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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love & Beatles - Spiritual Regeneration --- what is this?? on: Yesterday at 11:47:08 AM
I've had this for a couple years now. The only two voices I can really identify are Paul and John.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The new Beach Boys shows are a spectacle on: Yesterday at 02:22:12 AM
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3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: An Autobiography by Don Goldberg on: August 20, 2019, 04:38:54 AM
This sounds like a very interesting book. I actually really like all of the Don Goldberg tracks that I've heard. Sweet and Bitter is one of my favorite Mike leads. I honestly don't think Don is much of a singer, but the full version of "In The Country" would have been cool to hear with Al or Carl singing lead. Or even Brian doing a non falsetto type of lead. The thing that confuses me the most about the song is how the full band version and the commonly booted version are so vastly different. This whole story gives me an interesting "What if?" question. Imagine that Don Goldberg had replaced Bruce in the group, and the whole history with Blondie and Ricki(that might not be the right spelling lol) had never happened.
4  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Woodstock 50th - Full audio as it happened, listen (free) on the radio here... on: August 17, 2019, 10:55:09 AM
One thing that I can't understand is how did they manage to get the legal clearance to release the performances of every single artist and band? It just have been a nightmare to work out, especially since many of the artists are no longer living.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: August 17, 2019, 06:26:30 AM
Hmm.  Grin
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: August 17, 2019, 02:23:56 AM
I saw Mike & Bruce's Beach Boys and Ringo at Ravinia on Sunday night. Here are my thoughts...

The Beach Boys band was on fire. Mike's lead vocals on the hits were very strong, and he was moving around the stage more than we've seen the last couple years. That was very cool. Ike sounded absolutely fantastic on the falsetto parts, specifically Don't Worry Baby. His voice is so strong and cuts through the mix perfectly, in a way similar to BW's. He can sing in that very high register without sounding "wimpy".

Bruce's only lead vocal during the entire night was the bridge of Surfer Girl. My Dad (who is a casual BBs fan, not an expert) said that it seemed like Bruce's role in the touring group had been diminished, with his lack of leads and audible keyboard playing. However, as I explained to him, even if Bruce's ONLY contribution was singing BBs backing harmonies, that'd be a significant contribution. Singing BBs harmony is very hard, and to be able to do it perfectly every night, makes you an incredible musician in my eyes.

Stamos was there. For the beginning of the show, I felt like he was hogging the spotlight. He was kinda upstaging Mike and Bruce, which felt a little weird at a Beach Boys concert. A couple songs in, however, something changed, and he let Mike do his frontman thing. Stamos' lead vocal on Forever was great though, and I'll never complain about having a Dennis song in the setlist.

Despite California Sun, Rockaway Beach, Summertime Blues, and Here Comes The Sun all being covers, they didn't harm the pace of the show. The audience was really into California Sun when it kicked off. I think most people thought Summertime Blues was a BBs song. And Rockaway Beach, with Cowsill's perfect fast tempo, had amazing energy. The only point of the show where I felt the energy dip was Pisces Brothers, as I've felt since 2014, however maybe a dozen people actually gave the song a standing ovation (maybe lots of George Harrison fans in the audience)

Many of the songs we've come to expect in a M&B show were cut from the setlist, since they were playing the show w Ringo. No Darlin, Why Do Fools Fall In Love, Little Honda, Disney Girls, SIP, Then I Kissed Her, Rock And Roll Music, etc... But that didn't really harm anyone's enjoyment of the show. It was still a great overview of The BBs catalog, with fan favorites like It's OK and The Warmth Of The Sun (with a terrific lead by Ambha Love)

Sometimes it can feel like the hits are played on autopilot, but songs like 409, Rhonda, and Surfin USA (which the group has played millions of times) had an incredible punch.

One complaint I have with the show, is Stamos completely took over the drums for the second half of the first set, including the car set and DWB. He's a fine drummer, but when compared to Cowsill, his tempo and energy sounded really amateur. The tempo on Surfer Girl, with Stamos on drums, was kinda all over the place. But the harmonies were so exquisite, I couldn't mind. Maybe it's just because I'm a musician, that I noticed the tempo fluctuations when Stamos took over. It wasn't the end of the world, even Dennis' tempo could shift during the song. Cowsill is really good at staying in the pocket, and he shines whenever he picks up the sticks.

