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Quote from: Mike's Beard on June 14, 2013, 04:45:01 PM
True, I meant the whole album getting a posthumous release as others have mentioned in the past. To be honest I find much of the record to be pretty crap and the hodgepodge mix of big band stuff with early 70's outtakes really don't sit well together. The best stuff has already been creamed off for past releases.
Couldn't disagree more. Obviously It's Over Now and Still I Dream Of It are wonderful, but the rest of the Adult Child material that's seen release is the worst stuff (Games Two Can Play, Hey Little Tomboy and HELP Is On The Way). On the other hand Life Is For The Living, Everybody Wants To Live, Lines and It's Trying To Say are all great.
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Quote from: AndrewHickey on June 14, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Obviously It's Over Now and Still I Dream Of It are wonderful, but the rest of the Adult Child material that's seen release is the worst stuff (Games Two Can Play, Hey Little Tomboy and HELP Is On The Way). On the other hand Life Is For The Living, Everybody Wants To Live, Lines and It's Trying To Say are all great.
I certainly wouldn't say Games Two Can Play is part of the 'worst stuff'. It is just out of place on that album.
I really don't see myself how Everybody Wants to Live can be seen as great but perhaps that's just me. The lyrics are atrocious for one thing.
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Quote from: Nicko1234 on June 14, 2013, 05:26:19 PM
Quote from: AndrewHickey on June 14, 2013, 05:20:26 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Obviously It's Over Now and Still I Dream Of It are wonderful, but the rest of the Adult Child material that's seen release is the worst stuff (Games Two Can Play, Hey Little Tomboy and HELP Is On The Way). On the other hand Life Is For The Living, Everybody Wants To Live, Lines and It's Trying To Say are all great.
I certainly wouldn't say Games Two Can Play is part of the 'worst stuff'. It is just out of place on that album.
It's not a bad track, by any means, but nor is it a particularly good one.
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I really don't see myself how Everybody Wants to Live can be seen as great but perhaps that's just me. The lyrics are atrocious for one thing.
They are -- but no worse, actually, than those for Games Two Can Play.
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I agree that AC as submitted wasn't very good. And I'm not an On Broadway fan.
But "Life is for the Living," "Lines," "It's Trying to Say" and "Everybody Wants to Live" all deserve release alongside "It's Over Now" and "Still I Dream of It." That's a great batch of tunes that deserves to be heard.
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Quote from: Wirestone on June 14, 2013, 06:06:23 PM
I agree that AC as submitted wasn't very good. And I'm not an On Broadway fan.
But "Life is for the Living," "Lines," "It's Trying to Say" and "Everybody Wants to Live" all deserve release alongside "It's Over Now" and "Still I Dream of It." That's a great batch of tunes that deserves to be heard.
Agree on Lines and Everybody Wants to Live. Interesting Love Youesque tunes.
Completely disagree on Life Is for the Living and It's Trying to Say, neither of which belong anywhere close to an official release, IMO.
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I demand. I said I DEMAND the band put out a box set of all the shittest crappiest outtakes one can imagine. Given this board is made up of mostly ingrate selfish focks, I think it would be oh so fitting. Besides, all these ingrate selfish focks would have years and years worth of whining and diva drama performance inducing material to satisfy even their flacid salamis. BRING IT ON. IAM AM OF THE INGRATE SELFISH FOCK GENERATION. It is my given right to expect it.
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I want archival releases of the Michigan '66 and Hawaii '67 concerts in full.
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Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on June 14, 2013, 06:57:37 PM
I want archival releases of the Michigan '66 and Hawaii '67 concerts in full.
Add both of these to my wish list, as well. And nobody try to sell me on the idea that Hawaii is unfit for release ("We don't want none of yo' pizza, we didn't order any!"). There are some things in this life people will just never agree upon. I say Hawaii is sublime.
Oh, and if there truly is a studio/rehearsal/demo version of "Sail on, Sailor" featuring Carl on lead vox, floating somewhere out there in the ether, I'd give your left arm to one day hear it.
These, and any/all surviving Caribou '74 tapes.
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I'm not sure if the tune Bulesque was ever recorded but I remeber reading somewhere that Jack Reily said it was the song Mike Love hated the most so it's probably a pretty good tune.
What I would like to see the most now is a two cd Brian Wilson productions since we have never had one here in the states and there are plenty of great released AND unreleased tunes.Is anyone up at taking a stab at a track list for such a collection ? I'll add mine later after alittle time to think it over.
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Personally I agree that a lot of Adult/Child is below-standard, to put it mildly, however the sequencing plays a big part in making it seem such a hodgepodge. I re-sequenced my copy to have the conventional songs on one side and the big band numbers on the other (see below) and it works a treat. Sort of like a latter-day Today! (albeit of ever so slightly lower quality...)
