SMiLE Sessions box set!

[Shady]

Friday the 28th of October 3pm, I will walk out of JB Hi-fi with the two cd set.

Friday the 28th of October 9:05am, I will walk out of Tower Records with the two cd set.

 

[Runaways]

what is that piano at 48 heroes and villains part 2 (stereo)  was that just one of the players playing something?

[Camus]

I have to admit, after being blown away with listening to the track snippets, I was a bit disappointed with IIGS and Barnyard.  I had hoped that Mark might be able to mask the piano from the Humble Harv demo more than he has, I guess the technology just isn't there at the moment to be able to seperate the piano from the vocal more.

[Mikie]

Right you are...tell me is it just my browser that goes schizo when I reach a certain number of lines? I cannot see a thing I type thus  the numerous errors. Even this addition has been typed blind and its damned annoying having top go in and correct stuff I cant even see.

If you upgrade to M.S. Explorer 9, that problem will go away.

[Micha]

While at first I was happy to see Phil unbanned and was interested what he had to say now, I was again put off from his negativity. Rebanning him would be ok with me.

BUT...

Remember: The names you call someone return to you.

[stack-o-tracks]

While at first I was happy to see Phil unbanned and was interested what he had to say now, I was again put off from his negativity. Rebanning him would be ok with me.

BUT...

Remember: The names you call someone return to you.

whatever you say, richest and sexiest man in the world.

[Shady]

While at first I was happy to see Phil unbanned and was interested what he had to say now, I was again put off from his negativity. Rebanning him would be ok with me.

BUT...

Remember: The names you call someone return to you.

whatever you say, richest and sexiest man in the world.

 

[homeontherange]

When will it leak!??? I need it to leak today so that I can listen to ONE of the discs at work. Then I'll wait til' I get the box.

[monicker]

I have to admit, after being blown away with listening to the track snippets, I was a bit disappointed with IIGS and Barnyard.  I had hoped that Mark might be able to mask the piano from the Humble Harv demo more than he has, I guess the technology just isn't there at the moment to be able to seperate the piano from the vocal more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaX52GbjSU

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Friday the 28th of October 3pm, I will walk out of JB Hi-fi with the two cd set.

Friday the 28th of October 9:05am, I will walk out of Tower Records with the two cd set.

 

Fingers crossed, tomorrow at 6pm my dad will walk in the door with teh 5CD set 

As a point, probably due to Capitol's lack of promotion, the shop do not know the price yet!

[Jay]

I've been listening to the HMV clips, and I just have to say, I AM SO DAMN EXCITED!!!!!   Is this actually happening? It's not just a weird dream? I was just reading the 1990 Smiley Smile/Wild Honey twofer notes, and I kept thinking how weird it is that only 15-20 years ago, a Smile box was absolutely impossible to the extreme.

[theCOD]

The only thing really bugging me is the out of place CE vocals in the second chorus. You can hear them clearly in the sample on HMV. I didn't even notice until someone pointed them out, but now it's hard to ignore. I can't imagine how they could have been placed there on accident, yet can't imagine why anyone would do it intentionally.

Other than that, I'm thrilled about this release. I didn't expect any miracles from Barnyard or IIGS. I'm used to hearing them on fan mixes and these sound better than any I've heard.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Right you are...tell me is it just my browser that goes schizo when I reach a certain number of lines? I cannot see a thing I type thus  the numerous errors. Even this addition has been typed blind and its damned annoying having top go in and correct stuff I cant even see.

If you upgrade to M.S. Explorer 9, that problem will go away.

Been using Firefox for years, no problems.

[Dunderhead]

The only thing really bugging me is the out of place CE vocals in the second chorus. You can hear them clearly in the sample on HMV. I didn't even notice until someone pointed them out, but now it's hard to ignore. I can't imagine how they could have been placed there on accident, yet can't imagine why anyone would do it intentionally.

Other than that, I'm thrilled about this release. I didn't expect any miracles from Barnyard or IIGS. I'm used to hearing them on fan mixes and these sound better than any I've heard.

Mr. Negativity.

More tempted to listen to the samples, should I? I don't know if I can wait.

[Jay]

Does anyone know if the weird slide guitar overdub on Do You Like Worms will be included?

[over and over]

More tempted to listen to the samples, should I? I don't know if I can wait.

I'm telling you dude, ITS SO MUCH BETTER WITH FRESH EARS. I've been going bout 4 months now (except for the new "Vegetables" mix of course).
I'm not paying $140 for TSS just to have it be spoiled. (I did listen to "Teeter Totter Love" though). 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Does anyone know if the weird slide guitar overdub on Do You Like Worms will be included?

Yes, I do... but it would spoil the surprise. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

The only thing really bugging me is the out of place CE vocals in the second chorus. You can hear them clearly in the sample on HMV. I didn't even notice until someone pointed them out, but now it's hard to ignore. I can't imagine how they could have been placed there on accident, yet can't imagine why anyone would do it intentionally.

Other than that, I'm thrilled about this release. I didn't expect any miracles from Barnyard or IIGS. I'm used to hearing them on fan mixes and these sound better than any I've heard.

Mr. Negativity.

More tempted to listen to the samples, should I? I don't know if I can wait.

The samples are like looking at a small corner of an IMAX movie. 

[buddhahat]

what is that piano at 48 heroes and villains part 2 (stereo)  was that just one of the players playing something?

