SMiLE Sessions box set!

[elnombre]

I note none of the autographed combos make any mention of who they're autographed by...

[hypehat]

I have been given the ok by Capitol to tell you that the boxes will be autographed by myself,  The Heartical Don and Al 'Legs' Jardine. The Don is signing them first and sending them from Holland to Blighty, wherein I scrawl senselessly upon them and then post them to the shortest man in rock.


Only thing is, that Don sure is taking his time......

[Cliff1000uk]

I have been given the ok by Capitol to tell you that the boxes will be autographed by myself,  The Heartical Don and Al 'Legs' Jardine. The Don is signing them first and sending them from Holland to Blighty, wherein I scrawl senselessly upon them and then post them to the shortest man in rock.


Only thing is, that Don sure is taking his time......

I think the all important question here is whether Phil will be signing them?!

[homeontherange]

I think Wind Chimes might be the early version, since it says 3:06. I've only heard the 2:28 version with vocals 

You've got to remember though that on BWPS he added in the Whispering Winds part; so they probably added that back in on this one.  I think this first CD is going to be nearly identical, instrumentally, to BWPS. 

As long as they include the groovy bass part.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Up for UK pre-order at Badlands in Cheltenham  UK - around £130

http://www.badlands.co.uk/Store/Tab.aspx?sck=59061881&tabid=1

Phone is best - just placed mine

£130 plus postage ?  I bought from amazon @ $111, with postage & duty $145, or under £90.

Even at $170, that's still only about £105. Which sucks.

[hypehat]

I have been given the ok by Capitol to tell you that the boxes will be autographed by myself,  The Heartical Don and Al 'Legs' Jardine. The Don is signing them first and sending them from Holland to Blighty, wherein I scrawl senselessly upon them and then post them to the shortest man in rock.


Only thing is, that Don sure is taking his time......

I think the all important question here is whether Phil will be signing them?!

The Tower apparently have invited Phil to the press listening party, under one condition - That he wears earplugs.....

[hypehat]

Up for UK pre-order at Badlands in Cheltenham  UK - around £130

http://www.badlands.co.uk/Store/Tab.aspx?sck=59061881&tabid=1

Phone is best - just placed mine

£130 plus postage ?  I bought from amazon @ $111, with postage & duty $145, or under £90.

Even at $170, that's still only about £105. Which sucks.

Spin are doing it at 130, with free postage, which is about what I'm paying for mine from .com - I missed the $110 extravaganza.

[The Shift]

Just seen that the BBC is reporting the Smile Sessions release on its overseas Teletext pages. That's pretty rare… maybe only the Beatles boxes previously drew that kind of coverage of a rock release?

[Cliff1000uk]

Just seen that the BBC is reporting the Smile Sessions release on its overseas Teletext pages. That's pretty rare… maybe only the Beatles boxes previously drew that kind of coverage of a rock release?

And here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14729256

Couple of factual errors but hey, it's out there-what will be interesting is see where it goes in the UK Amazon charts

And the NME choose 2 random photos for their piece:

http://www.nme.com/news/the-beach-boys/58949

[CosmicDancer]

Jsidered for a Grammy ?

And might VDP's non-writing have something to do with the "fight" he and Mike had after BWPS ?

I have never heard anything about this.  What happened?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Just a thought that I'll overake from AGD in another thread (or maybe this one?):
Will Nov. 1st be early enough for Smile to be considered for a Grammy ?


EDIT:
And might VDP's non-writing have something to do with the "fight" he and Mike had after BWPS ?

Grammy 2012 cutoff is 9/30/2011.

And the non-appearence of any new contribution from VDP has nothing to do with Mike Love.

[18thofMay]

Just a thought that I'll overake from AGD in another thread (or maybe this one?):
Will Nov. 1st be early enough for Smile to be considered for a Grammy ?


EDIT:
And might VDP's non-writing have something to do with the "fight" he and Mike had after BWPS ?

Grammy 2012 cutoff is 9/30/2011.

And the non-appearence of any new contribution from VDP has nothing to do with Mike Love.

