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Author Topic: Hereos and Villains - dif versions - Beautiful Dreamer  (Read 2600 times)
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« on: August 22, 2011, 03:57:34 PM »

Hello fellow obsessives Smiley

I was thinkn back to when i was last watching beautiful dreamer, and a few other bits and pieces you also get with BWPS DVD, and saw a 10 sec clip of when BW first performed H&V's live as a solo artist.

Is this version available to view anywhere on youtube as a whole?

also, as this version is a bit before BWPS 2004 Live at Albert Hall was done, is this version dif, and if so where, to the version since put down on BWPS (and since played live like the BWPS studio version)?

i think it had a musical comp of other elements, but that might just be wishful thinkn on a memory if you get me? hope it isn't.

also if it is diff, would it be right to view it as a good bridging reference from SMiLE versions done in 67/68 etc, up to BWPS done 2004-onwards

like, how was he viewing it at that moment when he's rediscovering it and playing with a band live for the first time in 30 years
against, 2004 Albert Hall BWPS, what key elements have stayed right thru it instrumentally and vocally, same as to what is removed or then added

sorry for the ramble - looking forward to some info on this, cheers for your help!
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2011, 04:19:07 PM »

I haven't watched Beautiful Dreamer in years....  Are you talking about the tribute show performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILE08Oom78
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 04:35:10 PM »

I haven't watched Beautiful Dreamer in years....  Are you talking about the tribute show performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GILE08Oom78

I think that might be it! Love and Mercy's a lovely tune, heard afew dif live performances of this song
interesting defo! the words are a little dif i think on the bicycle rider bit? it's not as long as i rember it?

cheers!
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 06:08:12 PM »

Yes indeed that's the clip they showed in Beautiful Dreamer - it's basically the single version with "Bridge To Indians" tacked on as an ending.  Being a relatively new fan and seeing him perform this live for the first time at that show (the DVD was the first Beach Boys related DVD I got) was quite an experience.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2011, 05:28:26 AM »

I'll never forget that. The Mrs. and I were in the audience that night (March 29, 2001). I remember when Brian announced, "Here we go with...'Heroes And Villains'..." and it didn't quite register at first. I remember thinking, "Hmm, okay, cool." And it took until Brian sang the first line that it finally clicked...the wife and I must have screamed like little girls; she nearly tore the sleeve off my sweater. And then when they did the "bridge to Indians" I almost wet myself and wondered what else they would add on and whether I'd need a body bag...well, no more add-ons, ergo no body bag.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2011, 10:02:56 AM »

Really like this versionto be honest, BW's voice also is good on this, think he sings with abit of excitement and his voice sounds nice and trebly, nicely harks back to his angelic singin in 60's 70's a bit? a kinda joyous take on it with the band not quite as slick as 2004 which i kinda like alittle if you get me
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 10:39:31 AM »

Seeing Brian open for Paul Simon in July, 2001, I was astounded when he announced during the set "Here's some songs to make you smile". Just the fact that he grouped "Our Prayer", "Heroes & Villains" and "Surf's Up" together seemed like an acknowledgment that this material was important (he introduced "Surf's Up" as a song that combines music and poetry). "Heroes & Villains" was the 45 single version, of course, with the "Bridge to Indians" added to the end.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 01:50:33 PM »

I remember that Probyn said that around that time, they tried to sneak in "In the cantina..." during rehearsals, but Brian would sternly say "NO CANTINA!" when they'd do that, so instead they just rehearsed it when he wasn't around. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 03:13:32 PM »

Seeing Brian open for Paul Simon in July, 2001, I was astounded when he announced during the set "Here's some songs to make you smile". Just the fact that he grouped "Our Prayer", "Heroes & Villains" and "Surf's Up" together seemed like an acknowledgment that this material was important (he introduced "Surf's Up" as a song that combines music and poetry). "Heroes & Villains" was the 45 single version, of course, with the "Bridge to Indians" added to the end.

this sounds great! I'd love to have been there

has this been circulating anywhere? really interested to hear this from 2001
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 04:12:17 PM »

BWPS 2004 Live at Albert Hall was done...

No such version exists.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 04:43:01 PM »

BWPS 2004 Live at Albert Hall was done...

No such version exists.

Sorry, The Royal Festival Hall 2004
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