Having Scott, Christian, Jeff, and Ike all play guitar gave the band a great rock sound. All of the guitarists complemented each other's playing, and didn't step on each other's toes. My ideal situation would be for Ike to continue to sing the falsettos, and when Jeff's voice is healed, have him sing his more mid-register leads like Darlin. This was truly a great lineup of musicians, who have all earned their stripes to be on stage with The Beach Boys band.

Overall, it was one of my favorite BBs shows I have been to. Everyone had a moment to shine. Tim's keyboard playing was astonishing as usual, I can't believe he can cover so many parts. Mike and Bruce had great energy as the resident official BBs members. If anyone is feeling hesitant to see Mike's Beach Boys, I really recommend seeing them. They have totally stepped up their game since Totten took over as musical director, and if you go to their shows you'll be treated with great harmonies, an interesting setlist, and wonderful musicians who seem to love what they do. You can't go wrong. It's funny, I'll sometimes skip a song like Little Deuce Coupe if it comes on shuffle, but when I hear it in person, with the pounding drums, chugging guitars, and soaring harmonies, I remember how genius early hits like that were. This band pays great respect to the original arrangements and intentions of the songs. It seems like Mike takes a lot of care in creating the setlists, and putting songs together in a way that works and keeps the energy up.

Despite my minor frustration with things like Stamos' drumming, or a relatively short setlist, I'd still give this show a 10/10 for being a great BBs experience. I look forward to seeing Mike's band again, as well as Brian's. They totally compliment each other in my opinion, even though I'd obviously prefer to see them together.
Nothing to say about Ringo's part of the show? My 2 cents: I thought the All-Starr band was a nice idea when his bandmates were people like Levon Helm, Rick Danko, Felix Cavaliere, Billy Preston, Randy Bachman, Dave Edmunds, Timothy B. Schmit, Burton Cummings, John Entwhistle. Since then, though, I have just wished he would do a show of all Ringo songs. To my knowledge, he only did this a couple times, during the Mark Hudson years. One of those shows was on VH1 Storytellers. Killer set list, and "the Roundheads" rocked much better than any of the All-Starrs.
I totally agree. I wish he  would reunite with Mark Hudson. In my opinion he brought out the best of Ringo since his early collaborations with his ex Beatles bandmates. Ringo kind of "lost his way" in the late 70's and most of the 80's, but he did some great stuff with Mark and the Roundheads.

Autocorrect keeps wanting me to change Ringo to Dingo. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about, I just thought it was funny as hell.  LOL
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Three new albums in as many years - more reissues to follow? on: August 16, 2019, 02:27:23 PM
You did not call Mike a Nazi though, I'll give you that.  Roll Eyes
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Three new albums in as many years - more reissues to follow? on: August 16, 2019, 11:41:20 AM
There is an "opinion", and there is pure ugly hatred. Wishing and hoping for the death of someone is disgusting and offensive, and doesn't belong on this board.

I'll ask the same question of you, Jay. Where did I post that I was "hoping" for anyone's death?? The OP is the one who posted "time is running out for him". As for the deathbed comment, we're all going to face that someday but I did not wish that nor state that I wished him dead.
"The only thing that gleams positive is that yes, time for him is running out... ".
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Three new albums in as many years - more reissues to follow? on: August 16, 2019, 11:19:38 AM
There is an "opinion", and there is pure ugly hatred. Wishing and hoping for the death of someone is disgusting and offensive, and doesn't belong on this board.
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Woodstock 50th - Full audio as it happened, listen (free) on the radio here... on: August 16, 2019, 11:06:06 AM
There are two songs from the Jimi Hendrix set that aren't on the 38 disc set or any of the other ones. The tapes do exist, and the Hendrix fan community is quite unhappy, to put it nicely. I don't blame them.  Grin I'd give anything to have that 38 disc version.

Yes, the two tracks where Larry Lee sings lead. The Hendrix estate blocked them and has blocked them before. Something to do with them paying the Lee estate royalties? Anyway it's not the fault of the set's producers that the two tracks are omitted, for the record.

