McCartney's woe

[Pretty Funky]

I know Melinda has her critics on these boards but she is a saint compared to Heather. Those tapes can not be used BTW as Paul was not aware he was being recorded. So she...eh...doesn't have a leg to stand on.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Yeah, I'm one of Melinda's biggest critics, but you're right...Mills is worse. A LOT worse. I think she basically took advantage of McCartney, who I personally feel will never get over losing his soulmate, Linda.

You know that headline she was so mad about, how it said losing her leg was the best thing to happen to her? It really was. She suckered McCartney into marrying her to get his money, and wanted people to feel sorry for her to ensue that she got that money. Of course, it's backfiring.

Good.

[Surfer Joe]

it doesn't smell right to me. McCartney may be a prick...a control freak, womanizer, pothead, elitist, whatever...but the guy has NEVER had anything like this pop up about his character in all these years. this crap doesn't just materialize out of thin air when you hit your sixties. there's no way this should have gone public, and no way its even close to being the whole truth. macca blew it by hooking up with this bottomless pit of a chick. His kids knew it...he should have listened.

Well said, and well reasoned.  She hasn't got a leg to stand on.

[MBE]

Yeah, I'm one of Melinda's biggest critics, but you're right...Mills is worse. A LOT worse. I think she basically took advantage of McCartney, who I personally feel will never get over losing his soulmate, Linda.

You know that headline she was so mad about, how it said losing her leg was the best thing to happen to her? It really was. She suckered McCartney into marrying her to get his money, and wanted people to feel sorry for her to ensue that she got that money. Of course, it's backfiring.

Good.

I feel 100 percent the same way concerning Melinda compared to Heather. I could not stand Heather ever.

[Pretty Funky]

That reminds me, could someone give me directions to the "All I Want To Do" Hooker subject  ? 

[RONDEMON]

Something a bit ironic, my favorite recent Macca song is "Heather" on Driving Rain. Easily his best instrumental and one of his best melodies IMO. I listen to it constantly, great stuff.

[matt-zeus]

Something a bit ironic, my favorite recent Macca song is "Heather" on Driving Rain. Easily his best instrumental and one of his best melodies IMO. I listen to it constantly, great stuff.

I guess Macca won't be performing that one anytime soon...

[Lola Jane]

If someone else petitions for divorce against you, it is likely you will respond (as you legally have to).  Mills reponse is certainly detailed (the bit about never declining sexual intimacy in 7 years, except once - physical exhaustion - stunned me, I guess because I'm trying to work out how many 'headaches' I've had - more than one - but not because I didn't care for my partner).  In divorce cases like this, every bit of dirty laundry is going to be aired, one perception versus another.  Inevitably, there is always a little truth in it, we all do things to loved ones that aren't nice and marriages are hard to sustain anyway, let alone one under media gaze. 

Mills sound like a strong character and is going to fight.  Some of you are a little merciless in your opinions.  I don't think for a minute that she's an angel (nor is McCartney), and they have both allowed the divorce to become a public fight.
Quit giving her a hard time.

[Surfer Joe]

Quit giving her a hard time.

Presumably you believe her claims; a lot of us don't- for reasons I think are best outlined in Jon Stebbins' excellent post on the first page of this thread.  This is a woman who was offered 60 million dollars as an option to airing the dirty laundry (which I also think is custom-woven dirty laundry) and chose this path instead. You call that strong; I guess it is, in the same sense that month-old eggs are strong, or the wind coming off a paper mill next to a hundred-acre landfill is strong. If she's so "strong" and was enduring all that...how come he's the one who left?

Sorry; lots more hard times forthcoming from me.

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Mills sound like a strong character and is going to fight.  Some of you are a little merciless in your opinions.  I don't think for a minute that she's an angel (nor is McCartney), and they have both allowed the divorce to become a public fight.
Quit giving her a hard time.

