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« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2012, 06:44:29 PM »

Almost every song Bob Dylan became famous for in the acoustic days is an appropriated traditional melody. And EVERYONE thinks Blowin' In The Wind was a  full-Dylan composition. Does this matter? No. I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.
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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2012, 07:05:08 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.
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« Reply #52 on: February 04, 2012, 10:14:42 PM »

Burt Jasnch/Pentangle is one of my all time faves and one of the greatest guitarists (folk or not) ever, so it pisses me off that they ripped him off and I didn't know about it!  Angry

That said, this doesn't annoy me too much because, for me, Zep doesn't even begin until Houses Of The Holy!
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« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2012, 12:58:46 AM »

but hey different strokes for different folks.

Yep, that's the most mature thing to do re the Gallagher comments;take a balanced approach.  He needs a good punch in the mouth for dissing the BB's and a good pat on the back for straight shooting about Radiohead  LOL
I agree with the punch in the mouth comment but a pat on the back for dissing radiohead?
you don't like radiohead?
Well, I don't hate them per se, although the Bends nearly gave me the bends (I had to come up for air, pronto) - KidA, Hail, Limbs etc, I find myself drifting off.

Ok Computer is, err, ok - a reasonable listen (Karma Police is nifty and I do like that line about "the Government" in No suprises ("They don't speak for us")) but my reaction is not unlike that I have to Supergrass - OK at the time, but I don't take away a lot, or think about them "later".  Hence, I'm a tad surprised about the fanaticism RH generate - but, that's art (and maybe I'll feel differently in the future)

yes you might Smiley when i first gave them a listen i was like wtf does everybody see in them? but it's the progression they get better with every album they put out..it's usually the other way around..the make music that drifts you off like pink floyd does...i can recommend some of their best songs so you can see what i mean if you'd like me to.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but my favorite Radiohead album is Pablo Honey. They still have yet to top Ripcord and Anyone Can Play Guitar. Their Rhinestone Cowboy cover was pretty great also.
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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2012, 08:39:47 AM »

but hey different strokes for different folks.

Yep, that's the most mature thing to do re the Gallagher comments;take a balanced approach.  He needs a good punch in the mouth for dissing the BB's and a good pat on the back for straight shooting about Radiohead  LOL
I agree with the punch in the mouth comment but a pat on the back for dissing radiohead?
you don't like radiohead?
Well, I don't hate them per se, although the Bends nearly gave me the bends (I had to come up for air, pronto) - KidA, Hail, Limbs etc, I find myself drifting off.

Ok Computer is, err, ok - a reasonable listen (Karma Police is nifty and I do like that line about "the Government" in No suprises ("They don't speak for us")) but my reaction is not unlike that I have to Supergrass - OK at the time, but I don't take away a lot, or think about them "later".  Hence, I'm a tad surprised about the fanaticism RH generate - but, that's art (and maybe I'll feel differently in the future)

yes you might Smiley when i first gave them a listen i was like wtf does everybody see in them? but it's the progression they get better with every album they put out..it's usually the other way around..the make music that drifts you off like pink floyd does...i can recommend some of their best songs so you can see what i mean if you'd like me to.

This is probably an unpopular opinion, but my favorite Radiohead album is Pablo Honey. They still have yet to top Ripcord and Anyone Can Play Guitar. Their Rhinestone Cowboy cover was pretty great also.
Finally someone that doesnt trash that album Smiley seriously I can't find one song on that album that is bad. I understand that they became better as their career progressed but it doesn't mean Pablo Honey was sh*t!
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« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2012, 09:50:24 AM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?
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« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2012, 12:58:00 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?

Again it's not that uncommon.  Brian also got sued over Chuck Berry.  Getting on Zeppelin for what half the other bands were doing is kinda weak. 

Another thing!  Zeppelin and the 'Boys weren't handling the paperwork.  Saying they didn't give credit on the album sleeve or whatever is like saying they shipped the albums too slow.  It's crap that has nothing to do with them personally, it's things their record companies did. 
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« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2012, 06:56:10 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?

Again it's not that uncommon.  Brian also got sued over Chuck Berry.  Getting on Zeppelin for what half the other bands were doing is kinda weak. 
 


I agree! I was asking a facetious question.
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« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2012, 07:33:25 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?

Again it's not that uncommon.  Brian also got sued over Chuck Berry.  Getting on Zeppelin for what half the other bands were doing is kinda weak. 

Another thing!  Zeppelin and the 'Boys weren't handling the paperwork.  Saying they didn't give credit on the album sleeve or whatever is like saying they shipped the albums too slow.  It's crap that has nothing to do with them personally, it's things their record companies did. 
How wrong can one man be??
Half the other bands?
Brian did not get sued?
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« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2012, 09:08:50 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?

Again it's not that uncommon.  Brian also got sued over Chuck Berry.  Getting on Zeppelin for what half the other bands were doing is kinda weak. 

Another thing!  Zeppelin and the 'Boys weren't handling the paperwork.  Saying they didn't give credit on the album sleeve or whatever is like saying they shipped the albums too slow.  It's crap that has nothing to do with them personally, it's things their record companies did. 
How wrong can one man be??
Half the other bands?
Brian did not get sued?

Please use full sentences, I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing. 

Brian Wilson wrote Surfin' USA.  He stole the entire note for note music from Chuck Berry.  Chuck threatened to sue.  the Beach Boys gave him writing credit on it. 

Do you agree, or disagree with that?  Are you pedanticaly disagreeing that he didn't actually sue, instead just threatened to sue?  Are you saying he threatened to sue the Beach Boys, so that wasn't Brian?

What are you saying?  Use full sentences, please. 

What does "Half the other bands" ?  Mean?  Full sentences, again, would be appreciated if you're going to DISAGREE, or AGREE with what I say. 

"How Wrong can One Man Be" ?  What are you talking about, are you asking me how wrong you can be? How wrong I can be? 

FULL SENTENCES please on what you disagree with. 
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« Reply #60 on: February 05, 2012, 09:09:57 PM »

I also think it is disingenuous not to mention that Led Zeppelin also did credit the original artists and composers on specific songs.

After they were pressured into doing so, mostly by lawsuits.

Really? On You Shook Me and I Can't Quit You Baby?

Again it's not that uncommon.  Brian also got sued over Chuck Berry.  Getting on Zeppelin for what half the other bands were doing is kinda weak. 
 


I agree! I was asking a facetious question.

I know, I was just expounding on what you said. 
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