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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys studio disasters and screwups? on: Yesterday at 08:26:56 PM
I remember a story a few years ago that seemed to confirm that a copy of the version of Till I Die with the original lyrics exists. Of course, that doesn't mean that the original master itself was erased.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys studio disasters and screwups? on: September 20, 2018, 02:43:34 PM
I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're after, but I'll give an example of what I think you're asking for. In the song Anna Lee, The Healer, you can hear a music stand and papers falling. At least that's what it sounds like. It's been quite a while since I've listened to it, so I can't say exactly when it happens in the song.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis on \ on: September 17, 2018, 02:18:10 PM
I've been doing a lot of thinking about this, and I think I've come up with a little "test" to help us out. Somebody noted that it's most obvious on the "hind" in the word "behind". Now, with that in mind, listen to the Smiley Smile version of Wind Chimes. Particularly the "im" sound. It's that same slightly nasal sounding whine.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 16, 2018, 06:36:07 AM
I can see that. I think if Reiley had been around I think Dennis may have been promoted as the main focal point
If only be could have overcome his drinking problem, I can see him becoming perhaps a "duel leader" of the group onstage. I'm thinking of the 1970-ish to 1974 period specifically.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis on \ on: September 16, 2018, 03:00:50 AM
You are, but we still love you.  Razz
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis on \ on: September 16, 2018, 02:06:11 AM
I actually thought it was public knowledge until I started going on message boards. I never thought to question it because I thought it was well known.  Grin
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 16, 2018, 02:05:13 AM
I meant if Jack had been around during Sunflower
Yeah, I misread.  LOL I've always thought of Sunflower as kind of Dennis's album.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 16, 2018, 01:58:41 AM
That’s what I mean. What would Brian sings have sounded like? I mean despite previously held beliefs, he was more involved with So Tough than previously believed. What would’ve happened had he been around during Sunflower? Personally I prefer what we got but it could’ve been interesting
According to Stephen Desper's notes on his videos Brian is all over Sunflower. Probably more than So Tough. I think perhaps if all three Wilson brothers would have stayed active, it just might have eventually pushed Mike out of the group. Perhaps Brian would have held enough power to keep the "TM axis" from taking over the touring backing group. But what about Blondie and Ricki? Did Blondie have issued with Jack?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis on \ on: September 16, 2018, 01:34:57 AM
I've always heard Dennis on that song.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 16, 2018, 01:23:52 AM
Ok here’s a question... how different do you think things would’ve gone down had Brian been more active during the Reiley era?
I think Reiley would have stayed longer. But then again, would Brian have embraced a new style of music?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: September 15, 2018, 04:11:49 AM
Yes - if you haven't yet ordered, by all means DO so!  This book is nice and thick (hence the higher foreign postage rate), but jam-packed with lengthy quotes & reminisces from Dennis collaborators, band members (both Beach Boys and "Bamboo" - the name he apparently gave his own band for the ill-fated POB tour), record company suits, radio station PDs, friends, ex-wives, POB observers...of notable interest are the many, many thoughts and memories of the late Trisha Campo, who was an observer, and sometimes participant, at most of the POB recording sessions. Also, reproductions of lots of internal CBS memos, promo labels, studio track sheets, AFM contracts...my sessionongraphy...and more! OH, and Alan Boyd's detailed description of the fabled POB tour rehearsal tapes (to me, this alone is worth the price of admission!). A fascinating, must read, folks!  And a great cover, too! Smiley

Seriously, they need to put out another Dennis set. The POB deluxe reissue was beyond magnificent, so much more than we ever hoped for. And then it has been mostly radio silence for a decade since (apart from a hand full of great Dennis tracks appearing on BB comps).
I agree 1000%. There is still studio material left to release, as well as the rehearsal tapes for the aborted POB tour. I dearly wish that the team that was behind the POB reissue could put their collective heads together and find a way to convince the powers that be to really consider it. This is actually a perfect time to do it
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 15, 2018, 02:04:36 AM

