That's very interesting. I think Murry's importance and stature will rise a bit in the fullness of time.
We'll see.

  Andrew G. Doe,   Murry did not sell "Sea of Tunes" behind Brian's back! Brian and all the Beach Boys signed a waiver authorizing the Sale...  Stephen Love personally collected the waivers from the principals. There was the contention that Murry may have forged Brian's signature... at some point in the discourse... but it simply "was not" true!

When David Bowie was David Jones:

 

This is not always true. A buddy of mine dominates over his older weakling, cowardly brother even though he's the youngest. It's quite a sight to see.

Does he live in North Korea by any chance?

Are there any photos of Carl's full guitar collection?
Did he own any Strats?

This is not always true. A buddy of mine dominates over his older weakling, cowardly brother even though he's the youngest. It's quite a sight to see.
I could certainly imagine Dennis imposing his will on his older brother Brian.

That is the old pecking order in a family.   I have three sons.  The oldest looked after the younger ones, like a great big brother.  The baby of the family is "always" the baby of the family. 

Yes I heard it from a huge BB fan & friend.

I pretty much give Marilyn a pass. What she had to deal with and that Brian actually was actually into her sister it was too much.
They were young and not many people are equipped at that age to deal with mental disorders.
I am most interested in her book and her chance to tell her side. I imagine she will leave out much of the dirt for the sake of the daughters and grandkids but we'll see.

Have you heard she is writing a book?

[Did she not take it seriously]

I pretty much give Marilyn a pass. What she had to deal with and that Brian actually was actually into her sister it was too much.
They were young and not many people are equipped at that age to deal with mental disorders.
I am most interested in her book and her chance to tell her side. I imagine she will leave out much of the dirt for the sake of the daughters and grandkids but we'll see.

I've read many times about things Brian said about not wanting to live... And I remember Marilyn, in an interview for a documentary (I think it was IJWMFTT) talking about how Brian wanted to die, but then she said that it was "all very innocent". I always wondered what she meant by that... Did she not take it seriously?

There could also be a genetic element but am not sure. Reading the famous Murry letter it seemed like his father may have had some issues as well. Brian's attempt to "self-medicate" probably exacerbated his issues beyond repair.

I've always believed Brian had a stroke and this is why his face/mouth tilts to a side. Stroke unfortunately damages the brain.

Without going looking for the source, I'm sure Brian has said that the drugs he took (I'm assuming he means self prescribed) basically "messed with his mind".

It's pretty easy to confuse onset of schizoid symptoms with acid hallucinations.

He would have seen Carl as a suppressive and would have tried to fire him. He would have Dennis and Al tested for Thetans at their own great expense.  Mike would also have written a concept album about LRH.

Don't want to hog the thread but am curious about my question below.
thanks

Rocky, I'm curious about your mindset back then, I guess this will be covered in the book but was wondering why you didn't just maybe with your football background tackle Carl and Dennis and smack them around a bit rather than go for the full beat down. I can imagine Dennis and addicts are difficult/annoying to deal with.

I spent my whole life drifting
Underneath the sun
I would have wanderer foreveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
If your breeze hadn't come
You must be an angel

Love WHERE I BELONG.
I think Carl's voice really shines on this record, his vocal peak. He was a true master vocalist.

Where I Belong (5/5)
Getcha Back (5/5)

Mike was pumping gas but I think he would have made an excellent traveling salesman. Kinda like what he does now but without the Hawaiian shirts.
Bruce without music would have been a successful florist, owning a chain of flower shops.
Carl, a high school history teacher.
Dennis would work in the tool business.
Of course Al would be a dentist.
David an addiction counselor.

Mike had a lot of image changes from 65 to 75. His look in '69 with the large white cloak was my least favorite, like some ex-communicated monk who stumbled upon the stage by accident.

That's a heavy article.
I read Wouldn't It Be Nice when it came out in the early 90s now I think it was basically a Landy-controlled project.

I saw the last Pet Sounds tour with the orchestra & band. It was excellent. Curious how this one is.

Rocky, I'm curious about your mindset back then, I guess this will be covered in the book but was wondering why you didn't just maybe with your football background tackle Carl and Dennis and smack them around a bit rather than go for the full beat down. I can imagine Dennis and addicts are difficult/annoying to deal with.

Dear SteveMC, thank you for your post about not being that concerned about spelling and grammar... I try not to be so anal retentive myself! But it does help to know I have a great editor. I'm not a big fan of punk music...however I loved Sid Vicious and the Sex Pistols!(not sure if there punk... more Grunge I think... there's so many categories these day's)

I think because of social media I've started to care less & less about spelling and grammar. It's kind of like listening to old school punk music, it cleanses your need of the singer being in tune all the time. :-)

someone criticized my spelling... and my use of dot dot dot..

I'm sure your editor will do what is necessary in that department, while no doubt keeping to your writing style.

My only problem is with one name. It's MARILYN. I before Y.

Keep on posting, Rocky----it's a most interesting read!

I used to buy Bass Player magazine regularly in the 90s and she was featured in an issue.
It was a great interview but I remember she said Brian's charts were a little amateurish or something like that.

Rocky, I will def. be buying your book and all the BB books coming out. Had two questions.

1. Will you consider self-publishing on Amazon? I have a friend that does this and doesn't have to share any profits with a pub company. As you prolly know, self-promotion these days with social media, forums & etc seems pretty efficient.

2. You may have answered this but with your football background couldn't you have tackled Carl or Dennis and just slap them around a bit, why did you go for the full beat down/knockouts? Just curious about your mindset back then.

With the benefit of hindsight... would I do anything different? What a question... Is there  anyone on the PLANET that can honestly say... NO I WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT...   One thing I would not do different... would be ... WHEN BRIAN CALLED ME UP SIX MONTHS, to the day ironically, AFTER I NO LONGER WORKED FOR HIM... AND SAID "HEY BIG DADDY" WHAT'S HAPPENING.... and I said who is this... to which he said... "BIG DADDY" WHAT'S GOING ON...   ...   ... (after a moment) I said... Brian?... he said yeah... what are ya doing... I said... I didn't think you were talking to me... he said... I'm calling you aren't I... why don't you come over I'm partying...(after reeling from disbelieve) I said ... are you on greentree? he said yeah get your butt over here I got a cold one for ya...to which I replied... is that a cold shoulder... or a cold  beer... Brian let out one of his famous belly laughs... that only he could do... I had no doubt it was him then... as AMAZED as I was... and as excited as I was... I said I gotta take a shower... he shot back... I gotta jacuzzi... I said give me five... he said don't give me no jive... I said if I'm lying I'm dying... he hung up!!! I immediately called Stan, at his house in Laguna, and told him... to which he said... you'r fucking kidding me? I said... I SWEAR TO GOD... get your ass up here... I'll see ya at Brian's... Stan say's... he doesn't call me... I'll see ya in an hour!!! I was at Brian's pad in a flash...THAT'S ONE THING I WOULD'NT DO DIFFERENTLY... When I got there  he was outside in the driveway waiting for me with a cold one in one hand, he was drinking, and a cold one in the other hand for me... COORS... ONLY BRIAN!!! I spent the entire day there with Brian... Stan showed up in an hour... and we had a BLAST... playing piano and singing songs together... and laughing our asses off... Carolyn, the live in nurse, barbecued burgers out back by the jacussi for us... and aside from the beer drinking... it was as if we had just seen each other yesterday! To know more you'll just have to read 'WIPEOUT" when it comes out... but I can tell you this... you wont believe what happened next week when end ... when he showed up in my driveway in his powder blue caddy...