Can it be submitted to the douche bags that decide the grammy's before it is released, the grammy's suck asseeeesse

[18thofMay]

An Aria, now that's an award!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Modern

Van Dyke, helped out with one or two!!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Just a thought that I'll overake from AGD in another thread (or maybe this one?):
Will Nov. 1st be early enough for Smile to be considered for a Grammy ?


EDIT:
And might VDP's non-writing have something to do with the "fight" he and Mike had after BWPS ?

Grammy 2012 cutoff is 9/30/2011.

And the non-appearence of any new contribution from VDP has nothing to do with Mike Love.

Can it be submitted to the douche bags that decide the grammy's before it is released, the grammy's suck asseeeesse

Nope - rules say it has to be available on the shops/online by 11.59.59pm on 9/30... and pre-orders don't count !

[18thofMay]

Surely Mike can pull some strings!!

[The Heartical Don]

Life until Nov 1 seems so utterly, utterly dull and worthless suddenly.

I sense a lot of boredom ennui on the way ahead.

Think I need a therapist.

Just picking my nose, making boogies, shooting them at my window.

Meh.

[guitarfool2002]

I couldn't give a flying fart about the surfboard or a button.
All I'm interested in is the music.
"Been too looong, been way too long ba a a by...."
 

So I assume you won't be coughing up the $6,000 for the Hobie surfboard? 

If it really were all about the music, they could have sold basically any product or item with a "Smile" logo and made a killing, as long as the fans buy it. I think it would be neat then to have bags of Smile snacks, like they gave away with the Party album in '65.

Although the shark giveaway is tough to beat. That was a great one.

[smokeythebear]

I am probably going to dangle from a tree for saying this but why all this extreme nostalgia nitpicking about smile cutting and mixing? Do mono tape splices bad EQ sound so great? I simply do not get it. I think the Pets Sounds new stereo mixes sounds one million times better than the original pet sounds mix that frankly sounds like a sloppy job, and i hope they go in and do the same for smile.

Getting as close to what Brian envisioned for smile seems to be the goal, but that was given the tools he had at the time and that was a limit of tracks that forced bouncing, scissors for cutting tape and a console not made for stereo.  I do not care much for recreating the tracks in mono only and with tape splices just for the sake of prosperity, if you just want to release it exactly as Brian had planned do one LP vinyl cut in mono, mixed Hoffman style and release it. Or perhaps you can listen to the boots through a single speaker.

But we do have other tools today that can get us closer to what Brian intended with the music such as protools, good EQ, and endless tracks. We can make the tracks sound brilliant with perfect cuts between bits, we can make them blend seamlessly. We have the ability to fly in vocals recorded later that's missing and it can be done with taste.

Brian did not intend to use scissors, bad EQ, Mono, tape bounces, different studios. He was limited in the tools he was given at the time and there is a major difference, it can be seen as charming and a part of the sound, me it just bugs to hear bad edits and knowing how good it could sound with todays technology.

A good anology would be Starwars and the rerelase of the movies, the tasteless stuff added was the CGI bar scene, but the good stuff they did was removing ugly matting on the ships, upgrading the picture quality and fixing small errors and bad cuts, i like bad matting as much as i like bad cutting in music. Was it GL´s intention to release Starwars with bad mating, bad puppetry and phony looking planets? no, but it was the only tools that were available to him at the time and that is why he waited with the other movies and revamped the first (Ill never forgive him for Jar Jar tough).

Also there is this notion that Brian was a god at everything, playing, producing, mixing, mastering the works. I would say he was not a god behind the console and were often a victim of his own whims, lets turn help me rhonda ending up and down as a fun prank or lets turn down the background for a half verse on IJWMFTT. He was a good writer arranger and producer ill give him that but mixing...honestly...nahh..

I like the notion of freeing the music from the chains of mono and from the chain of 60´s console EQ...

There i said it, let me hang

[Mikie]

Screw the music. I've heard most of SMiLE already. I want the surfboard!