1. Life Is For The Living
2. Hey Little Tomboy
3. Everybody Wants To Live
4. Lines
5. Games Two Can Play
6. HELP is On It's Way
7. It's Trying To Say
8. Deep Purple
9. On Broadway
10. It's Over Now
11. Still I Dream Of It
12. Shortenin' Bread
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I think some of the Adult/Child songs would benefit from re-recording, particularly "Deep Purple" which I really like but I find Brian's vocal on it excruciating at times. Judging from his performance on the Gershwin album (which is one of my favorite Brian Wilson albums), I think he'd be able to pull it off better nowadays.
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Quote from: Generation42 on June 14, 2013, 07:45:36 PM
Add both of these to my wish list, as well. And nobody try to sell me on the idea that Hawaii is unfit for release ("We don't want none of yo' pizza, we didn't order any!"). There are some things in this life people will just never agree upon. I say Hawaii is sublime.
They'd never release the concerts in full...if not due to the fact that the performances are generally bad, then because the tapes for the 8/26 show are incomplete.
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Some songs I'd like to see on a future rarities release:
In the Back of My Mind (backing track)
Friends (alt version with strings)
Tears in the Morning (alt version)
Big Sur (early version)
Carry Me Home
I'm Going Your Way (aka California Slide)
It's A New Day
Fallin' In Love aka Lady (original mix)
Out in the Country
Shake, Rattle and Roll
Mony Mony
Michael Rowed the Boat Ashore
Marilyn Rovell
That Special Feeling
It's Trying to Say
Lines
Deep Purple
Life Is for the Living
Stevie
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I don't know, I think most of what's left (that has been booted) ranges from mediocre to terrible - with some exceptions of course. I feel like they got it right with what they included in the box, only there are a couple of really great unreleased tracks not represented there. I can't see there being another full fledged rarities package, although I guess digital only is a possibility. And it depends on the quality of the tracks that most of us have never heard...
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Couple thoughts that get me giddy with hope!
- Pet Sounds Backing Vocals Montage
- Love You Backing Vocals Montage
- Just Once In My Life [A Capella Mix]
- Let's Put Our Heart Together [Backing Track]
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Quote from: Mooger Fooger on June 14, 2013, 06:51:21 PM
I demand. I said I DEMAND the band put out a box set of all the shittest crappiest outtakes one can imagine. Given this board is made up of mostly ingrate selfish focks, I think it would be oh so fitting. Besides, all these ingrate selfish focks would have years and years worth of whining and diva drama performance inducing material to satisfy even their flacid salamis. BRING IT ON. IAM AM OF THE INGRATE SELFISH FOCK GENERATION. It is my given right to expect it.
I actually wouldn't mind that....
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I gotta say, they put almost everything I wanted on
Made In California
. But there are a few things, which I separate into "reasonably finished" and "possibly unfinished":
Reasonably Finished
"Lucy Jones"
(1974): Apparently features a Steve Kalinich lead vocal with Brian doing backups? Or is it a shared lead?
"You're Riding High on the Music"
(1974): Apparently another Brian/Kalinich song. Never really heard much of anything about it.
"Ruby Baby"
(1976)
"Calendar Girl
(1978)
"How's About A Little Bit Of Your Sweet Lovin'"
(1979)
"River Deep-Mountain High"
(1980)
"Stevie"
(1981)
"Sweetie"
(1981)
Possibly (and some probably) unfinished
"Rooftop Harry
(1972): This was definitely recorded, but according to the engineer, the song was probably never finished. Would be interesting to hear the backing track if that's all that exists.
"Burlesque"
(1972?): Hardly anything known about this one. Was it even recorded? And if so, is it in the vaults?
"Gimme Some Lovin'/Baby I Need Your Lovin'"
(1972?): I talked to David Sandler about this and he said it's one of the best tracks he did with Brian. However, were vocals done?
"Boys And Girls"
(1980): There is a backing track from 1979, but apparently no vocals. I'm thinking the 1980 version might be more completed?
"Water Builds Up"
(1984): Apparently tried during the sessions for the '85 album. Would be interested to hear how far this one got, and how it compares to Brian's solo version.
So yeah...at least to me it seems like the compilers of the new set really did put the cream of the crop on there. I mean, all the stuff I've listed either sounds great, or I imagine it would be interesting, but I wouldn't trade off the previously unreleased material that's coming on
Made In California
for any of it (except "Stevie"). So overall I feel like the guys did a good job of clearing the vaults. And it makes me even more excited to hear Brian's next work after
Made In California
comes out.
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Quote from: doinnothin on June 22, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
Couple thoughts that get me giddy with hope!
- Pet Sounds Backing Vocals Montage
This is the one thing I was REALLY hoping would be on the box. I hope it comes out on a 50th anniversary release of Pet Sounds or something.
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