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« on: January 08, 2013, 08:16:47 AM »

Hi, just wanted to share some wild ideas I acted on back in the nineties when my Smile obsession was at its height.  The ideas were:

Superimposing the "Cantina" section over what is now known as "Heroes and Villains part 3 (Animals)":
http://tinyurl.com/a6kpeua

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Superimposing some of the sound effects from what was then known as "George Fell Into His French Horn" over part of "Surf's Up":
http://tinyurl.com/akowzbx

These were sort of the crown jewels of my DIY Smile back in the day, and I listened to it so often that I still can't hear "Cantina" or "Surf's Up" without thinking of these.  3D 
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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2013, 08:28:52 AM »

Pretty cool stuff man! Props for doing it on a 4 track tape recorder!
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 09:38:24 AM »

Fun! I've usually mixed the "Heroes & Villains Part 3" under the final a capella "I've been in this town so long..." section which works well. It also provides an interesting counterpoint when mixed under the "Wonderful" tag ("Mamamama").
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 09:53:41 AM »

Superimposing some of the sound effects from what was then known as "George Fell Into His French Horn" over part of "Surf's Up":
http://tinyurl.com/akowzbx


Damn, I've been pipped to the post. My Smile also uses horn SFX in Surf's Up. I put Swedish Frog over Tag to Part 1 though, right after Barnyard.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 01:13:10 AM »

I did a similar thing with cantina and the animal noises a few years back. Sure it's not historically accurate but it does fit both time-wise and thematically- the cowboys in the bar behaving like animals while the ladies dance.
Still find it a shame that the Smile box wasn't able to clear up (m)any mysteries about the various Heroes versions due to lack of surviving tapes/acetates and input from Brian and Van Dyke Parks.
Am i right in remembering that Alan Boyd or Mark L. mentioned that a slightly longer edit of the standard 45 version had been found during research for the box ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 07:00:32 PM »

Pretty cool stuff man! Props for doing it on a 4 track tape recorder!
Thanks! ... the hardest part, as I recall, was dubbing in the George Fell bits direct from vinyl!  Thud
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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 07:02:01 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2013, 03:19:23 AM »

I combined the animal noises with "Tag to part one" and used it as a middle eight in Wonderful. As if it was meant that way - same tempo, same key. It wasn't meant that way, of course, but works as if.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2013, 08:16:57 PM »

Never noticed how well Animals fits with the cantina.

I always knew those horns fit well for Surf's Up but could never figure out how. Your idea makes a lot of sense.
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