Durrie Parks SMiLE acetates to be auctioned, Dec. 9-10

[send me a picture and i'll tell you]

Saw this on the Hoffman board:

https://entertainment.ha.com/c/search/results.zx?dept=2182&mode=live&auction_name=7433&consignor_no=174&type=friend-consignorlive-notice

[Julia]

Breaks my heart in a way. They belong in a museum with digitized copies to source for a 60th anniversary boxset.

As a big lost/obscure media buff, the sad reality is the fans always care more about the art than the people who actually own it. Piracy is a necessary "evil" to ensure preservation in a world where film companies don't put most of their libraries on streaming, where videogame companies lose the original source code of their classic games and where music companies allow priceless reels to go missing from their vaults.

*steps off soapbox*

Anyway, I hope whoever can afford to buy these takes good care of them and backs them up immediately.

[juggler]

So.... how did VDP come into possession of a 'Time to Get Alone' acetate?  Is there an untold story behind this?  Did Brian offer VDP a chance to do lyrics for the track?

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So.... how did VDP come into possession of a 'Time to Get Alone' acetate?  Is there an untold story behind this?  Did Brian offer VDP a chance to do lyrics for the track?

Could this explain it: The original Brian~produced Redwood (Three Dog Night) version being cancelled by the other Beach Boys ?
And btw: where is the BW/VDParks' "Sunflower Maiden" in all this ?

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[harveyw]

I think these acetates are the same ones that Jeff Gold at Recordmecca auctioned some years back.
https://recordmecca.com/item-archives/beach-boys-8-original-smile-acetates-from-the-collection-of-van-dyke-parks/

[send me a picture and i'll tell you]

The auction's tomorrow. Apparently BRI is trying to procure them. There seems to have been some online bidding already.

[Julia]

The auction's tomorrow. Apparently BRI is trying to procure them. There seems to have been some online bidding already.

Yeah I was shadowing the other forum and read their discussion of it. I'll take their word that BRI is bidding and doesn't want any fan efforts muddying the waters and raising the price. Otherwise I was going to try to coordinate a fan effort across all boards plus reddit to pool our money and keep these songs out of the hands of a greedy hoarder who won't digitize and share their contents. We'll just have to hope for the best I suppose.

I hope if BRI does obtain them, they make it all available to the public. Even if most of the songs are only slightly different, I'd pay full price to have the "Durrie Cut" of SMiLE in my collection. Especially since all these other legacy boxsets we've been promised seem to have stalled. (Was I dreaming or weren't we supposed to get a SMiLE rerelease by the end of this year? Why is there no further word on "Brian's Back" or "the Paley Sessions" even if they're still coming out in 2026 you'd think we'd get some promotional info by now!)

[send me a picture and i'll tell you]

Especially since all these other legacy boxsets we've been promised seem to have stalled. (Was I dreaming or weren't we supposed to get a SMiLE rerelease by the end of this year? Why is there no further word on "Brian's Back" or "the Paley Sessions" even if they're still coming out in 2026 you'd think we'd get some promotional info by now!)

I want Cows in the Pasture! That was supposed to be out this year. Maybe Darian will help Fred finish it and premiere it in England in 2063.

[Tricycle Rider]

They sold for $31.9 thousand dollars! 

[SMiLE-addict]

Are acetates this old, like ... still any good anymore? If you stuck them on a record player would you get anything besides a bunch of noise and scratches?

[Dan Lega]

The auction's tomorrow. Apparently BRI is trying to procure them. There seems to have been some online bidding already.

If BRI wants them, why didn't they get them all those years ago when they would have been much cheaper?  There was no bidding required then.  Just a straight out purchase of $10.000 from some company Durrie gave them to to sell.  And they probably could have gotten them cheaper from Durrie, herself, as there would have been no middle man to pay.

[Julia]

If BRI wants them, why didn't they get them all those years ago when they would have been much cheaper?  There was no bidding required then.  Just a straight out purchase of $10.000 from some company Durrie gave them to to sell.  And they probably could have gotten them cheaper from Durrie, herself, as there would have been no middle man to pay.

Who the hell knows. Im pretty damn salty about the situation myself. I was going to try to coordinate a group effort but held back when I saw that the ""experts"" at BRI had it covered. Now I just feel played for a fool and these recordings that are very precious to me will never be heard. Beach Boys once again doing everything they can to fumble their own legacy and that of their greatest work (none but the hardcore fans have heard SMiLE except in that awful TSS format and probably walked away with a mediocre impression). Bunch of fucking amateurs if you ask me. I thought they'd have put in a ridiculously high secret max bid and had round the clock interns refreshing the page every microsecond to be sure they'd get it--you'd think a wealthy corporation could manage such a thing with arguably their last great unreleased collection at stake. Guess that was too much to ask of ol' Mike in between Trump/MAGA performances.

Can you tell I've become bitter in my old age? 

[BJL]

If BRI wants them, why didn't they get them all those years ago when they would have been much cheaper?  There was no bidding required then.  Just a straight out purchase of $10.000 from some company Durrie gave them to to sell.  And they probably could have gotten them cheaper from Durrie, herself, as there would have been no middle man to pay.

Who the hell knows. Im pretty damn salty about the situation myself. I was going to try to coordinate a group effort but held back when I saw that the ""experts"" at BRI had it covered. Now I just feel played for a fool and these recordings that are very precious to me will never be heard. Beach Boys once again doing everything they can to fumble their own legacy and that of their greatest work (none but the hardcore fans have heard SMiLE except in that awful TSS format and probably walked away with a mediocre impression). Bunch of fucking amateurs if you ask me. I thought they'd have put in a ridiculously high secret max bid and had round the clock interns refreshing the page every microsecond to be sure they'd get it--you'd think a wealthy corporation could manage such a thing with arguably their last great unreleased collection at stake. Guess that was too much to ask of ol' Mike in between Trump/MAGA performances.

Can you tell I've become bitter in my old age? 

My recollection is that they were digitized at the time of the first sale, unless I'm misremembering. If that's true, and assuming it was done even remotely properly (which I hope to God it was), than those infinitely duplicable digital files are more valuable than the acetates themselves at this point, which are only going to sound worse with every play and every year...

That said, I hear your bitterness, absolutely.