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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Glenn Frey Discusses The Beach Boys/Pet Sounds on: February 01, 2016, 05:09:05 AM
https://youtu.be/oxUPNnmk2xA

Caroline, No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2qibx9IPo
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Don Was - what happened? on: January 31, 2016, 02:51:21 PM
Thank-you.  Wink

who was don was before don was was don was?

According to Wikipedia, he was Donald Fagenson.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Was
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1966 on: January 31, 2016, 07:32:06 AM
Throw in Rubber Soul from Dec 65 and I'm good.
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Don Was - what happened? on: January 31, 2016, 07:29:59 AM
who was don was before don was was don was?
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if.... on: January 31, 2016, 04:26:45 AM
What would happen if Brian took a month or two, with just him in a room with a keyboard and a Tascam Portastudio or something simmilar. No Co Producers, No Co-writers. No Thomas or Bennett.

Would we get something closer to NPP and TLOS, or would we get stuff akin to Love You or Friends?
truthfully, it would sound like his first solo album. He loved working with synths & midi, having that control and speed of working.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 06:26:33 AM
^^or Roger Christian, Van Dyke, Tony Asher & Jack Rieley...or not  Cool
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Morricone/Brian connection on: January 30, 2016, 04:12:08 AM
Esquivel - Surfboard
https://youtu.be/2NglD0H-cps
Just for the hell of it.
This clip doesn't show it but he loved percussive vocals too.

The Morricone clip was excellent.
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 03:53:12 AM
good stuff
We'd have been graced with the following songs:

Summeruff Love
Kal Kan Kalling
The Barker Man
Black Labinessence
Catch a Wave (and a Frisbee)
Collie-ving This Town
The Warmth of the Dachshund
Ganz Allein (German Shepherd Version)
Boogie Woofie
Fetcha Back
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 03:52:39 AM
Amazing. I will now forever think of Al Jardine as a duck.
Brian going fishing for ideas while the others are on tour in the tall grasses and flora.
What if the four ducks in the sky were The Beatles

Trying and failing to find online that illustration from Millward's book  which depicts the Boys as animals wading through long grass… Broan's a bear, Al's a duck, Bruce might be a raccoon … I think.

Anyone able to provide a link here?



County Air by George Chastain, from the Byron Preiss.  Reproduced utilising M7 & ISP technology processes under 3400K source lighting.

35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 29, 2016, 02:50:03 PM
I admit, I laughed but I felt wrong, so wrong.
Bruce is obviously a poodle.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 28, 2016, 02:31:38 AM
This thread stopped being interesting the moment it started to be about the posters.
but most every thread ends this way
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 27, 2016, 05:11:04 AM
I don't see a relation between assault and being PC. Sorry --but maybe Rocky can knock you out too and then you can get back to us with your analysis.

This is one helluva roller coaster ride, people. One thing I'll say for Rocky, leaving aside all else, is that he seems to remember how to be loose, live in the moment and not be overly PC and uptight, like so many people are nowadays, an approach that was synonymous with the 1970s but is endangered today. I kind of envy that....
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 26, 2016, 07:04:21 AM
Just wondering what I would have done if Carl cursed me out. Since I know me  Smiley I would have cursed him back and would have said
 "*** off you ****** ***hole. I'm TRYING to save his life. I'm doing MY job, you worry about yours."

...but I wouldn't have punched him.
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 25, 2016, 03:52:37 PM
This ice bath story is a good one. I imagine anyone dating Dennis in the 70s did their fair share of illicit substances.

I also wish Carl ducked. Carl never had a threatening or intimidating presence. I feel it unnecessary to crack him with an overhand right/sucker punch.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 25, 2016, 03:27:55 AM
Timothy B Schmit would have been a good touring musician for the Beach Boys. He's a great harmony singer.
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 24, 2016, 09:14:34 AM
LOL. I love Air Supply though. Russell Hitchcock is one of the best singers.


Frey said it himself...without Henley, Eagles were Air Supply.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don Henley/Mike Love on: January 24, 2016, 09:05:55 AM
Felder did get a giant pay day after his court case ruled in his favor.  But, yeah, he and the other Eagles were equal members of the group by contract according his book.

Also like Al he was always hoping that the main songwriter would write with him and get more of his compositions on an album.

