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slippingonthrough
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Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
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I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album. So I'd thought I'd make a tracklist of what I'd thought would work well.
I opened with Sail On Sailor. It then goes into Here She Comes. It slows down with Only With You then picks pace up again with Funky Pretty. Side 2 begins with the rocking Marcella. It then has the 3-part California Saga followed by Hold On Dear Brother. Side 3 and record 2 begins with You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone. It then slows down for Steamboat before going into He Come Down. The side finishes with Leavin' This Town. Side Four begins with the last fast song The Trader. It then has the CATP ballads to end.
Carl and the Passions: Holland
1. Sail On Sailor
2. Here She Comes
3. Only With You
4. Funky Pretty
5. Marcella
6. California Saga: Big Sur
7. Beaks Of Eagles
8. California
9. Hold On Dear Brother
10. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
11. Steamboat
12. He Come Down
13. Leavin’ This Town
14. The Trader
15. Make It Good
16. All This Is That
17. Cuddle Up
It's kinda like The Beach Boys' White Album. What would be your order?
Alternate List with unreleased tracks
1. Sail On Sailor
2. Here She Comes
3. Only With You
4. Funky Pretty
5.
Hard Times
6. Marcella
7. California Saga: Big Sur
8. Beaks Of Eagles
9. California
10.
We Got Love
11. You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
12. Hold On Dear Brother
13. Steamboat
14. He Come Down
15. Leavin’ This Town
16. The Trader
17. Make It Good
18.
Carry Me Home
19. All This Is That
20. Cuddle Up
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bluesno1fann
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March 19, 2014, 11:27:30 PM »
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!
Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.
What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?
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March 19, 2014, 11:29:41 PM »
Yep, that's pretty great running order. My only change would be to put Steamboat somewhere else, it's too slow to come after a rocker one. We got love would fit perfectly somewhere there.
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Quote from: Jarhead on March 19, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!
Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.
What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?
I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: Jarhead on March 19, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!
Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.
What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?
I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.
What are you waiting for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGk8xAHHDw
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bluesno1fann
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Quote from: Disney Boy (1985) on March 19, 2014, 11:47:53 PM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 11:45:06 PM
Quote from: Jarhead on March 19, 2014, 11:27:30 PM
An very interesting double album you've created, Brad!
Personally, I would have excluded some of the weaker tracks from the two albums (One from CATP and two from Holland), and added We Got Love, Hard Times, and Carry Me Home.
What are your thoughts on that, would you have added the three unreleased tracks from that era?
I forgot about the unreleased tracks. I would put We Got Love on there somewhere. Haven't heard the other two.
What are you waiting for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrGk8xAHHDw
And of course:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bV4xsbTZik
Can't forget Hard Times
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Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.
Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here
Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0
Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY
It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U
Barnyard Blues
Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!
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Quote from: Jarhead on March 20, 2014, 12:45:35 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.
Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here
Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0
Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY
It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U
Barnyard Blues
Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!
Imagine if they recorded It's A New Day for Wild Honey! That would be the best.
Barnyard Blues is from 1974 so I wouldn't include it. It's A New Day doesn't really fit the mood of the album. Out In The Country isn't finished.
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bluesno1fann
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:52:11 AM
Quote from: Jarhead on March 20, 2014, 12:45:35 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 20, 2014, 12:35:55 AM
Hard Times is awesome (except for the first 2 seconds).
Carry Me Home is bit strange. I need to listen to it more.
Hmm... I love the first two seconds of Hard Times. Guess things really are subjective around here
Yeah, agreed with Carry Me Home. It's only just starting to (and slowly) growing on me. Would love to see an updated tracklisting of the double album of yours with the three songs and possibly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p0lpuPeoe0
Out In The Country
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le0_YoktZjY
It's A New Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_YPbvFpB4U
Barnyard Blues
Now that would make for an awesome definitive Chaplin-Fataar era double album!
Imagine if they recorded It's A New Day for Wild Honey! That would be the best.
