Unreleased Songs Masterlist: Material to expect from further archival releases

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Some other tracks that may exist that were inexplicably left off the Feel Flows set.  Hope these see the light of day soon:
- Susie Cincinnati (Early version, recorded 12/24/69)

I’m pretty sure c-man and Joshilyn confirmed this existed - or at least did exist. During one thread relating to the recording of this song (maybe on a thread about Brian’s bass credits?), it was confirmed that the credits on 15BO for this song aren’t accurate and combine credits from both versions. The first version has Brian on bass, Carl on guitar, and Al producing the basic track. The second has Al on guitar, Carl producing the basic track, and Dennis Dragon on drums (plus overdubbed rhythm and lead guitars from Carl). Bruce might be playing keyboards, and Captain Daryl Dragon is either on bass on keyboards.

It exists, yeah, two separate tries at it.  The basic session that served as the seed of the final 15 Big Ones release had Al on guitar, Bruce on piano, Daryl on Bass, and Dennis Dragon on Drums.  Essentially, they only used the drums from that session for the final product.

[Rebel]

Joshilyn - do you plan to make any more BB videos?
I have been anxiously awaiting.

Also, any chance you can decipher the chord to let’s live before we die?

[Bedroom Tapes]

So according to the new Beach Boys book, Brian mentions Just An Imitation again which means it may still exist afterall???

[Jim V.]

So according to the new Beach Boys book, Brian mentions Just An Imitation again which means it may still exist afterall???

Pretty sure that quote is pulled from his 2016 autobiography, so I wouldn't get too excited about it.

Then again, I can now listen to the 1975 version of "In The Back Of My Mind", the 1974 demo of "California Feelin'" and "Where Is She" whenever I feel like it. And even in like, say, 2010, I don't know if I'd believed it. So maybe there really is a recording of "Just An Imitation" and it'll be released!

[DennysDrums83]

I am still hoping for a cleaned up version of River Song that was recorded in 73, I believe, as well as a live version.  I was really hoping those would be included in the Sail on Sailor set.  I am still holding onto hope for a live set from 73 and 74 shows.

[HeyJude]

I am still hoping for a cleaned up version of River Song that was recorded in 73, I believe, as well as a live version.  I was really hoping those would be included in the Sail on Sailor set.  I am still holding onto hope for a live set from 73 and 74 shows.

I believe they could mostly if not fully re-create that rough mix of "River Song" with the multitracks of the finished song. That would be the best way to get a "clean" version of that iteration of the songs.

[Julia]

Count me among those who would pay good money for a Love You boxset, even if it has to include material from 15BO and Adult/Child (which I personally don't care for) to fill it out. Maybe, hopefully, the silver lining to Brian's passing might mean that we get an archival release of material more associated with him as an individual artist. I'd love a comprehensive Paley Sessions boxset, even if a lot of it has come out in other places, it'd be nice to just have it all in one place and without any inferior remixes like in the 04 album. Im not sure what exists in the vaults for Brian's solo career but I'd love an "Imagination...Naked" type release of any raw tapes that may exist pre-Thomas' noodling, or perhaps the same for BW88, if there are demos and/or less overwrought mixes out there that let those songs breathe. (In my opinion the final version is so cacophonous I can hardly make out the melodies.)

Now, to my favorite topic  ...
Is there any good reason why the SMiLE material hasn't gotten the Pet Sounds treatment of officially released a capella and instrumental only versions of the songs? I know the TSS boxset gave us some session highlights and the "backing vocals montage" track but so much was missing if there wasn't a valid reason like the tapes being lost. Im desperately trying to get my hands on isolated CIFOTM chorus/SU reprise vocals for my fanmix as well as what I believe is referred to as the "Version 1 chorus" of CIFOTM. (As heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O271xZpAIw8 and in a more complete albeit low quality form here: https://youtu.be/k8aBdPYtNkI?si=H73-yPSMLMhELsGg&t=172 <I'd kill to have that entire piece in high quality!)

I wouldn't mind higher quality versions of some of the Psychedelic Sounds as well, though realistically I'm probably alone on that front. Just the Smog and Taxi Cabber skits and more of the Hal Blaine veggie fight would be great. (The one they included in TSS was way too brief.)

[Angela Jones]

I heard a wonderful and rather short vocals only of Child is Father of the man with the very high key baby voice.  Described as ...'spooky surf'.  Also H&V - though vocals only isn't entirely accurate. There was the sound of a bell tolling. Rather odd.

[Bedroom Tapes]

I heard a wonderful and rather short vocals only of Child is Father of the man with the very high key baby voice.  Described as ...'spooky surf'.  Also H&V - though vocals only isn't entirely accurate. There was the sound of a bell tolling. Rather odd.

Where are these specific tracks to listen to?