Felder is my fav. musician in that group. He has a very smooth guitar style. The book was okay, I had wanted more info on their recording process & gear.
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What collaborations/projects have the BBs turned down? on: January 23, 2016, 11:18:57 AM
Might not count but I thought Terry Jacks submitted Seasons In The Sun and The Beach Boys passed on it.
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 23, 2016, 03:55:26 AM
Elvis's early band Bill Black, Scotty Moore & D.J. Fontana.
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 22, 2016, 02:18:35 PM
Imagine though if Brian wasn't the goose laying the golden eggs.  I imagine he would have slipped through the cracks and passed away many years ago.
At the same time Brian had some of his own meager defenses and would turtle up when needed --so I've read.

I try to imagine how Brian felt about the way he was seen as the "cash cow" (and sometimes not much more than that) by so many people around him.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 22, 2016, 12:03:41 PM
I guess the problem is at the end of the day "GREATEST" is subjective.
A great musician or singer is a little easier to list. Also it's tricky when there's a mix of talent levels for ex. I like Steely Dan's music but Fagen's voice, to me, is ugly.

Nirvana left me cold but it's just individual opinion.



With some obvious exceptions, always thought they were four guys in search of a good song, especially when they were only three. The Doors leave me cold; CCR have some great songs and then they have some great variations on those songs and then they have some variations...; as for Mr Reed, I love his New York album and I love the early Velvets but the 'experimental' stuff does nothing for me. I think you might have a case for Zappa, but maybe he was too obtuse for a lot of people. The Byrds? Not really. It's not like I don't like this stuff (with the exception of The Doors), I just don't think they're on the same level as Brian and the Boys in terms of invention and hooks and melody. I know they're largely Canadian, but, for all their career was pretty short, I'd take The Band over any of the above, with The Beach Boys and Steely Dan ahead of them. If I could limit my Springsteen output to Born to Run tthough Tunnel of Love, I'd have him on my list, but then - despite his band - we're heading into singer-songwriter territory where, for me, Dylan, Simon and Newman are out in front (and Mitchell and Young - though I far prefer the former - if we're allowing Canadians).
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was musical memory the secret to Brian Wilson's genius? on: January 22, 2016, 11:06:33 AM
I have a friend just like you in some ways. He can sing harmonies on one take but change the key on him and he get's frustrated.
I have relative pitch, changing keys is no an issue but I will sing flat notes here & there. Trade-off I guess.
Interesting read. For years, music teachers have had me tested because I seemed to display characteristics of having perfect pitch.  For example, in an a cappella group, we were given our pitches to start, and I commented that the director had changed the key a half step up from the week before. She asked how I knew. I didn't know how I knew, I just did. After more testing, it was decided that I don't have perfect pitch. Instead, I have strong music memory paired with excellent relative pitch. So, while I can't listen to a song and tell you what key it's in, once I know a song, it's always in that key unless I mentally transpose it.

I do hear music in my head all the time. Mostly songs or song fragments that I know. Unfortunately, I don't have Brian's genius for taking that music and making something new from it.


That seems to me like a real gift, though I suppose it could also seem like a curse. Have you found a way to use it fulfillingly? Does it bring you pleasure? I have no musical talent, skill or gift other than that of profound enjoyment.
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Hi, Emily!

I've always enjoyed music, so it's all good. I  took a lot of years of piano, self taught other instruments in a very amateur way, and sang in a whole lot of vocal groups growing up. I originally wanted to become a professional musician, but allowed people to talk me into a more "practical" area of work. I let life get in the way of some of my instrumental skills, but I've always involved myself in music in some way. I sing in a trio that does local performance work, and am really getting into playing the ukulele in the last few years.

The up side of the music memory/pitch thing is that I rarely sing out of tune. The downside is, when others do, it's almost painful; and if the key gets changed on a piece that I'm singing, I have to do some mental gymnastics to make sure my brain doesn't try to "correct" it to the original key.
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48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 22, 2016, 10:09:09 AM
There was a time when REM would be on such lists but they have been forgotten.
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was musical memory the secret to Brian Wilson's genius? on: January 22, 2016, 06:56:01 AM
That memory ability must've been a big help in teaching vocal parts to the guys. I remember reading somewhere that his Mom said he could hum some song perfectly as a 3 yr old.  Such a memory though won't write good songs for you and he surely put in a lot of hard working analyzing the arrangements of the four freshman.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is THE most underrated Brian Wilson song? on: January 22, 2016, 03:05:16 AM
Melt Away...had it been produced differently, say, in the style of Pet Sounds it would be much loved. Great chords & melody.
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