FatherOfTheMan Sr101
Smiley Smile Associate
 Offline
Posts: 2289
I made a game
|
 |
« on: October 19, 2011, 12:38:40 PM » |
|
From what I'm hearing they're flown in from "Child", Is it as good as the JMZ SMiLE Mix? I LOVE the way they finished it, It's amazing that we can do that nowadays!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Andrew G. Doe
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender: 
Posts: 17767
The triumph of The Hickey Script !
|
|
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 12:57:57 PM » |
|
Very, very sparse... and the better for it, IMEO.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
The four sweetest words in my vocabulary: "This poster is ignored".
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 01:09:36 PM » |
|
Vocals on the JMZ mix are surprisingly well done. Still don't get why so many fan mixes opt to omit the "12th Street Rag" sections and go pitch shift crazy on the end, but yerp. Vocals're noice.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
bossaroo
Smiley Smile Associate
 Online
Posts: 1643
...let's be friends...
|
|
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2011, 10:26:20 AM » |
|
Still don't get why so many fan mixes opt to omit the "12th Street Rag" sections and go pitch shift crazy on the end
I'm with you... I don't get why "Look" has to change key at the end. I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2011, 11:10:41 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
Chris Brown
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2014
|
|
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2011, 11:20:15 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it in there even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal"). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: October 20, 2011, 11:51:54 AM by Chris Brown »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2011, 11:25:18 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it on even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. I was thinking the same. I really hope the TSS edit doesn't omit this/bother with pitch shifting, as far as the track goes. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
David Kennedy
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 63
|
|
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2011, 04:38:45 PM » |
|
Has anyone heard if "12th Street Rag" made it into any of the Smile Sessions for Look?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2011, 04:41:38 PM » |
|
Has anyone heard if "12th Street Rag" made it into any of the Smile Sessions for Look?
I would really hope so. If it's edited out of the disc 1 version, I will mangle my genitals with a screwdriver out of anger. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
|
Aegir
|
|
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 04:52:05 PM » |
|
record a youtube video of you doing that while listening to BWPS
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Every time you spell Smile as SMiLE, an angel's wings are forcibly torn off its body.
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 04:53:04 PM » |
|
record a youtube video of you doing that while listening to BWPS
it not the same situation aT ALL, AEGIS SHIELD PROTECTOR OF ALL THAT IS HOLEY |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
JeremyM
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 27
|
|
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2011, 10:11:10 PM » |
|
Is it as good as the JMZ SMiLE Mix? I LOVE the way they finished it, It's amazing that we can do that nowadays!
Smile Sessions version uses less vocals on Look than JMZ. On the whole, the flown in vocals are more sparse on TSS than the JMZ mixes and not quite as "out there" in the way they are used. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Andrew G. Doe
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 17767
The triumph of The Hickey Script !
|
|
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2011, 12:16:10 AM » |
|
Has anyone heard if "12th Street Rag" made it into any of the Smile Sessions for Look?
Puty shaw 'it do.  |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 12:20:59 AM by Andrew G. Doe »
|
Logged
|
The four sweetest words in my vocabulary: "This poster is ignored".
|
|
|
37!ws
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1511
All baggudo at my man
|
|
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2011, 08:08:51 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it in there even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal"). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. Someone who should know told me that Brian decided to leave it out of BWPS as an artistic decision. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Check out my podcasts: Tune X Podcast (tunex.fab4it.com) and Autobiography of a Schnook (SchnookPodcast.com); there are worse things you can do!
|
|
|
puni puni
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 885
|
|
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2011, 11:44:37 PM » |
|
i'm really disappointed that they kept those awkward child child the child vocals in favor of the won one won one vocals
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
JeremyM
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 27
|
|
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2011, 12:03:23 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it in there even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal"). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. Someone who should know told me that Brian decided to leave it out of BWPS as an artistic decision. It's in The Smile Sessions, and the liner notes say "Look (Song For Children) contains music from Twelth Street Rag / Music by Eday L. Bowman (Public Domain)" |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
JeremyM
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 27
|
|
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2011, 12:09:02 AM » |
|
i'm really disappointed that they kept those awkward child child the child vocals in favor of the won one won one vocals
The "won one won one vocals" are in the acappella Wonderful section of the "Smile Backing Vocals Montage". |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
pixletwin
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Gender:
Posts: 4941
|
|
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2011, 09:43:28 AM » |
|
i'm really disappointed that they kept those awkward child child the child vocals in favor of the won one won one vocals
The "won one won one vocals" are in the acappella Wonderful section of the "Smile Backing Vocals Montage". That settles order #1 for the fan mixes. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
|
|
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2011, 11:03:34 AM » |
|
I doubt "Look" ever had vocal parts lifted from "Wonderful" or "Child" in it. These elabrote fan mixes tossing pitch shifted vocals etc. on tracks they were never intended for can give interesting results, but ultimately, I find myself going back to the originals, or things that are closest to the originals.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
|
|
|
|
Micha
|
|
« Reply #19 on: October 29, 2011, 07:04:00 AM » |
|
I doubt "Look" ever had vocal parts lifted from "Wonderful" or "Child" in it. These elabrote fan mixes tossing pitch shifted vocals etc. on tracks they were never intended for can give interesting results, but ultimately, I find myself going back to the originals, or things that are closest to the originals.
Strictly speaking there is no original version of "Look", as it wasn't ever finished under that title and even recorded under another title. The liner notes claim that the early version of GV is the "original" version, which I would dispute. But your point is, I can see that, that you would have liked to have had the 1966 tape as is, which I can absolutely understand. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Ceterum censeo SMiLEBrianum OSDumque esse excludendos banno.
|
|
|
debonbon
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 197
|
|
« Reply #20 on: October 29, 2011, 07:25:58 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it in there even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal"). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. Someone who should know told me that Brian decided to leave it out of BWPS as an artistic decision. Liner notes on the single CD " Look (Song for Children) contains music from Twelfth Street Rag Music by Euday L. Bowman (Public Domain)" |
|
|
|
« Last Edit: October 29, 2011, 07:27:10 AM by debonbon »
|
Logged
|
A healthy...low fat or non-fat...healthy......blizzard.
|
|
|
Freddie French-Pounce
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1571
A.K.A. mrmoustachioto
|
|
« Reply #21 on: October 29, 2011, 08:34:47 AM » |
|
They're starting to grow on me!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Firemellow
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 27
|
|
« Reply #22 on: October 29, 2011, 10:15:35 AM » |
|
I do wonder if Brian would have kept the "12th st" quotes had the song been released in '67, and how much it would have resembled the BWPS version. One of my favorite pieces of the SMiLE puzzle.
Probably. I thought it was assumed it was kept off of BWPS for some sort of legal reason? I think it would have been a part of "Look" back in '66-'67 - Brian's contemporary quote is evidence that he wanted to keep it in there even after he was told it was copyrighted material ("I'll pay for it - you know I don't steal"). For BWPS I have a feeling they just didn't want to pay for its use, even though they could have done so had they wanted. Someone who should know told me that Brian decided to leave it out of BWPS as an artistic decision. Liner notes on the single CD " Look (Song for Children) contains music from Twelfth Street Rag Music by Euday L. Bowman (Public Domain)" Which, to state the obvious, means they no longer had to pay for it since it's in the Public Domain, being nearly 100 years since it was written. In 1966, it would not have been in PD. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Author