Why?  I don't see where Paul has matched what she's done, thus far, in terms of slinging mud.  The things that came out about her were from the press itself, and I have to believe they knew details of her past all along.  They held their fire prior to his marriage, no doubt out of respect for his contributions to music and the worldwide profile of Great Britain.  Once the marriage was over, the gloves were off.  The press never liked her.  That's not Paul's fault.  From most indications, he tried to make an amicable split.  That may have not been possible, but he at least tried (and to her credit, she seemed to before the merda hit the fan about her pre-marital life).  She's also the one that leaked all the info about him locking her out of his house in London.  But that lock-out came after contents were leaked of a taped, private conversation between Paul and his daughter, Stella.  A conversation that took place after the seperation.  Who taped his private phone conversation, and who leaked it to the press?  I'm sure that had something to do with why he changed the locks. 

What is she fighting about, anyways?  It's just money.  How much does she need?  How much does he need, for that matter, but he is the one that made it.  Plus, most of his money was made well before he even met her.  He doesn't owe her anything above half of whatever he made when they were together, and I don't see how trying her case in the court of public opinion is going to get her any more than that.  She's just making herself look bad, and if she hadn't taken this tack, she probably would have survived it all, received a nice settlement, and still could be a well-liked celebrity working for charitable causes.  If it's her lawyers' fault, she should fire them.  All of these things that have come out in the past few days are from a document she hasn't even signed, and contain statements that are contradicted by earlier public statements.  The rest is from so-called friends of hers, who are saying that Paul beat up Linda during that marriage.  How would they or Heather even know that? 

[Surfer Joe]

Wow...excellent post, fm.

[Dancing Bear]

If he had accused her of something outrageous - on the level of the stabbing incident - we all would have raised our eyebrows just the same.

[MBE]

She isn't thinking about her child at all by making this public. Paul is a hardass at times but I don't think he has ever ever ever been seen as a violent man. In fact I would say he is the very last person I would ever think would do such a thing. Why? Because he always has controll over himself. Except for being boneheaded about carring around pot at airports, he seems like he has never made a move that wasn't thought out first.

[Smilin Ed H]

"Whip me, master!"

By the way, which woman did John beat, allegedly?  Cynthia?

[Amy B.]

I can see Paul being controlling. I can see him insisting that she cook, without help (as Linda did). I can see him saying nasty, hurtful things to her. I can see him getting drunk regularly and possibly having a problem. I can see him continuing to smoke pot. I can even see the bedpan thing as being true (although maybe exaggerated).
But the violent stuff sounds off the wall to me.

[PMcC]

-- Heather Mills McCartney's lawyers said Tuesday she is suing two newspapers over "false, damaging and immensely upsetting" stories surrounding her divorce from Paul McCartney.

The law firm Mishcon de Reya named the Daily Mail and London's Evening Standard as the subject of legal proceedings, adding that a suit will also be filed against The Sun.

Mills McCartney had been vilified in the media and was now being stalked by photographers, the firm said. It alleged that other newspapers had also printed false statements but the three listed would be the focus of the lawsuit.

"She cannot sue -- for now, at least -- every single newspaper that has published false, damaging, and immensely upsetting statements about her. She should not thereby be taken to have accepted that these statements are true," the statement read.

Associated Newspapers, the publisher of the Daily Mail and the Evening Standard, said the stories about Mills McCartney in both papers "were obtained by proper methods and in accordance with good journalistic practice."

"Our exclusive stories were extensively followed up in detail by all other newspapers and media outlets," it said in a statement. The publisher said it would deal with the legal claim "in the normal way."

The McCartney divorce has become the most sensational marital breakup since Prince Charles and Princess Diana parted ways a decade ago, sparking immense rivalry in the British press for the best scoop.

Last week, the Daily Mail splashed its front page with what appeared to be legal papers drafted by Mills McCartney's lawyers against the former Beatle that alleged mistreatment.

Mills McCartney's lawyers said British media claims that she has been offered a $56 million settlement by her husband are false and "the truth is that no settlement offer, in any amount, has been made."

"She is pursued everywhere she goes. She is stalked by press photographers, who congregate outside her home and chase after her in cars -- regardless of her safety or the safety of her daughter," her lawyers said.

Mishcon de Reya issued a copy of a letter, apparently from The Mail on Sunday's investigations editor Dennis Rice, offering Heather's sister Fiona a "substantial sum" for information about the divorce.

It said the letter was hand-delivered and promised anonymity.

"It requires no imagination to conclude what kind of information was being sought from our client's closest confidante, nor why the assurance of confidentiality was believed to be necessary," the statement said. "We ask on behalf of our client for the media, as a matter of common decency, please now to show some restraint."

