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« on: March 11, 2011, 12:01:22 PM »

http://www.examiner.com/beach-boys-in-national/the-smile-sessions-box-set-to-see-release-this-summer
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2011, 12:04:56 PM »

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Of the music Mike Love has said, “I like the avant-garde approach and stretching the limits the way Brian (Wilson) did. It went beyond conventional music at the time, and I kind of thought that was pretty cool. “

Oh, I'm waiting for the next exodus that results from the argument over this quote.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2011, 12:05:06 PM »

Damn - you wait 44 years for a Smile box, then two come along at once !  Grin
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2011, 12:32:10 PM »

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Of the music Mike Love has said, “I like the avant-garde approach and stretching the limits the way Brian (Wilson) did. It went beyond conventional music at the time, and I kind of thought that was pretty cool. “

Oh, I'm waiting for the next exodus that results from the argument over this quote.

Jesustittyfuckingchrist, where does one even begin in tearing into that quote?
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2011, 12:39:18 PM »

Brian Wilson Reimagines The Beach Boys Present SMiLE
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2011, 01:04:45 PM »

This news release reads like complete fan fiction - I don't believe it yet.

What is going to be in this limited edition box? Two vinyl albums? The singles I can understand, but why package vinyl albums with four CDs? This is weird.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2011, 01:11:39 PM »

To suck up all our available disposable income, that's why. If they make it, then we'll buy it and they know it.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2011, 01:15:00 PM »

To suck up all our available disposable income, that's why. If they make it, then we'll buy it and they know it.

Spot-on.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2011, 01:18:52 PM »

Clear prior example of this is Bob Dylan's Tell Tale Signs set. It came in three versions.

1.) A single-CD version.

2.) A double-CD version with booklet (this was the "standard" edition).

3.) A three-CD "deluxe" edition with LP-sized packaging and bonus books. It was also more than $100 more than option two.

I would bet that deluxe Smile edition costs somewhere between $200 and $300.



The other example is Bruce Springsteen's "The Promise" -- the "Darkness on the Edge of Town" sessions. There was a standard two-CD version and then a three CD, three DVD edition, also with a book.

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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 01:19:40 PM »

To suck up all our available disposable income, that's why. If they make it, then we'll buy it and they know it.

SO:  I'm in for one, maybe two copies of the deluxe edition.  
What is everyone else going to do when they have to buy vinyl with their beloved CDs?
Surely NOT play the Vinyl....
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 01:22:33 PM »

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Of the music Mike Love has said, “I like the avant-garde approach and stretching the limits the way Brian (Wilson) did. It went beyond conventional music at the time, and I kind of thought that was pretty cool. “

Oh, I'm waiting for the next exodus that results from the argument over this quote.

Jesustittyfuckingchrist, where does one even begin in tearing into that quote?

He MAY like it more now, he knows that he has to SAY he likes it now, he certainly didn't like it then, and trying to gloss that contradiction over by casually using "pretty cool" rather than more respectful, formal praise is nauseating
(He should have classily admitted that he had problems with it at the time, or at least been neutral regarding his past opinions of it, rather than patronizingly expecting us to not know fact from fiction. More casual fans may swallow it.
Whatever goodwill he has built up recently with good behavior is greatly compromised by this bullmerda quote.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2011, 01:25:48 PM »

Whether or not there's actually more session material in the deluxe set's 4 CDs than the regular's 2 will be the determining factor for me because of current budgetary restrictions. If that's the case then mountains will have to be moved!
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2011, 01:28:46 PM »

I happily bought the Springsteen mega set (only $80 for the Blu-ray version - definitely worth it), but couldn't stomach the Dylan set - way too expensive for what you got. Obviously I'll buy the SMiLE mega set, but it seems like the vinyl should have been issued separately.

Regarding additional material on the 4-CD set: how could there not be more session material with this edition?
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2011, 01:31:25 PM »


Regarding additional material on the 4-CD set: how could there not be more session material with this edition?

