patience is in order...and all the drama on these boards does nothing to make things happen any faster than it is meant to happen. I know the folks working on the project are TOTALLY committed to doing right by Brian and The Beach Boys and presenting something that everyone will be proud of.

Translation: even though Mike Love ostensibly put his signature on the dotted line to permit the "Smile" box, Love or his attorneys could still stop the release with objections to the liner notes or mixes.

No. Mike has not "ostensibly" signed (ostensibly: apparently or purportedly, but perhaps not actually), he has signed off. That isn't speculation. Capitol have learned their lesson from 1996.

Phil, there's reasonable caution, there's understandable scepticism, and then there's your Eeyore world view. You may not have noticed this over the last, oh, three and a half decades or so, but I'm pretty damn leery of most anything anyone says that emanates from the BB camp. How many times have I said "I don't believe this project will happen this year" since it was first rumored, let alone announced ? If for some reason it doesn't - and I agree that this is possible - it won't be down to Mike. For one thing EMI/Capitol is in a pretty financial pickle, and I'd imagine that if anyone had final approval, his initials would be BDW rather than MEL.

So, patience: sometimes no news is good news. Except, of course, if you're averse to good news.  

As my colleague Oblio`s namesake in Nilsson`s The Point hears from the Rockman in The Pointless Forest, "you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear."

Or as my father was wont to say, "can't tell someone something they don't want to hear".

[buddhahat]

^^^ Lovin the new avatar, AGD. Shouldn't you be looking through a striped window shade though?! 

[Andrew G. Doe]

^^^ Lovin the new avatar, AGD. Shouldn't you be looking through a striped window shade though?! 

That would be too obvious. Also, that was in 1966... ;-)

[buddhahat]

^^^ Lovin the new avatar, AGD. Shouldn't you be looking through a striped window shade though?! 

That would be too obvious. Also, that was in 1966... ;-)

[Jason]

I'm waiting for Andrew's avatar to start belting out some classic Doobies! 

[The Shift]

I'm missing the top hat already… what am I gonna do with my avatar now?

[Shady]

I thought AGD had Jeff "The Dude" Bridges in his avatar

[Paulos]

From reading all the various SMiLE threads I have managed to come to the conclusion that Phil Cohen does not actually want there to be a SMiLE sessions release for reasons known only to him, please stop posting about SMiLE Phil as you are boring everyone to death.

[OBLiO]

Thank you for your post! It is weird how one`s life changes from being an outsider observing to a partcipant to a part of the story. I have begun writing again recently for David at ESQ, and it is a wonderful departure from my regular job, which can be very intense. David Beard has kindly asked me to join the staff at ESQ, which I have accepted,and I am working on a piece now covering the post BB in Concert through 15 Big Ones era. I`ll be contributing an article to the Smile Sessions issue in the fall as well. I am reworking a 1992 article on the BW work outside the Beach Boys as well. Who knows what the future brings?

 

As my colleague Oblio`s namesake in Nilsson`s The Point hears from the Rockman in The Pointless Forest, "you see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear."

[Andrew G. Doe]

I thought AGD had Jeff "The Dude" Bridges in his avatar

I'm flattered. Jeff, on the other hand... 

[The Shift]

From reading all the various SMiLE threads I have managed to come to the conclusion that Phil Cohen does not actually want there to be a SMiLE sessions release for reasons known only to him, please stop posting about SMiLE Phil as you are boring everyone to death.

Not so -  I'm finding it entertaining and it's good to have a voice of dissent; don't forget that a SMILE package has been on the cards several times before. And don't also forget what happened to the PS box first time around. This is BeachBoysLand -  until something happens, anything could happen, and even then they could rescind it.  I believe it'll happen but I respect (and empathise with) Phil's right to be skeptical.

And his mix is great!

[The Heartical Don]

I thought AGD had Jeff "The Dude" Bridges in his avatar

I'm flattered. Jeff, on the other hand... 

Hehe... I'd think that AGD is the very last person on the planet who is permanently 'enhanced' by the mellow weed, given the sharp and witty posts he's used to dispatch to this very board...

[bsten]

...or they've decided to perpetuate the SMiLE myth by bringing it this close to release and then scuttling it for another 46 years.

So true, won't believe it till it's in my hands. Even then I'll be skeptical.

Translation: even though Mike Love ostensibly put his signature on the dotted line to permit the "Smile" box, Love or his attorneys could still stop the release with objections to the liner notes or mixes.

We'll probably get a box full of Transcendental Meditation outtakes... ;P

/B

[Runaways]

i for one enjoy phil's posts.