Exactly, PB. Surf's Up and, yes, Sunflower had decent exposure on FM progressive radio. WMMR in Philly loved them. The jocks were music junkies and understood the importance of the band, especially Ed Sciaky (rip). Ed was a friend who made sure I got to see the boys (among other groups) whenever they were in town and actually got to even party with them a few times. Man, what a great time to be alive. The 1971 Carnegie appearance was otherworldly in it's appreciation of the band. Very few, if any catcalls, thunderous applause for the new material as well as the old. With the combination of the FM stations up and down the east coast playing their newer material and their well rehearsed shows, they could do no wrong with the exception of letting Jack eventually slip away. Roll Eyes



Wow! Thank you for that post. Ed Sciaky...made my night reading this. Seriously, thank you. I'm smiling ear to ear and also digging out some pretty amazing audio from the dusty ol' collection.

I'll just say what OSD writes about WMMR and Philly radio, and Ed Sciaky...It's the good stuff. The really good stuff.

Some of what shapes my opinions on the Rieley era and the music/shows and what spoiled me on how good radio can be was growing up listening to Philly radio.

Without derailing too much, I'll say I grew up a little too late for Ed's original runs on powerhouse FM stations 'MMR and 'IOQ...but my formative music listening years when I really dove in headfirst included Ed's run on 94 WYSP. Ed's show "The Sunday Night Alternative". Free-form, intelligent, solid radio on Sunday nights.

For those who don't know, Ed is one of those DJ's responsible for breaking Billy Joel and Bruce Springsteen among others nationwide. Ed loved their earliest releases and would play them, talk them up, and promote them - Ed had the clout as a top FM host to where others would listen to him and his recommendations. This is why Philly is still one of Billy Joel's hottest areas to play in terms of fans. Ed was spinning Captain Jack, and that song is still bigger here than in most markets.

Look up the famous photo of Bowie and Springsteen...Bowie was a Sigma Sound and wanted to play his version of one of Bruce's tunes...anyway, read it online, it's a famous photo from '74 before Bruce really broke out nationwide with Born To Run. He was still playing college gigs.

Back to the music...I know, because I have it in my files (and it's available elsewhere) some tapes of WMMR playing "Take A Load Off Your Feet" when the SU album was new. They played the Big Sur live version of WIBN just before that. Other broadcasts of WMMR feature deep cuts like "Cool Cool Water"...Yes, Virginia, those songs were played on FM radio and fans in Philly were into that period of the Beach Boys. It wasn't all shouting for oldies and heckling the band.

For fans of the bootlegs, dig out the April 1980 KTSA show at The Spectrum taped off the air from Philly's WIOQ...the conversation near the end is Ed Sciaky and Michael Tozzi. So fans have heard Ed if they've heard that boot.

Random memory...Unless my memory is that bad, I was listening to Ed Sciaky's WYSP show on my Sony Walkman on a Sunday night when the word came in that Freddie Mercury had passed away. Naturally the rest of the show was Queen...and it was heartbreaking and beautiful, and the perfect show and station to be listening to when that happened.

I wish I had experienced Ed and WMMR back in the day...only thing to do is listen to whatever tapes exist and get to taste a piece of just how fucking good it was.

Thanks again for an awesome memory. The Beach Boys did indeed have a very loyal and respectful audience in Philly, and a lot was thanks to legendary DJ's and hosts like Sciaky, Tearson, Dye, etc.

Me right now listening to old WMMR tapes...  Rock!



Micheal Tozzi was a class act for sure. He was not only a good friend but a real tie die in the wool Beach Boy fanatic. We had some great times together. No one could match Ed's mellifluous delivery but Toz came closer than anyone else. I got to know him while he was at 'IOQ. He religiously played a BB cut on every damn one of his shows. I remember calling him once to see what track he played when I couldn't listen. He and Dennis became quite close and, according to Micheal, when Dennis played Philly, they'd get together. Micheal was a drummer and Dennis would actually ask him how his performance was that night (sounds like Brian, huh?). Mike would not pander to him and he'd give it to him straight, good or not so good and Denny took it in stride. I'll never forget when Micheal called me about Dennis passing away. As time went on, Micheal bought a Subway franchise in Upper Darby, Pa. and I became his biggest customer with him preparing meals for my customers. After that venture, he went to WJJZ Smooth Jazz. I always ragged on him and dared him to lock the studio door and play Pet Sounds but he did have a family to feed. What a great guy indeed.



