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junkbondtrader
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Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM »
Hello All
I recently bought some Beach Boys LPs from a cousin of mine. I bought the albums: Love You, Shut Down Volume 2, Carl and the Passions: So Tough, The Beach Boys In Concert and Surf's Up.
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
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December 07, 2010, 10:50:44 AM »
That was how it was released in the USA. Even the radio promos for the album list it as a double album pairing the two.
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bgas
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December 07, 2010, 11:06:48 AM »
Quote from: junkbondtrader on December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
Pet Sounds was a "bonus" disc, and WB planned to release each successive new BB release with a bonus LP; but sales weren't what they expected, so they dropped the idea, and released the other Capitol post-Pet Sounds LPs( which they had the rigfhts to at the time) as double LPs instead.
Wild Honey/20-20 and Friends/Smiley Smile
I doubt WB or the BBs made much $$ off the reissues.
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Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again
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Re: Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 11:52:21 AM »
Wasn't Pet Sounds out of print at the time of CATP?
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December 07, 2010, 11:54:03 AM »
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: junkbondtrader on December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
Pet Sounds was a "bonus" disc, and WB planned to release each successive new BB release with a bonus LP; but sales weren't what they expected, so they dropped the idea, and released the other Capitol post-Pet Sounds LPs( which they had the rigfhts to at the time) as double LPs instead.
Wild Honey/20-20 and Friends/Smiley Smile
I doubt WB or the BBs made much $$ off the reissues.
Mmmmmm, dunno... in the wake of
Endless Summer
the
WH-20/20
made #50 and lasted 11 weeks on the chart, while the other one managed #125 and six weeks, and aside from a new package, can't imagine there were many other costs.
When the band signed to Reprise, they took the rights to all the post-1965 studio albums with them, plus
Smile
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bgas
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Re: Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 12:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 07, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: junkbondtrader on December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
Pet Sounds was a "bonus" disc, and WB planned to release each successive new BB release with a bonus LP; but sales weren't what they expected, so they dropped the idea, and released the other Capitol post-Pet Sounds LPs( which they had the rigfhts to at the time) as double LPs instead.
Wild Honey/20-20 and Friends/Smiley Smile
I doubt WB or the BBs made much $$ off the reissues.
Mmmmmm, dunno... in the wake of
Endless Summer
the
WH-20/20
made #50 and lasted 11 weeks on the chart, while the other one managed #125 and six weeks, and aside from a new package, can't imagine there were many other costs.
When the band signed to Reprise, they took the rights to all the post-1965 studio albums with them, plus
Smile
.
So based on what you know of their royalties package at the time, what would you suppose the BBs realized?
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Re: Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 01:24:10 PM »
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 07, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: junkbondtrader on December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
Pet Sounds was a "bonus" disc, and WB planned to release each successive new BB release with a bonus LP; but sales weren't what they expected, so they dropped the idea, and released the other Capitol post-Pet Sounds LPs( which they had the rigfhts to at the time) as double LPs instead.
Wild Honey/20-20 and Friends/Smiley Smile
I doubt WB or the BBs made much $$ off the reissues.
Mmmmmm, dunno... in the wake of
Endless Summer
the
WH-20/20
made #50 and lasted 11 weeks on the chart, while the other one managed #125 and six weeks, and aside from a new package, can't imagine there were many other costs.
When the band signed to Reprise, they took the rights to all the post-1965 studio albums with them, plus
Smile
.
So based on what you know of their royalties package at the time, what would you suppose the BBs realized?
Oh... buck fifty or so.
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bgas
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Re: Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 01:36:38 PM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 07, 2010, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on December 07, 2010, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: bgas on December 07, 2010, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: junkbondtrader on December 07, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
The Surfs Up has a Brothers Records poster in it, but my question is the Carl and the Passions album is a twofer with Pet Sounds. I had never seen this before or heard that they did this. Did they think Carl and the Passions was going to bomb so they added another album with it or was this done later after it was released?
Pet Sounds was a "bonus" disc, and WB planned to release each successive new BB release with a bonus LP; but sales weren't what they expected, so they dropped the idea, and released the other Capitol post-Pet Sounds LPs( which they had the rigfhts to at the time) as double LPs instead.
Wild Honey/20-20 and Friends/Smiley Smile
I doubt WB or the BBs made much $$ off the reissues.
Mmmmmm, dunno... in the wake of
Endless Summer
the
WH-20/20
made #50 and lasted 11 weeks on the chart, while the other one managed #125 and six weeks, and aside from a new package, can't imagine there were many other costs.
When the band signed to Reprise, they took the rights to all the post-1965 studio albums with them, plus
Smile
.
So based on what you know of their royalties package at the time, what would you suppose the BBs realized?
Oh... buck fifty or so.
Well, Wiki said 2 bucks, but I guess that's close enough.
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c-man
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Re: Carl and the Passions LP question.
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December 07, 2010, 05:07:20 PM »
Quote from: Erik H on December 07, 2010, 11:52:21 AM
Wasn't Pet Sounds out of print at the time of CATP?
Yes, so the twofer with So Tough was the only way to buy a new copy, until '74 when Warners released a stand-alone reissue of Pet Sounds.
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