[The Shift]

I am probably going to dangle from a tree for saying this but why all this extreme nostalgia nitpicking about smile cutting and mixing? Do mono tape splices bad EQ sound so great? I simply do not get it. I think the Pets Sounds new stereo mixes sounds one million times better than the original pet sounds mix that frankly sounds like a sloppy job, and i hope they go in and do the same for smile.

Getting as close to what Brian envisioned for smile seems to be the goal, but that was given the tools he had at the time and that was a limit of tracks that forced bouncing, scissors for cutting tape and a console not made for stereo.  I do not care much for recreating the tracks in mono only and with tape splices just for the sake of prosperity, if you just want to release it exactly as Brian had planned do one LP vinyl cut in mono, mixed Hoffman style and release it. Or perhaps you can listen to the boots through a single speaker.

But we do have other tools today that can get us closer to what Brian intended with the music such as protools, good EQ, and endless tracks. We can make the tracks sound brilliant with perfect cuts between bits, we can make them blend seamlessly. We have the ability to fly in vocals recorded later that's missing and it can be done with taste.

Brian did not intend to use scissors, bad EQ, Mono, tape bounces, different studios. He was limited in the tools he was given at the time and there is a major difference, it can be seen as charming and a part of the sound, me it just bugs to hear bad edits and knowing how good it could sound with todays technology.

A good anology would be Starwars and the rerelase of the movies, the tasteless stuff added was the CGI bar scene, but the good stuff they did was removing ugly matting on the ships, upgrading the picture quality and fixing small errors and bad cuts, i like bad matting as much as i like bad cutting in music. Was it GL´s intention to release Starwars with bad mating, bad puppetry and phony looking planets? no, but it was the only tools that were available to him at the time and that is why he waited with the other movies and revamped the first (Ill never forgive him for Jar Jar tough).

Also there is this notion that Brian was a god at everything, playing, producing, mixing, mastering the works. I would say he was not a god behind the console and were often a victim of his own whims, lets turn help me rhonda ending up and down as a fun prank or lets turn down the background for a half verse on IJWMFTT. He was a good writer arranger and producer ill give him that but mixing...honestly...nahh..

I like the notion of freeing the music from the chains of mono and from the chain of 60´s console EQ...

There i said it, let me hang

In general agreement. If I had a choice, I'd go for the clarity of stereo, which I do every time with Pet Sounds these days.  Looking forward to the stereo cuts on these sets.

[drbeachboy]

I am probably going to dangle from a tree for saying this but why all this extreme nostalgia nitpicking about smile cutting and mixing? Do mono tape splices bad EQ sound so great? I simply do not get it. I think the Pets Sounds new stereo mixes sounds one million times better than the original pet sounds mix that frankly sounds like a sloppy job, and i hope they go in and do the same for smile.

Getting as close to what Brian envisioned for smile seems to be the goal, but that was given the tools he had at the time and that was a limit of tracks that forced bouncing, scissors for cutting tape and a console not made for stereo.  I do not care much for recreating the tracks in mono only and with tape splices just for the sake of prosperity, if you just want to release it exactly as Brian had planned do one LP vinyl cut in mono, mixed Hoffman style and release it. Or perhaps you can listen to the boots through a single speaker.

But we do have other tools today that can get us closer to what Brian intended with the music such as protools, good EQ, and endless tracks. We can make the tracks sound brilliant with perfect cuts between bits, we can make them blend seamlessly. We have the ability to fly in vocals recorded later that's missing and it can be done with taste.

Brian did not intend to use scissors, bad EQ, Mono, tape bounces, different studios. He was limited in the tools he was given at the time and there is a major difference, it can be seen as charming and a part of the sound, me it just bugs to hear bad edits and knowing how good it could sound with todays technology.

A good anology would be Starwars and the rerelase of the movies, the tasteless stuff added was the CGI bar scene, but the good stuff they did was removing ugly matting on the ships, upgrading the picture quality and fixing small errors and bad cuts, i like bad matting as much as i like bad cutting in music. Was it GL´s intention to release Starwars with bad mating, bad puppetry and phony looking planets? no, but it was the only tools that were available to him at the time and that is why he waited with the other movies and revamped the first (Ill never forgive him for Jar Jar tough).

