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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: Today at 11:43:37 AM
One thing that I really hope they do is get Stephen Desper involved in doing mastering of the full Sunflower and Surf's Up albums as part of this set. I know we all have these albums, but if we can get versions that sound as good as those study videos Mr Desper did, I'd gladly buy them again.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: Today at 02:58:56 AM
Presumably though a point comes where a judge has to rule that something is uncopyrightable by virtue of not being music.
Exactly. Is "Commonwealth" a "song", or just an impromptu half mumbled piss take of the politics of the day? But then again, it can never hurt to copyright something just for the simple reason that it exists, right?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: Today at 02:50:53 AM
Murry EP?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: Yesterday at 11:08:06 AM
Ok, here's a weird question; do informal studio jams count as unreleased songs?  Grin I was just reading the Beatles recording sessions book, and I noticed a few entries where the group apparently did some sessions of just raw jamming during the Sgt Pepper sessions. Would they count as songs? I have a feeling that the Get Back session tapes would be extremely difficult to sort out from a legal perspective, because it would come down to trying to define what would be considered and "unreleased song", and what would be considered just an impromptu jam made up on the spot for fun.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: December 11, 2019, 10:40:14 AM
Jay, what exactly is this? Is this the famous "Sand" demo you've mentioned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_apVH6PQTc
Indeed it is. That's the original acetate that surfaced not to long ago. I had never heard of the song before, so I'm not sure if it's a previously unknown recording, or if it's already known to collectors and I somehow missed it.  LOL
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 11, 2019, 10:33:31 AM
That Instagram post is very interesting. Is it a new clip of him, or an older one that they just decided to use? The harmony part he sang was pretty nice.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 10, 2019, 11:48:55 AM
I can't wait for this! We're coming up to possibly my favorite Beach Boys era(the 1969 era tracks, and going into Sunflower followed by Surf's Up).
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: December 10, 2019, 02:10:18 AM
I have listened to several of the songs from the new album, but haven't heard the whole thing yet. This is very similar to the beach boys C50 reunion album, in that it's surprisingly great at times, and is far better than it has the right to, to be frank about it. The one big down side is the actual production and mastering. There is brickwalling, and the vocals at times are even distorted. The vocals and drums sound "dead". That's really the only way I can think of to explain it. There is also detectable autotune, which was my biggest fear.

And here is the whole thing, on YouTube! (Thanks!!!)

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kABIg1FciE-wz-9Lz_rQ1TZeiZdBfme-M

Yes, I noticed autotune as well. I have no problem with it, nor did I have a problem with it on TWGMTR.

Really looking forward to hearing it all!
The one part where I thought the autotune was too much was on "Danny And My Ponies". I thought it was a great song, but the
Robo Pete" really took something away from it. Hopefully it'll get added to the setlist, because I really think it would be better in a live setting.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This Week in BB History December 6-18 on: December 09, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
The '86 "25th Anniversary" special needs its own "Mystery Science Theater 3000" treatment. Including the little interstitial bits in and out of commercial breaks (not on most copies which seem to come from a Japanese laserdisc).

Brian waving to Ray Charles. Mike blurting "Don Ho, what are YOU doing here?". Belinda Carlisle having a song-length near-wardrobe malfunction. Brian's awful teleprompter (or cue card) reading. Glen Campbell totally biffing his lines on "I Get Around." The general "b-list" (with a few exceptions) nature of the guest list in general.

There's an interview somewhere (I think reprinted in that "In Their Own Words" book) about Mike being ticked off that Billy Joel turned down doing the 25th Anniversary show. I guess Mike felt Billy owed the band a little considering as he had opened for the BBs years prior.

There's a great account of the pre-taping audio work for the show in the Gary Usher diaries book. It's kind of amazing the show came off at all considering how dysfunctional the pre-production work went. Landy butting in. Usher trying not to usurp Melcher. Al doing his infamous bit with Usher about the money he lost 87 years prior. Carl and Al refusing to sing on the Landy track.
The thing that sticks out in my mind regarding that special is Brian mouthing the "script" along with one of the guys when they were speaking(I think maybe it was Mike?), and Joe Piscopo's horrible Bruce Springsteen impression. I also remember Carl seeming to get really emotional during "Heaven". At one point you can actually see him swallowing hard between verses.
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: December 09, 2019, 05:45:07 AM
I have listened to several of the songs from the new album, but haven't heard the whole thing yet. This is very similar to the beach boys C50 reunion album, in that it's surprisingly great at times, and is far better than it has the right to, to be frank about it. The one big down side is the actual production and mastering. There is brickwalling, and the vocals at times are even distorted. The vocals and drums sound "dead". That's really the only way I can think of to explain it. There is also detectable autotune, which was my biggest fear.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett's \ on: December 07, 2019, 11:21:56 AM
Me too, damn it.  Angry  Grin
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: December 06, 2019, 01:14:51 PM
"Who" has now been officially released, and the entire thing is on Spotify. "Detour" is an incredible song! Roger sounds just like he did in the 70's, I sh*t you not. 