Associated Newspapers said the Mail on Sunday had been "led to believe that Fiona Mills had important information about this case and a perfectly proper and courteous approach was made to her

[PMcC]

I forgot to list the above source as CNN on-line...PMcC

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Somewhere a mouse is playing the world's tiniest violin... 

[MBE]

John admitted publically that he hit women in his youth. I am sure Cyn and Yoko got a little bit of it and May Pang did for sure. It's funny but if John's wives were famous like Tina Turner he would be seen quite differantly. Personally I don't care much about what goes on between any couple when it comes to music. I am a big admirer of James Brown, Ike Turner, Lennon, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc and even Spector. I just either like someones music or I don't

[Lola Jane]

Quote: Forget Marie

Quote from: Lola Jane on October 23, 2006, 04:43:40 PM
Mills sound like a strong character and is going to fight.  Some of you are a little merciless in your opinions.  I don't think for a minute that she's an angel (nor is McCartney), and they have both allowed the divorce to become a public fight.
Quit giving her a hard time.

Why?  I don't see where Paul has matched what she's done, thus far, in terms of slinging mud.  The things that came out about her were from the press itself, and I have to believe they knew details of her past all along.  They held their fire prior to his marriage, no doubt out of respect for his contributions to music and the worldwide profile of Great Britain.  Once the marriage was over, the gloves were off.  The press never liked her.  That's not Paul's fault.  From most indications, he tried to make an amicable split.  That may have not been possible, but he at least tried (and to her credit, she seemed to before the merda hit the fan about her pre-marital life).  She's also the one that leaked all the info about him locking her out of his house in London.  But that lock-out came after contents were leaked of a taped, private conversation between Paul and his daughter, Stella.  A conversation that took place after the seperation.  Who taped his private phone conversation, and who leaked it to the press?  I'm sure that had something to do with why he changed the locks. 

What is she fighting about, anyways?  It's just money.  How much does she need?  How much does he need, for that matter, but he is the one that made it.  Plus, most of his money was made well before he even met her.  He doesn't owe her anything above half of whatever he made when they were together, and I don't see how trying her case in the court of public opinion is going to get her any more than that.  She's just making herself look bad, and if she hadn't taken this tack, she probably would have survived it all, received a nice settlement, and still could be a well-liked celebrity working for charitable causes.  If it's her lawyers' fault, she should fire them.  All of these things that have come out in the past few days are from a document she hasn't even signed, and contain statements that are contradicted by earlier public statements.  The rest is from so-called friends of hers, who are saying that Paul beat up Linda during that marriage.  How would they or Heather even know that? 

As I mentioned, neither Paul nor Heather are angels in this.  Even if what she is doing is in the public domain, and what he did is behind closed doors, that doesn't make one or the other of them more or less inculpable.  'Saint Macca' is an anachronism.  Respect musical contribution and cultural legacy; yes.  Assume all things bad are in Heather's ballpark; no.  I'm just trying to bring a little perspective here.  Divorces are immensely emotional and cause all kinds of decisions to be made.  And, why believe everything you read?  I don't "obviously believe" all that is said and I don't see why I should be blasted for giving a slightly differing opinion.

[Dancing Bear]

Blasted? I didn't see anything like that in this thread.

[PMcC]

you gotta remember, this is big stuff in Britain. The Sun, Daily Mail and Evening Standard are on this like white on rice, calling it Macca vs. Mucca...If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

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Yes, divorces are immensely emotional and a two-sided story.  My take, though, is only one side is actively waging a battle in public.  I do blame Heather's "side" for that, because that's where most of the leaks are coming from.  Everything that has come out about Heather is by instigation of the press, not Paul.  And now she's suing the press, which is really what her beef is about.  I doubt Paul ever even knew she did porno shoots, or the lowdown on her earlier relationships.  I'm not sure he would have married her if he did, because he's very public image-concious.  The worst thing that Paul did was marry this woman to begin with.  No, I don't like her.  I didn't like her when she was his saintly wife, either.  She's incredibly annoying and she does come off as a complete cold fish.  Paul might be the same sort of person, but Heather didn't write "Penny Lane" or several dozen other great songs, so I feel no need to put up with her.