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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2009, 03:01:19 PM »

The story I read of the Lennon/D. Wilson meeting(somewhere...maybe here?) was that they met in the late sixties at a restaurant. Dennis introduced himself and John Lennon made a joke about a commercial for a company called Wilson that was airing a lot in LA and that he had seen. Dennis got offended or hurt or something and walked off.

Later, in the seventies, probably with May Peng, they met again and Lennon told Dennis that he had only been joking at the first meeting--but Dennis had no memory of the first meeting whatsoever.

Yeah, that's close. I thought both meetings took place in the 70s when Lennon was living in L.A. with May Pang (which is why she recounts the story), but I could be wrong. One of the encounters happened at the Troubabour, I think. Lennon's comment upon first meeting Wilson was along the lines of "I've always liked your coats" ostensibly referring to an L.A. clothing store named "House of Wilson" (although a quick internet search reveals that the royal "House of Wilson" had a popular "coat of arms" which could have been what Lennon was referring to - can any of the British fans comment?); Wilson was mystified and thought he was being snubbed. Lennon felt guilty enough about possibly offending Wilson that he apologized for the joke the next time they met, but Wilson had no recollection of it at all.

You're probably right, about both meetings taking place in the seventies.  Dennis himself told me the story of being snubbed by him, however, the place Lennon referenced was called "Wilson's House of Suede", as I recall. 
Howie recently told me the May Pang story, which took place, (if memory serves me), at a restaurant up in Malibu.  I didn't hear this one from Dennis, but it makes sense that there were these two different meetings between them.


I find it odd that the Beach Boys and Beatles didn't become good friends (except for Brian and Paul). Didn't the Beatles move to LA in the mid 60s?
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2009, 04:30:44 PM »

The Lennon story essentially was that May informed John that Dennis was approaching them at a restaurant (late '73/early '74) and hipped him to the fact that it was Dennis. Lennon immediately got up, extended his hand and said "Dennis, I love your music." According to her, Dennis was beside himself. It was was Jesse Ed Davis that made the crack about the "House of Suede."

An even cooler recollection of May's is during Ricci Martin's 21st when an obese and loaded Brian was making a beeline towards them, with her whispering in Lennon's ear, "Brian Wilson -- Dennis Wilson's brother from the Beach Boys -- is walking towards you." Lennon turns and looks and asks, shocked, "HIM???"

Brian saunters up and utters the immortal line, "Hey man, got any reds?"

Lennon apologises at not being able to help him out and two ships pass in the night.


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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2009, 06:06:18 PM »

I find it odd that the Beach Boys and Beatles didn't become good friends (except for Brian and Paul). Didn't the Beatles move to LA in the mid 60s?

No.
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2009, 10:03:42 PM »

I find it odd that the Beach Boys and Beatles didn't become good friends (except for Brian and Paul). Didn't the Beatles move to LA in the mid 60s?

No.

Well, maybe they should have...Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: February 23, 2009, 07:35:15 AM »

Actually George Harrison was trying to get the Beatles to move out to San Francisco. But after he went out there himself and saw that it was a looney bin he quickly changed his mind.
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« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2009, 10:51:03 AM »

It should be noted that these were probably not the only meetings-for example when the BBs played the Paris show in Dec 1967 and met the Maharishi-George and John were there too-Dennis must have met John at least briefly that night
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« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2009, 02:09:30 PM »

Actually George Harrison was trying to get the Beatles to move out to San Francisco. But after he went out there himself and saw that it was a looney bin he quickly changed his mind.

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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 08:56:20 PM »

Also, George Harrison came to see the Boys play in Central Park in the early seventies.
You can see a brief image of him standing in the wings in the Good Vibrations from Central Park show.
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« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 09:55:00 PM »

Also, George Harrison came to see the Boys play in Central Park in the early seventies.
You can see a brief image of him standing in the wings in the Good Vibrations from Central Park show.


Now that you mention it, I read somewhere that George Harrison was a big fan of the BBs music in the late 60s
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« Reply #34 on: February 24, 2009, 05:24:33 AM »

Also, George Harrison came to see the Boys play in Central Park in the early seventies.
You can see a brief image of him standing in the wings in the Good Vibrations from Central Park show.


Now that you mention it, I read somewhere that George Harrison was a big fan of the BBs music in the late 60s


Another thing, George's wife was from Hawthorne and he reportedly was very interested in knowing about the Beach Boys. At least that's what I did read
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« Reply #35 on: February 24, 2009, 09:23:36 AM »

Also, let's not forget George's sisters involvement with the Carl Wilson Foundartion, and her wonderful speech at the El Rey concert.
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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2009, 10:03:41 AM »

Also, George Harrison came to see the Boys play in Central Park in the early seventies.
You can see a brief image of him standing in the wings in the Good Vibrations from Central Park show.


38 years is a long time ago, but about george being at the good vibrations from central park 1971 show....wasn't he trying to get the group to sign with apple? i seem to remember that being so..but i may be wrong. i just have a foggy memory about that.
and if that is so, again not positive about that, then that would speak volumes about what they thought of the beach boys' music at that time.
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« Reply #37 on: February 24, 2009, 10:29:29 PM »

God, I thought this was going to be a Hoffman style thread - Dennis needs the holy benediction of the Beatles before his music can be considered good.   Shocked

That's the rather overwhelming group of Beach Boys fans who really like the Beatles more trying to find ways to justify their fandom. Hence my "nice" reply in the beginning of the thread.
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« Reply #38 on: February 24, 2009, 10:48:06 PM »

For me I'm more impressed that the Beach Boys liked the Beatles. I'm a fan of both, but if I had to chose it's the Beach Boys all the way.
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« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2009, 06:24:35 AM »

I did choose, and it has been the Beach Boys all...the...way.
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