Also there is this notion that Brian was a god at everything, playing, producing, mixing, mastering the works. I would say he was not a god behind the console and were often a victim of his own whims, lets turn help me rhonda ending up and down as a fun prank or lets turn down the background for a half verse on IJWMFTT. He was a good writer arranger and producer ill give him that but mixing...honestly...nahh..

I like the notion of freeing the music from the chains of mono and from the chain of 60´s console EQ...

There i said it, let me hang

Nice post, but about a year to late. I don't see Disc 1 being in mono just because that is the way Brian would have released it in 1967. Mono is really the common denominator of all the sources used to prepare it for high fidelity presentation. The rest of the set has plenty of stereo for you to enjoy.

[The Heartical Don]

Screw the music. I've heard most of SMiLE already. I want the surfboard!

You could, um, go to a record store, um, and detach it from the box, hide it under your T-shirt, and run away?

[hypehat]

Are you saying Brian purposefully mixed in mono despite, in his heart of hearts, not intending to do so?

BW intended, for some point in time, to release SMiLE in 1967 using the available technology. Just as he had released the 10+ prior Beach Boys albums. I bet had he got it finished, he would absolutely have had to splice tape and that's what he would have intended to do. What's the alternative? It's the way they made music. he had absolutely no idea what digital technology was. No-one did!

It's a little like saying 'well, Fender make better basses today then they did in 1967, so I think we should re-record the bass tracks so they have the best bass sound imaginable, as that's what Brian was looking for - he was merely making do with crap bass on his records, but he really wanted the best!'

As for TSS coming in mono, I think it's more of a technical decision - We know it's impossible to create 'real' stereo masters of a few Smile tracks (Good Vibrations, Wonderful, YAMS, portions of H&V off the top of my head) so if your mission is to create as 'complete' a record as you can, you have to use the mono sources. And rather than flipping back and forth between mono/stereo, they just decided to stick with one.

Not trying to hang, it just seems a curious point of view....


Or, what Dr. BB said in one sentence 

[Mikie]

I am probably going to dangle from a tree for saying this but why all this extreme nostalgia nitpicking about smile cutting and mixing? Do mono tape splices bad EQ sound so great? I simply do not get it. I think the Pets Sounds new stereo mixes sounds one million times better than the original pet sounds mix that frankly sounds like a sloppy job, and i hope they go in and do the same for smile. Getting as close to what Brian envisioned for smile seems to be the goal, but that was given the tools he had at the time and that was a limit of tracks that forced bouncing, scissors for cutting tape and a console not made for stereo.  I do not care much for recreating the tracks in mono only and with tape splices just for the sake of prosperity.

Completely agree with all of this. Give me the stereo versions. Far and away better than the mono mixes. I've already heard the mono mixes 487 times each. I want to be enlightened now. And give me what Brian originally envisioned, not a bunch of cut and paste edits that us amateurs can do already. If Brian signs off on it, that's good enough for me.

[drbeachboy]

I am probably going to dangle from a tree for saying this but why all this extreme nostalgia nitpicking about smile cutting and mixing? Do mono tape splices bad EQ sound so great? I simply do not get it. I think the Pets Sounds new stereo mixes sounds one million times better than the original pet sounds mix that frankly sounds like a sloppy job, and i hope they go in and do the same for smile. Getting as close to what Brian envisioned for smile seems to be the goal, but that was given the tools he had at the time and that was a limit of tracks that forced bouncing, scissors for cutting tape and a console not made for stereo.  I do not care much for recreating the tracks in mono only and with tape splices just for the sake of prosperity.

Completely agree with all of this. Give me the stereo versions. Far and away better than the mono mixes. I've already heard the mono mixes 487 times each. I want to be enlightened now. And give me what Brian originally envisioned, not a bunch of cut and paste edits that us amateurs can do already. If Brian signs off on it, that's good enough for me.

Mikie, isn't that the purpose of modular recording to cut & paste? I don't see what Mark did as any different than what Brian would have done, and did. Also, when listening to an album, I don't like the mixing of stereo and mono. With whole albums presentation means a lot.