Goodness. Let's hope Mr Tubey does the decent thing and comes through with the entire thing too (I'm not on Spotify).
This message was actually supposed to be a message to you, but in my excitement I screwed it up!  LOL Spotify is easy to do, and it's totally free. But I'll check to see if it's on YouTube.
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: December 06, 2019, 05:35:58 AM
"Who" has now been officially released, and the entire thing is on Spotify. "Detour" is an incredible song! Roger sounds just like he did in the 70's, I sh*t you not. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 04, 2019, 11:19:21 AM
I miss Borders, and I’m sure at some point Barnes & Noble will join them in the graveyard as well (I'm down to two locations within reasonable driving distance, where it used to be like 5 or 6). But Borders had *awful* prices. Barnes & Noble is overpriced, and Borders as I recall was even worse.

Most of the stores I remember, both in my youth and even more recently, seem to be have disappeared. Tower Records, Circuit City, Toys R Us (recently re-opened a couple locations, but it’s more a PR thing than back to being a real chain), Kay Bee, Borders, Suncoast, “The Wherehouse” (probably more regional), Blockbuster Video, Hollywood Video, the list goes on and on.

And the funny thing is, the big box stores (Target, Walmart, etc.) aren’t really filling those niches. I recall a year or two ago when Toys R Us went under, all the articles said Target and Walmart would move in on that market/territory and stock more toys. Newp. They suck.

And, more unsurprisingly, stores are continuing to carry less and less music and movies. I’m guessing music will be completely gone from Target, Walmart, and Barnes & Noble (a little rack of overpriced “collectible” vinyl doesn’t count) in the next few years (I think “Best Buy” has already eliminated it). I’d expect physical video media to follow suit in the next several years, perhaps relegated to the same sort of cheapo DVD rack you see at Rite Aids and 7-11 stores.


 They'll have to pry my physical media from my cold, dead hands.
Amen.  Cool
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 03, 2019, 01:26:11 PM
I miss Borders, and I’m sure at some point Barnes & Noble will join them in the graveyard as well (I'm down to two locations within reasonable driving distance, where it used to be like 5 or 6). But Borders had *awful* prices. Barnes & Noble is overpriced, and Borders as I recall was even worse.

Most of the stores I remember, both in my youth and even more recently, seem to be have disappeared. Tower Records, Circuit City, Toys R Us (recently re-opened a couple locations, but it’s more a PR thing than back to being a real chain), Kay Bee, Borders, Suncoast, “The Wherehouse” (probably more regional), Blockbuster Video, Hollywood Video, the list goes on and on.

And the funny thing is, the big box stores (Target, Walmart, etc.) aren’t really filling those niches. I recall a year or two ago when Toys R Us went under, all the articles said Target and Walmart would move in on that market/territory and stock more toys. Newp. They suck.

And, more unsurprisingly, stores are continuing to carry less and less music and movies. I’m guessing music will be completely gone from Target, Walmart, and Barnes & Noble (a little rack of overpriced “collectible” vinyl doesn’t count) in the next few years (I think “Best Buy” has already eliminated it). I’d expect physical video media to follow suit in the next several years, perhaps relegated to the same sort of cheapo DVD rack you see at Rite Aids and 7-11 stores.

Suncoast video!! Oh God, I haven't thought about that in years.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 03, 2019, 01:19:44 PM
The Best Buy near me doesn't sell music, period. It's all technology stuff. I very much miss the Barnes and Noble book and CD store near me.
I miss Borders.
Actually, the place I was referring to in my post you quoted was indeed Borders. Oops.  LOL Yes, I miss it greatly...
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The What Are You Reading? Thread on: November 30, 2019, 11:48:34 PM
I'm reading the autobiography of Etta James right now. Man, she had a rough life.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 29, 2019, 09:58:12 PM
I thought Best Buy quit selling CDs period earlier this year, like around June
I think it was a little longer than that. I thought they quit selling cd's about a year or two ago.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 29, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
The Best Buy near me doesn't sell music, period. It's all technology stuff. I very much miss the Barnes and Noble book and CD store near me.
20  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: November 28, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
I only listened to it once, and I wasn't all that impressed. But I'll give it a few more tries. There is apparently going to be a "deluxe version" featuring two previously unreleased demos. One of them is called "Sand". It recently came up for auction as an acetate.
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: November 28, 2019, 09:34:11 AM
A third song from the new album has been released. I think it's called I Don't Want To Get Wise.
22  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Who on: November 28, 2019, 07:27:06 AM
Time to return to this fine topic...

The Who were arguably at their most psychedelic on Sell Out, and the most psychedelic track on that album has to be "Armenia, City In The Sky". (This is when Jay steps in and tells me I'm talking nonsense. LOL )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7wrwctQS3s
I actually agree completely.  Grin I often think of "Sell Out" as their psychedelic album and period. Another contender might be the outtake "Melancolia". I'm still trying to come up with a hypothetical post Sell Out but pre Tommy album, by the way.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 26, 2019, 11:21:54 AM
Instantly available streaming is a double edged sword; on one hand it's great to get everything immediately, but the bad part is that there is no actual disc and case to hold and no booklet to go through. I "cut my teeth" buying cd's at the CD store at the local mall, and consequently learning to love  many bands and styles of music. It hurt my heart to see the CD store close down for good, along with various other CD stores. I'm firmly stuck on the CD format of music, and probably always will be.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 24, 2019, 02:31:05 PM
Don't give me any ideas to do a "chopped and screwed" mix of Feel Flows LOL
Bring it!  Evil
25  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Cats on: November 24, 2019, 02:19:17 PM
If I can figure out how to translate, I could share it on my Facebook page.  Smiley
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