It's the piece that was being discussed a few weeks ago. To me it sounds reminiscent of BW's favourite bit from Rhapsody In Blue, and also sounds like a prototype to Western Theme, but could be an entirely separate section that never went anywhere. If you listen closely you can here the boys singing a vocal accompaniement. I'm so pleased this section is on the box - it's a beautiful snippet.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

 

what is that piano at 48 heroes and villains part 2 (stereo)  was that just one of the players playing something?

It's the piece that was being discussed a few weeks ago. To me it sounds reminiscent of BW's favourite bit from Rhapsody In Blue, and also sounds like a prototype to Western Theme, but could be an entirely separate section that never went anywhere. If you listen closely you can here the boys singing a vocal accompaniement. I'm so pleased this section is on the box - it's a beautiful snippet.

I used the bad quality boot of this section in my non-completed H&V fanmix. It fits in well into a variety oif places.

[UK_Surf]

I have to admit, after being blown away with listening to the track snippets, I was a bit disappointed with IIGS and Barnyard.  I had hoped that Mark might be able to mask the piano from the Humble Harv demo more than he has, I guess the technology just isn't there at the moment to be able to seperate the piano from the vocal more.

OK - the technology to 'separate' multiple audio sources from a single recording will never exist. Holywood and CSI portrayals of the contrary are fantasy. You can mask or emphasise multiple audio signals, but if they intersect at the same moment in time on a recording and haven't been multitracked, the separation can never be complete.

So in the case of Smile or other musical archeology it becomes a conceptual and production  - i.e. creative - rather than technical problem. We need to reserve judgement until the official release, but based on my initial listen, conceptually, I prefer Jon Hunt's fan mix. Not that the audio quality was better - it wasn't - but his idea of leading with the Humble Harv demo, and then enhancing that core track by poking that cheeky sax line (easier to isolate that, than to de-emphasise the piano) through as a decoration, rather than trying to approximate a finished Smile track with a balanced vocal/track mix, made for a better listening experience imo. Taking that approach with the current track, and letting the intrumental track take over after the transitional echoplex feedback, would have worked more realistically with the limitations in my view.

That said, what ML & AB have achieved with the available material is staggering, and I'll reserve judgement til I hear it.

But I do expect strong opinions on IIGS - it's listed on the orignian Smile album slick and discoveries surrounding this track were among the major exciting breakthroughs in Smile research conducted on the ol' Smile Shop board. Delighted to have it in whatever form, but robust debate has always been a big part of enjoying this material, so people shouldn't take offence if production decisions are examined in a respectful way. On the contrary, it's a massive tip o' the hat!

[buddhahat]

I have to admit, after being blown away with listening to the track snippets, I was a bit disappointed with IIGS and Barnyard.  I had hoped that Mark might be able to mask the piano from the Humble Harv demo more than he has, I guess the technology just isn't there at the moment to be able to seperate the piano from the vocal more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUaX52GbjSU

But doesn't isolating the vocals rely on you also having the same track without vocals? I have absolutely no idea about this technology, so please excuse my ignorance, but as I understand it you kind of sync one track up that doesn't have the vocals and it allows you to isolate the vocals in the other track. With this Harv demo I find it hard to believe the piano could be removed without seriously compromising the vocals. If it's possible I'd love to hear someone do it. Until then, I'll remain skeptical.

OK - the technology to 'separate' multiple audio sources from a single recording will never exist. Holywood and CSI portrayals of the contrary are fantasy. You can mask or emphasise multiple audio signals, but if they intersect at the same moment in time on a recording and haven't been multitracked, the separation can never be complete.

So in the case of Smile or other musical archeology it becomes conceptual and production problem. We need to reserve jusgement until the official release, but based on my initial listen, conceptually, I prefer Jon Hunt's mix. Not that the audio quality was better - it wasn't - but his idea of leading with the Humble Harv demo, and then enhancing that core track by poking that cheeky sax line (easier to isolate that, than to de-emphasise the piano) through as a decoration, rather than trying to approximate a finished Smile track with a balanced vocal/track mix, made for a better listening experience imo. Taking that approach with the current track, and letting the intrumental track take over after the transitional echoplex feedback, would have worked more realistically with the limitations in my view.

That said, what ML & AB have achieved with the available material is staggering, and I'll reserve judgement til I hear it.

But I do expect strong opinions on IIGS - it's listed on the album slick and discoveries surrounding this track were among the major exciting breakthroughs in Smile research conducted on the ol' Smile Shop board. Delighted to have it in whatever form, but robust debate has always been a big part of enjoying this material, so people shouldn't take offence if production decisions are examined in a respectful way. On the contrary, it's a massive tip o' the hat!

Edit: Looks like somebody ^^^ a little more clued up beat me to it!

[UK_Surf]

Edit: Looks like somebody ^^^ a little more clued up beat me to it!
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A bit of studio experience mate, but nowhere near as much as many on this board (who I hope will correct me if I've blundered!).

[homeontherange]

I like the Barnyard mix, but IIGS is rather sloppy. Brian's vocals aren't synced to the backing track that well. And the quick fading out of the vocals is REALLY sloppy. But I guess I'll try to mix one myself with the backing track in better quality.

[Andrew G. Doe]

The "Harv" demo is mono (precisely, it was recorded in mono), thus removing the piano isn't a possibility.