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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: December 05, 2022, 05:00:55 PM
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While we're at it, who on earth does the "dom dom kindom" part? It sounds like Billy to me.
I always assumed it was Blondie (?) Gotta be Billy. No? Pay close attention to the way he sings/pronounces the "dom" in the word kingdom. It doesn't sound like any group members to me, except possibly Dennis.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: December 05, 2022, 12:08:10 PM
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I've definitely never been shy about saying that "Make It Good", while truly interesting and impressive in its scope and willingness to diversify their sound, has always been somewhat difficult to easily digest. The stripped back mixes of "Make It Good" and "Cuddle Up" on this set are revelatory and indispensable. I like "Make It Good" even more now, and certainly many other newer fans/listeners will be able to get at the song easier potentially, and it's also of course always interesting and instructive to hear stripped-back mixes.
Also, regarding a previous comment about wanting alternate takes of songs, I'm not sure how much of that stuff there is once you get into the later era, particularly the 70s. I don't think there's the same kind of full hours of take-after-take of backing tracks like with a lot of the 60s stuff, with an engineer calling out "Take 37!" So unless there's something notable and different about it, I'm not sure if there's much value in putting like a half-finished, aborted backing track take of "Hold on Dear Brother" that sounds just like the finished backing track, only with some stray note and then the whole take stopping. At that point, it makes much more sense, if one is inclined to present a backing track (or backing track with backing vocals) to use a finished take.
That's pretty much what I was getting at. It just seems like a "just for the hell of it" decision that really doesn't have a point. I get your point. I just think it would have been cool to hear a "take 1" or "take 2" of something. For example, I've always wondered if Marcella might have started out sounding more like the live arrangement in the early stages.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: December 04, 2022, 02:49:50 PM
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I really don't understand the point of the 2022 "Saga Trilogy". They could have put on the other Mt Vernon home demo instead. I also think it would be cool to hear some actual alternate takes of songs, instead of just a few sessions highlights.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: December 04, 2022, 01:49:47 PM
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Just had a listen to a couple of live tracks. Al's lead on "Don't worry Baby" is insane!  It really is one of his best ever lead vocals. Much better than the In Concert version, which itself isn't shabby. I agree. This version should have been used instead.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: December 04, 2022, 09:13:19 AM
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Just had a listen to a couple of live tracks. Al's lead on "Don't worry Baby" is insane!  That track really blew me away when I heard it! Damn near tear inducing!! One thing I noticed is that "Steamboat" to me sounds distorted and a bit "overloaded" in general. The actual mix of it was great. I heard details I'd never heard before. But it sounded almost too loud or something.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles’ Unheard ‘Revolver’’. - new “I’m Only Sleeping” video.
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on: November 05, 2022, 06:42:08 PM
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There is considerable controversy over the actual speed mix of take 5 of Rain on Facebook.
What’s the scoops? Tried to find on FB but too much content. Giles go a bit overboard with his new mix? I don't fully understand it, but the gist of it is that the original Rain master take was recorded with just guitar and drums at a very fast tempo. This track was slowed down, and then Paul overdubbed his bass on the now much slower recording. This was the master take, and what was officially released(once all vocals were added). The recording in it's original speed was released on the new box set. The thing is, Giles took the overdubbed bass and sped it up to match the speed of the original recording. A lot of people are saying the take should have been released without bass, as originally recording. But a bunch of people are saying that the sped up bass is in the wrong key, and that's the big issue. Very, very well explained! Very interesting debate. A little too much monkey business by Giles Martin. I wonder if Paul was consulted? I've also read a few people questioning whether the original take as released is even playing at the right speed. Some are finding it hard that Ringo could drum at that fast a speed. This is the recording in question, with the bass from the released version added and sped up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3IuNGxGVXk
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Beatles’ Unheard ‘Revolver’’. - new “I’m Only Sleeping” video.
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on: November 05, 2022, 04:13:29 PM
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There is considerable controversy over the actual speed mix of take 5 of Rain on Facebook.
What’s the scoops? Tried to find on FB but too much content. Giles go a bit overboard with his new mix? I don't fully understand it, but the gist of it is that the original Rain master take was recorded with just guitar and drums at a very fast tempo. This track was slowed down, and then Paul overdubbed his bass on the now much slower recording. This was the master take, and what was officially released(once all vocals were added). The recording in it's original speed was released on the new box set. The thing is, Giles took the overdubbed bass and sped it up to match the speed of the original recording. A lot of people are saying the take should have been released without bass, as originally recording. But a bunch of people are saying that the sped up bass is in the wrong key, and that's the big issue.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: September 29, 2022, 06:43:58 PM
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I decided to take a look on Amazon for myself. I didn't find the box, but I found a seven disc Use Your Illusion box set, the Beatles Revolver set, The Jimi Hendrix Experience Live At The Forum April 26th 1969, and at this point I can hear my empty wallet starting to cry. 
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail On Sailor box set
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on: September 28, 2022, 11:19:20 AM
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It was my idea to lead off with "Mess Of Help." I think it spotlights everything hot and new about this era in a solid punch. It screams "FM" and underscores what a powerhouse this lineup was on stage. Carl nailing a new Brian tune with the band smoking and singing their asses off. You can't go wrong.
Carl is really kicking some major ass on this version! I'm curious about the two versions of Out In The Country. Would one of them be the full backing track?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Wilson/Paley Sessions
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on: September 20, 2022, 02:54:38 PM
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Remember that comment made by Brian about Mike during the 1996 sessions? Something like "Do we need to get you a damn Maharishi robe to get this damn vocal?"? Maybe that gives a clue about how much Brian may have been in control and calling the shots back then. Just a thought.
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