Is *anyone* listening to this?  Huh

The most pleasant surprise I heard was the set by Bert Sommer...the singer/songwriter who refused his manager's request to open the show, which led to Richie Havens opening the show and playing for hours lol.

But the legend is that Sommer was actually very, very good yet got left off most official releases and even the commemorative plaque at the festival site...and yes, the "great unknown" hype was justified IMO, because his version of S&G's "America" was stunning, and the standing ovation he received for it was well-deserved.

Just listened to the set by "Quill". Santana's career-making set is coming up at 2PM EST if anyone is interested.
The "official" explanation from the Hendrix estate is that Larry Lee's guitar is out of tune. I suspect that maybe the real issue is that Larry played a Gibson, while Jimi played a Fender, and the two tones just clashed. Not only did Larry play and sing those two songs, but he was also given a guitar solo in "Red House", "Voodoo Child(Slight Return)" and " Jam Back At The House". I'm curios if any of the new CD set's have those solos intact.

I'm listening to it!  Grin I really  enjoyed Quill's set. This is actually the first time I've heard anything at all by them.

Bert Sommer was a damn good singer and songwriter. He is very underrated.
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Woodstock 50th - Full audio as it happened, listen (free) on the radio here... on: August 15, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
There are two songs from the Jimi Hendrix set that aren't on the 38 disc set or any of the other ones. The tapes do exist, and the Hendrix fan community is quite unhappy, to put it nicely. I don't blame them.  Grin I'd give anything to have that 38 disc version.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 13, 2019, 05:41:04 AM
I saw him in 78 on the infamous Australia/New Zealand tour. There is enough footage from that period to draw your own conclusions, and besides, Carl was the one having issues, again well documented.

My feeling was always this. When he started solo I thought if the opportunity came up, he owed the fans and himself a decent Beach Boys tour. He was that good and confident (for him). That opportunity came in 2012 successfully. I never had any real doubts it was going to be a one off only because his touring style and demands is completely different from his cousins.

After saying 2012 was it for me I somewhat reluctantly went to the opening Final PS show I 2016 at the request of my son. Who wouldn’t want to share an experience like that? That show, while ok, confirmed what we see now. As I said in an earlier post his stage manner and singing has deteriorated 25% at least in the last 3 years. Probably the same again since the C50.

While I appreciate those just wanting to see him under any circumstances, the guy owes me zip. I’ll continue playing the music, listening on Spotify etc and if he makes some money through those mediums, more power to him, but I can not see him the way Little Richard, Chuck Berry played their final shows or Jerry Lee Lewis still does. Sorry.
Do you mind if I ask you about the 1978 show? Which one was it? Was Carl noticeably in bad shape?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 13, 2019, 05:32:52 AM
here's Brian in 1999 singing Caroline, No: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhWznlP9_54

Looks like he's been to the Bruce Johnston school of live keyboard performance
That was incredible!  Shocked He actually did the falsetto parts!
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: August 12, 2019, 11:44:24 AM
Jessie Reiswig, I believe you're correct. The original speed version of "Caroline, No" is still only available on the Pet Sounds Sessions box set. Unfortunately, this version isn't available on streaming services, such as, Spotify. Also, Spotify mistitles the stereo sped-up version that's included on Classics Selected By Brian Wilson as original speed.
It was also released on a single disc promotional sampler of the box set as well. But since it's only a promotional item, it will obviously be quite difficult to find.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 11, 2019, 01:52:48 AM
I'm curios to hear from anybody who saw Brian in the 1970's and 80's, and how it compares to the Brian of 1999 to today. I've read about Brian being very animated in the 1970's at certain shows.
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: August 07, 2019, 07:18:37 AM
I get the message "Only available for subscribers" when I click on the link. I'm a big fan of Elvis's 1969-1972 live period.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Noven Jaisi on: August 07, 2019, 07:14:13 AM
 Roll Eyes
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Drives a cartoon around--animation in cinema and on TV on: August 07, 2019, 12:35:03 AM
Alright then!  Grin Here's one of my favorite Mickey cartoons.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PYQYGnQeXw  The opening bit with Mickey mixing the potion is my all time favorite Disney animation moment.


