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Quote from: TheOther Anonymous on May 30, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
I think the issue with Stamos is why that song? The BBs had any number of bad songs that anyone with real musical talent could try to improve on.
Why not that song? Maybe he liked it or something? Is "Forever" like some ancient prayer that only high holy men can say? If you had the opportunity to sing a lead vocal on a Beach Boys album, would you pick one of the "bad songs..." to sing? Hey, The Beach Boys have just as much musical talent as the next band, and they sang a few clunkers. So, you suppose John Stamos should have taken on "Battle Hymn Of The Republic"? He probably sang it to pay homage to Dennis. As it turned out, "Forever" & "Surfin'" were the two songs that included Dennis & Brian on "Summer In Paradise".
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Quote from: tpesky on May 30, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
I can't give Stamos that much credit personally, the passion and heart when Dennis gave an all out performance is something Stamos can't match style with.
Maybe, Stamos was going for a different interpretation and feel than what Dennis was going for. Dennis went acoustic and tugged at the heart strings, whereas Stamos went electric and made it more of a power pop love song. I'm glad that he did not give us a Dennis impersonation or Dennis style remake.
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I think Stamos' heart was in the right place, and he made the song accessible to the people who would listen to it because he sang on it. Moreover, I think representing Dennis on an album like SIP was in some ways a very gracious move.
Artistically, yeah, it's kind of a trainwreck, but for the reasons above, I have absolutely no problem with it.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on May 31, 2010, 12:03:27 PM
Quote from: TheOther Anonymous on May 30, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
I think the issue with Stamos is why that song? The BBs had any number of bad songs that anyone with real musical talent could try to improve on.
Why not that song?
If it isn't broken, why fix it?
What did Stamos do to improve the song? This applies to any artist and they bring it on themselves if they do a cover and only a few have managed to pull it off. Joe Cocker with 'With a Little Help from My Friends'. The covers in SIP offer nothing IMO. Hell, they couldn't even improve on the very basic original 'Surfin'.
Perhaps AGD and John Tobler say it best in their SIP comments.(from Wiki) In their book "The Beach Boys and Brian Wilson: The Complete Guide to Their Music", Andrew G. Doe and John Tobler call the album "the absolute nadir of their recording career", "pointless, vapid and soulless" and "utterly disposable" (the latter in reference to the songs)
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Point one: They didn't remake it to fix it. Do you think the original needed fixing? Bands don't remake songs to fix them. This was a homage to Dennis, most likely.
Point Two: Joe Cocker's version of "With A Little Help From My Friends" is good, but not an improvement over the original. Remakes need only be different, not always improved, to be good.
Point Three: Andrew's entitled to his opinion; that is what he does when he writes books on The Beach Boys. I agree with most them, but not all. SIP has grown on me through the years. I like it now, I didn't then, so sue me (Mike would). Stars & Stripes is more "pointless, vapid and soulless" to me, and I'm sure others will think not. I'll take SIP over that stinker any day of the week.
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On Stage As It Is In Studio,
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Just a quick thought: I find a lot of the music produced since SIP was released to have that same sterile type of sound to them. Maybe, that is why SIP has grown on me over the last 18 years. It sounds definitely of it's times.
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Had Stamos made his own album then "Forever' may have been judged in a more positive light. His mistake was singing it on a Beach Boys album. A decision was made to milk his celebrity status at the time. Think about it....The concept beggers belief. A piece of eye candy added as a novelty. In addition he is front and centre in both the Kokomo and from the SIP album 'Hot Fun in the Summertime' videos. Fluff!
Reading the reviews when the album came out, I can not recall one reviewer seeing any reason for him to be on that album singing a lead.
Justin Beiber joining U2 on their next album doing a remake of 'Even Better Than The Real Thing' anyone?
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He's not eye candy to me. I'm glad that you think so. "The concept beggers belief"? I have no idea what that even means. "Fluff!" Me thinks that you just either envy John Stamos or you have some kind of axe to grind against him. Face it, The Beach Boys as a band wanted him sing lead on "Forever" and to participate in their videos. Just for you, I'm calling Mr. Peabody and Sherman to get their Way Back Machine so you can knock some sense in to those Boys'. ;-)
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And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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May 31, 2010, 10:07:28 PM »
Well those boys always showed good judgement at the time. Care to discuss the Fatboys?
Stamos is good looking, rich, has great hair and sang with the Beach Boys including Brian, Carl and Al. What is there to like about the guy?
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on May 28, 2010, 10:02:26 PM
Quote from: Rerun on May 26, 2010, 03:48:30 PM
As much as I love them, the Beach Boys' music is ripe for horrendous, corny covers. In the spirit of the American Idol finale tonight, I present to you my nominee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAf4xBRawVU
Jesus foda, that was absolutely horrendous and offensive.