Endless versions of Mike in the studio complaining he doesn't understand about the crows and the cornfield...( studio chatter)
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2011, 01:34:19 PM »

I almost think the vinyl is simply in there to 1.) make the package physically larger and 2.) to jack up the price.

But hey -- it would have been a record in the 1960s. Maybe that's the way to think about it.

I think there absolutely will be extra session material in the 4-CD version. How could there not be?

I think of it this way --

Disc 1.) Mono mix of a BWPS-ish sequence.

Disc 2.) Alternate mixes and extra fragments, along with demos and other songs that don't "fit" the main sequence. Maybe a few stereo remixes.

Discs 3-4.) Track by track studio sessions. Maybe some vocals-only mixes.

I would almost put money on this general division.
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2011, 01:37:00 PM »

What's intriguing here is that "Cabinessence" will now have to appear in mono for the first time!
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2011, 01:42:59 PM »

Than I suppose that this will be it:

The double CD:
Disc 1: A 'finished' Smile
Disc 2: Best of the sessions

Box set:
CD's: Obviously the 'finished' album, plus I guess three sessions/stack-o-vocals/alternate versions discs like in the Pet Sounds Sessions box
LP's: The double CD on vinyl
Singles: Either 45 rpm versions of the new GV and H&V (78 rpm) singles, or reproductions of the original singles
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 01:45:30 PM »

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Of the music Mike Love has said, “I like the avant-garde approach and stretching the limits the way Brian (Wilson) did. It went beyond conventional music at the time, and I kind of thought that was pretty cool. “
Oh, I'm waiting for the next exodus that results from the argument over this quote.
Jesustittyfuckingchrist, where does one even begin in tearing into that quote?

Thinking something is cool and liking it can be two different things? Shrug I mean, I think Mac OS X is cool, but I don't like it. Afro
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2011, 01:46:53 PM »

What's intriguing here is that "Cabinessence" will now have to appear in mono for the first time!

O.K. I'm quoting myself, but I'm excited...

What happens with "Surf's Up"? Will it simply be the Brian solo version or will it be a newly-mixed version combining material recorded in '71, again in mono for the first time?
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2011, 01:51:59 PM »

To suck up all our available disposable income, that's why. If they make it, then we'll buy it and they know it.

SO:  I'm in for one, maybe two copies of the deluxe edition.  
What is everyone else going to do when they have to buy vinyl with their beloved CDs?
Surely NOT play the Vinyl....
Hey, I'm in for one too. I was just stating the obvious. I need to dispose my disposable income on something. I just bought a brand new cartridge and stylus for my turntable. It will get at least one play before being put away.
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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2011, 01:54:05 PM »

What's intriguing here is that "Cabinessence" will now have to appear in mono for the first time!

O.K. I'm quoting myself, but I'm excited...

What happens with "Surf's Up"? Will it simply be the Brian solo version or will it be a newly-mixed version combining material recorded in '71, again in mono for the first time?

The release is called The Smile Sessions, not The Smile (and a little bit of Surf's Up) Sessions.  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2011, 01:56:48 PM »

This is what I waited to see everday on this board.... if Capitol wants my $$, they will get it...
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2011, 01:56:55 PM »

I would bet that deluxe Smile edition costs somewhere between $200 and $300.

I'll take that bet. Say, $50 ?  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2011, 02:02:39 PM »

I would bet that deluxe Smile edition costs somewhere between $200 and $300.

I'll definitely buy one no matter what the cost, but I do work for a living  Undecided

I'm sure it will be worth it though....Vinyls, a hardcover book, CDs....I really can't wait Head Spin
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2011, 02:03:57 PM »

I would bet that deluxe Smile edition costs somewhere between $200 and $300.

I'll take that bet. Say, $50 ?  Smiley

I'd put my $ on between $100 and $150
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