And now for something completely different(what an original line, huh?  Grin): The Little Match Girl made by Columbia in 1937. This is beautifully animated and produced. I'll warn you though, this is a heartbreakingly sad cartoon that has reduced me to tears more than once. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFFNhvDyiAU
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Drives a cartoon around--animation in cinema and on TV on: August 06, 2019, 02:53:51 AM
I'm actually a pretty big fan of classic animation. I'll warn you, I could easily give you a few dozen links!  LOL
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Drives a cartoon around--animation in cinema and on TV on: August 06, 2019, 02:34:39 AM
This is my all time favorite animation. The colors are so vibrant and brilliant! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-RuBfKfPOk
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: August 06, 2019, 01:57:31 AM
Here's a video of Carl being interviewed by Wolfman Jack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8ujAcclGHM I'm posting it because I happened to get a copy of Wolfman Jack's 1995 autobiography not to long ago, and Wolfman tells an interesting anecdote about this interview. Apparently Brian was the one who was supposed to be interviewed, but when he came out and sat down, he suddenly froze for a few seconds, and then bolted out of the room. 
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Blues through Rhythm and Blues to Soul on: August 05, 2019, 11:55:24 AM
If you want to hear a good example of early r&b, check out the original version of "Cherry Pie" by Marvin and Johnny, from 1954. Skip & Flip had a bit with it in 1961 I believe, but in my opinion it can't touch the original.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: Pacific Ocean Blue (Dennis Wilson) on: August 05, 2019, 11:50:42 AM
I think "Thoughts of You" perhaps should have been the closer. TOY is one of those songs that leaves me totally drained, emotionally and spiritually, you know? I always quit listening to the album as soon as that song is over. I just can't hear anything else after that.

I see where you're coming from--those ascending strings at the end... But I'm happy with the way things are. So you only ever listen to side one!     

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I'm not familiar with Ultimate Bamboo, as far as I know. I have a boot of songs from the sessions, and some of them are quite interesting. My favorite is the "dirty" ending of Wild Situation.  Evil

Sorry, got the spelling wrong--this Bamboo/Bambu business is utterly confusing at times. Grin

I think it's a fascinating compilatlon. With notes by Jason Penick--what more could one wish for? Roll Eyes 

http://www.danaddington.com/denny/newbamboo.html
Oh, I listen to it all. I just save TOY for last. I use it as kind of a "reflection", I guess. Maybe that's not quite the right word. I mean, you get all of this brilliant music from this guy who was very nearly as talented as his brother, but then at the end you get a picture of a guy who was haunted by his own demons.

This just got way deeper than I intended.  LOL

I remember seeing that website in the early 2000's when I was new to the internet and knew relatively little about Dennis. But I always wanted to get one of those cd's somehow.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: Pacific Ocean Blue (Dennis Wilson) on: August 04, 2019, 10:59:09 AM
I have this album a 5, only because 10 was not an option.  Grin

Ha, yes. This album was the recent subject of the indefatigable Watamushi's discussion of BB songs at Hoffman, where the general opinion was that "Farewell My Friend" would have made a better album closer. "EOTS" to me sounds much more final and appropriate.

I bought the Deluxe reissue of POB to help ease Dennis into the UK album charts but I soon gave it away to a friend. The bootleg version burnt for me by a Capitol Board poster years earlier says it all and my precious copy of Ultimate Bambu easily takes care of the rest.     
I think "Thoughts of You" perhaps should have been the closer. TOY is one of those songs that leaves me totally drained, emotionally and spiritually, you know? I always quit listening to the album as soon as that song is over. I just can't hear anything else after that.

I'm not familiar with Ultimate Bamboo, as far as I know. I have a boot of songs from the sessions, and some of them are quite interesting. My favorite is the "dirty" ending of Wild Situation.  Evil
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / Other Solo Albums / Re: Pacific Ocean Blue (Dennis Wilson) on: August 03, 2019, 04:53:02 PM
I have this album a 5, only because 10 was not an option.  Grin
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