Barnyard Blues is from 1974 so I wouldn't include it. It's A New Day doesn't really fit the mood of the album. Out In The Country isn't finished.
To be fair, none of them are finished (Especially Carry Me Home), including the first 3 I mentioned (except We Got Love).
You may have a point with Barnyard Blues, though I mentioned it so you include every song made during the Chaplin/Fataar era. I think It's A New Day does fit in, and CATP and Holland aren't the most cohesive BB's album's made
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Aw man, Vacation's over already? It seemed REALLY short
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Some said it wouldn't last
All we can say is we're still having a blast
Spring vacation, good vibrations
Summer weather, we're back together
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I'd remove Beaks of Eagles, Here She Comes, and Make It Good.
Add It's a New Day, Hard Times, We Got Love, Carry Me Home.
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I have made my own that I've stuck with for several years:
1. Sail on Sailor
2. Marcella
3. Hold On Dear Brother
4. Trader
5. All This is That
6. Funky Pretty
7. Here She Comes
8. A Mess of Help
9. Leaving this Town
10. Carry Me Home
11. Big Sur
12. Beaks of Eagles
13. California
14. Steam Boat
15. Fourth of July
16. Mt Vernon and Fairway
(Gap to surprise track...)
17. He Come Down
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Nice order but I'd would keep Cuddle Up on there.
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 21, 2014, 10:39:54 PM
Nice order but I'd would keep Cuddle Up on there.
I wonder if the BBs ever considered releasing a double studio album of new material, at any point in their career. SMiLE's potential running length notwithstanding, of course. I think Carl and the Passions and Holland would have been pretty rad.
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The Beach Boys - Sail On Sailor
Side 1
01 Sail On Sailor
02 The Trader
03 California Saga: Big Sur
04 California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles
05 California Saga: California
06 Funky But Pretty
Side 2
07 You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
08 Marcella
09 Only With You
10 All This Is That
11 Cuddle Up
If Side 2 drags a little bit at the end, flip-flop "Marcella" and "Only With You", but, lyrically I think it works better sequenced the other way.
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.
Carl & The Passions originally was a double album.
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One rock oriented "songs" album and one concept album
(I would leave "Cuddle Up" and "Make It Good" off the album for a solo Dennis Wilson LP)
Side 1
01 Sail On, Sailor
02 Here She Comes
03 All This Is That
04 Hard Times
05 Funky Pretty
Side 2
06 You Need A Mess Of Help To Stand Alone
07 We Got Love
08 Marcella
09 Hold On Dear Brother
10 Carry Me Home
Side 3
11 The Trader
12 Steamboat
13 California Saga: Big Sur
14 California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles
15 California Saga: California
Side 4
16 Mt. Vernon and Fairway Theme
17 I'm The Pied Piper (instrumental)
18 Better Get Back In Bed
19 Magic Transistor Radio
20 I'm The Pied Piper
21 Radio King Dom
pretty amazing double album!
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Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 22, 2014, 06:37:27 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.
Carl & The Passions originally was a double album.
It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.
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Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 23, 2014, 11:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 22, 2014, 06:37:27 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.
Carl & The Passions originally was a double album.
It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.
What?
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Re: Carl and the Passions and Holland as a double album
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Quote from: Woodstock on March 24, 2014, 04:58:40 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 23, 2014, 11:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sheriff John Stone on March 22, 2014, 06:37:27 AM
Quote from: slippingonthrough on March 19, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
I was thinking that Carl and the Passions and Holland could probably work well as a double album.
Carl & The Passions originally was a double album.
It's a shame that an album with God Only Knows, Wouldn't It Be Nice and Caroline, No doesn't get the respect it deserves around here.
What?
The album was initially packaged with Pet Sounds (at least in some places). I believe it was actually advertised as Pet Sounds with CATP as a bonus album.
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I know about that, I actually have a 1972 press of CATP + Pet Sounds. What I didn't understand was the comment about Pet Sounds not getting respect 'around here'
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