[AllIWannaDo]

Count me among those who would pay good money for a Love You boxset, even if it has to include material from 15BO and Adult/Child (which I personally don't care for) to fill it out. Maybe, hopefully, the silver lining to Brian's passing might mean that we get an archival release of material more associated with him as an individual artist. I'd love a comprehensive Paley Sessions boxset, even if a lot of it has come out in other places, it'd be nice to just have it all in one place and without any inferior remixes like in the 04 album. Im not sure what exists in the vaults for Brian's solo career but I'd love an "Imagination...Naked" type release of any raw tapes that may exist pre-Thomas' noodling, or perhaps the same for BW88, if there are demos and/or less overwrought mixes out there that let those songs breathe. (In my opinion the final version is so cacophonous I can hardly make out the melodies.)

Now, to my favorite topic  ...
Is there any good reason why the SMiLE material hasn't gotten the Pet Sounds treatment of officially released a capella and instrumental only versions of the songs? I know the TSS boxset gave us some session highlights and the "backing vocals montage" track but so much was missing if there wasn't a valid reason like the tapes being lost. Im desperately trying to get my hands on isolated CIFOTM chorus/SU reprise vocals for my fanmix as well as what I believe is referred to as the "Version 1 chorus" of CIFOTM. (As heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O271xZpAIw8 and in a more complete albeit low quality form here: https://youtu.be/k8aBdPYtNkI?si=H73-yPSMLMhELsGg&t=172 <I'd kill to have that entire piece in high quality!)

I wouldn't mind higher quality versions of some of the Psychedelic Sounds as well, though realistically I'm probably alone on that front. Just the Smog and Taxi Cabber skits and more of the Hal Blaine veggie fight would be great. (The one they included in TSS was way too brief.)

This has jogged my memory, I’ve got a red coloured glossy card cased ocean CD I’ve not listened to for years! What I do remember of it is at the time loving the hi-fidelity in comparison to other SMiLE boots I came across way back then. The audio quality was rich and phat. Hopefully it’s a rich as my distant memory thinks it might be. I think it also had some tracks in stereo but I may be wishful thinking on that. Will dig it out and have a play 

Daft question but is there a way to add pics on here? I’d love to upload some to see if it jogs anyones mind got any background on it

[AllIWannaDo]

Yey, found it in 5 seconds (there is hope!) this is it!

https://gravitystereo.com/product/the-beach-boys-smile-odeon/

[Julia]

Yey, found it in 5 seconds (there is hope!) this is it!

https://gravitystereo.com/product/the-beach-boys-smile-odeon/

Under the italics button is an "insert image" button that, if clicked, will produce a set of "brackets" that look like this: [ img][/img ] place your image URL inbetween them and the picture will be embedded in your post. Also, at the bottom left corner of your text window when making a new comment there's an "Additional Options" hyperlink that, if clicked, will open a drop down menu that includes a direct file embed option. I've never used this, so I'm not sure how it works exactly. My guess is it won't embed your pic in the comment directly but share the image file as a clickable hyperlink that lets other people download it

[AllIWannaDo]

Nice one Julia that’s really good of you. Now it’s just a question of retaining that info 

[Bedroom Tapes]

I heard through the grapevine that "I'll Always Love You" is out there now.

[Bedroom Tapes]

POB Rehearsals, guys!

https://youtu.be/kFPEAR9McMo?si=xV4BnLmsZcbxvAri

[Rocker]

POB Rehearsals, guys!

https://youtu.be/kFPEAR9McMo?si=xV4BnLmsZcbxvAri

 

[coco1997]

I heard through the grapevine that "I'll Always Love You" is out there now.

Haven't been able to find this one myself. This is an BB '85 outtake, correct?

[Bedroom Tapes]

KTSA era

[coco1997]

A day or two ago that IAMPAUL YouTube page posted a 15 second clip of "Holy Man" with Carl on lead. It has since been removed.

[HeyJude]

The KTSA version of "I'll Always Love You" sounds very very similar to the 1975 Barry Mann version (which would make sense, both were produced by Bruce). Carl very, very closely copied the vocal/phrasing of that Mann recording, which initially made me think there was some sort of AI shenanigans going on with Carl's voice on the circulating version. But it's apparently legit.

Very cool to hear; Carl vocals are always great to hear. But lyrically this ain't exactly Van Dyke Parks (or Tony Asher or Mike Love or even Eugene Landy for that matter):

I'll
always love you
I'll
always love you

forever and ever
forever and ever
forever and ever
forever and ever and ever

I'll
always need you
I'll
always need you

forever and ever
forever and ever
forever and ever
forever and ever and ever

I need your lovin' arms around me
and honey I need you so
I need you near me
I love you so much I had to let you know

Baby
Honey
Oooooooooo

Baby
I want you
and I need you

and I'll always love you

forever and ever
forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever

There's a pretty active weaving melody that Carl sings on this thing; it needs like five times more lyrics to fill the melody. The "I" has like 37 notes in it. It almost sounds like someone is reading sheet music to a song with a weaving melody and making up lyrics on the spot.