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City Blues / Ballad of a Thin Man
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Just listening to Bob Dylan's Highway 61 Revisited, and Ballad of a Thin Man comes on...
That opening tack piano riff made me think my iPod had thrown a wobbly and jumped over to an early version, or a piano demo, of Brian Wilson's City Blues. Uncanny resemblance for those first few seconds, even though the pace is a little gentler in Dylan's tune.
Anyone else noticed this?
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that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..
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Funny how you don't notice something so obvious untill somebody tells you to look for it....
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Quote from: variable2 on May 01, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..
It's more of a similarity than the chords used. It's, erm, a very direct inspiration.
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It's more noticable on the "Cocaine Tapes" demo from 1982.
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Quote from: Wee Helper on May 03, 2009, 02:22:39 AM
Quote from: variable2 on May 01, 2009, 05:47:14 PM
that would be on account of the same 2 chords (b minor, e minor) being used in both..
It's more of a similarity than the chords used. It's, erm, a very direct inspiration.
not much more concrete and direct than harmony.. along with melody and rhythm..
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It seems inspired by the Dylan song, but I never thought of it before. I know the Dylan album and the two Brian versions pretty well and it just never connected. There is some of the same foreboding vibe on the 1982 recording.
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The first lyric line of Ballad of a Thin Man would seem a fitting description of Brian....and you KNOW something is happening but you don't know what it is...Do you Mr. Wilson?
Perhaps an idea for a cover for Brian to do? Perhaps patented BB background vocal sound in place of Al Koopers organ? Definitely. I can hear it in my head!
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Well, isn't "Ballad of a Thin Man" inspired by the blues standard "St. John's Infirmary"? I would suspect the latter song would have been a bigger influence on Brian if he was thinking of writing a blues number.
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Quote from: donald on May 05, 2009, 07:14:06 AM
The first lyric line of Ballad of a Thin Man would seem a fitting description of Brian....and you KNOW something is happening but you don't know what it is...Do you Mr. Wilson?
Perhaps an idea for a cover for Brian to do? Perhaps patented BB background vocal sound in place of Al Koopers organ? Definitely. I can hear it in my head!
Me too. Imagine Brian singing "you see this one-eyed midget, shouting the world NOOOO!". Hilarious!
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