Agreed! First of all I laughed but by the end all the humor had gone out of the situation. That BOMP! BOMP! sound was Carl and Dennis rolling over in their graves!
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Mike and Brian's cut of Be My Baby on Looking back With Love
I used to think the cover of Blueberry Hill was terrible, but I love it now.
is this just released stuff?
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"Bluebirds Over The Mountain". Hands down!
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"Barbara-f******-Ann"
Not because it's actually
bad
... it's just there at every turn.
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Quote from: punkinhead on June 03, 2010, 09:49:41 PM
Mike and Brian's cut of Be My Baby on Looking back With Love
I used to think the cover of Blueberry Hill was terrible, but I love it now.
is this just released stuff?
Hell, no - we're big boys, we can mention The Music That Dare Not Speak Its Name.
In which case, "Battle Hymn Of The Republic" - when Alan Jardine thinks something isn't that good, well...
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 04, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
"Barbara-f******-Ann"
Not because it's actually
bad
... it's just there at every turn.
Ask my one-year-old daughter what noise sheep make?
"Baa-baa-baa, baa-baa-ba-baa..."!
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 04, 2010, 01:32:25 AM
Quote from: punkinhead on June 03, 2010, 09:49:41 PM
Mike and Brian's cut of Be My Baby on Looking back With Love
I used to think the cover of Blueberry Hill was terrible, but I love it now.
is this just released stuff?
Hell, no - we're big boys, we can mention The Music That Dare Not Speak Its Name.
In which case, "Battle Hymn Of The Republic" - when Alan Jardine thinks something isn't that good, well...
I think that one falls under the so-bad-it's-good category...
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 04, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
"Barbara-f******-Ann"
Not because it's actually
bad
... it's just there at every turn.
How do you respond when Brian starts it up at everyone concert? Do you clap and sing along, or stand there with a big frown on your face, arms folded going "this sucks"
I do wish they'd give it a rest.
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Quote from: Luther on May 29, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
As a longtime Stamos-backer, I applaud this post. Sure, Full House was fucktarded. But is that a reason to hate the guy? You're aware it was a job, right? That Uncle Jesse is a character? If you're going to hate someone from those days, hate Dave Coulier. I know I do. foda you, Dave Coulier.
Uncle Jesse
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Quote from: tpesky on May 30, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
Quote from: TheOther Anonymous on May 30, 2010, 04:05:46 PM
Another point. Stamos sings in the same vocal style as Dennis did. I wouldn't have had a problem with him doing 'Holy Man' if Taylor Hawkins hadn't got the gig first.
I can't give Stamos that much credit personally, the passion and heart when Dennis gave an all out performance is something Stamos can't match style with.
At least Stamos recognizes a good song when he hears it. And considering that "Forever" was all but forgotten when he started singing it on
Full House
, I give him credit for trying to get that song out to the public. Would you have preferred him singing "This Car Of Mine" on all those episodes instead?
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on June 04, 2010, 01:29:25 AM
"Barbara-f******-Ann"
Not because it's actually
bad
... it's just there at every turn.
I agree. The grandaddy of obnoxious BB covers. But the thing is, to those fans who know only 20 or so BB songs, it always brings them to their feet clapping at the shows, both Mike and Brian shows.
By the way, does Al still cover this?
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Afraid so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuAnRendMXA
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Quote from: TheOther Anonymous on May 31, 2010, 03:04:01 PM
What did Stamos do to improve the song? This applies to any artist and they bring it on themselves if they do a cover and only a few have managed to pull it off. Joe Cocker with 'With a Little Help from My Friends'.
Holy jumpin' Jesus, speak for yourself. Cannot stand that version, especially in comparison to the original.
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Quote from: Luther on May 29, 2010, 12:26:35 PM
As a longtime Stamos-backer, I applaud this post. Sure, Full House was fucktarded. But is that a reason to hate the guy? You're aware it was a job, right? That Uncle Jesse is a character? If you're going to hate someone from those days, hate Dave Coulier. I know I do. foda you, Dave Coulier.
It was a job, sure, but you know that it was done at Stamos' suggestion. And then Stamos was playing the song on an actual Beach Boys record. And then he was playing shows with them. Etc. etc. etc.
I can see almost every side of this argument that people have posted in this thread, but I'm certainly not a fan of the new "80s stadium rock" arrangement of it (that Mike and Bruce STILL use in their live show) and I lean more toward thinking it a bad thing than a good thing.
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You consider that an actual Beach Boys record?
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You consider that an actual Beach Boys record?
Touché, Mr.Luther
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