Absolutely fantastic! Wow. I'm loving hearing all of this. Too young to be there and hear these radio legends in their prime, this is awesome hearing about them.

WJJZ? Wow, haha. I remember that station. I was riding home from the Philly airport late one night and the driver had it on and was grooving to it...a "smooth" version of Take Five. I was speechless  LOL

The Pet Sounds dare - classic! He should have done it!

Reminds me of a truly great Philly radio moment. Courtesy Ed Sciaky on a Sunday night on WYSP. I know it happened because I taped it and still have the full cassette.

Ed previewed his show earlier by saying he would be playing music from the legendary "lost" Beach Boys "Smile" album on his show. Holy sh*t, I couldn't believe it. I didn't have to work or do anything that night, and made sure I had a blank cassette and my FM antenna set up just right on my receiver. Made sure I was home that night.

Sure enough, Ed briefly talked it up on the show, and he didn't just play a few tracks. Ed played almost an hour of Smile music. No commercials. No commentary. No station ID's or bumpers. Just track after track of Brian's Smile music, uninterrupted.

I remember laying in front of the speakers completely amazed. Blown away. The whole bit.

Ed came on after the last track ended. He read from Derek Taylor's famous press release..."every meticulously crafted note...has been scrapped." It was exactly, perfectly, well-done. It was sad, and Ed's voice nailed the emotion perfectly. The best music in the fucking universe that never got released. This was when the idea of a finished Smile, no less with Brian playing it on stage on tour, was pure fantasy and thought to be impossible.

That was how good Ed's show was even in his later shows on 'YSP. Never forgot that...played that cassette to death and copied it for anyone interested.

WYSP also played Pet Sounds, Live In London in full...front to back, no interruptions or commercials. Imagine that...classic rock radio doing that. I know they did it because I still have those tapes too. It was the first time I heard the Live In London album, and as soon as Aren't You Glad came on, I was hooked. No, I was obsessed.

That's how good it was, Philly radio from MMR to IOQ to YSP. They respected the Beach Boys. That's why reading more stories about all of this is such a fun trip. This is the good stuff, and the memories are worth more than any amount of money.

Thanks again  Smiley


Damnit, guys, as a radio junkie I absolutely love hearing these recollections.
 
But I post the above statement with mixed feelings, since as I've expressed before, Mr. OSD drives me absolutely nuts with his incessant posts and sig line doing nothing but trashing "myKe luHv" or however the hell he spells it. As I've said before, many of those posts strike me as incredibly immature. And, while I've mentioned this to GF in a PM, I've never said it on the forum, but here goes - GF so often baffles me as he is responsible for some exceptionally interesting and well researched posts but unfortunately (I just had to use that word, right?) frequently finds it difficult to acknowledge contrary opinions, coupled with restating his opinion over and over again.

And Craig, you are more than welcome to rebut this, but seriously, you'll probably look better if you act as though this post is not worth your time and attention as far as a response is concerned. Smiley  That is unless you'd like to post more Philly radio recollections, which I'd love to hear. Whatever the case, treat this as my opinion, not a f*cking kick in the balls.

Anyway, thanks guys, for your radio recollections, I really enjoyed reading 'em.

And why am I even writing this? I don't know, as I've only consumed one Jack Daniel's on the rocks this evening, so I can't blame lauding these radio recollections on inebriation.  It's gotta be because I was inspired by Jay, hopefully to help keep his comment "I have to say that this is one of the most interesting threads this board has had in years" going.




This thread was going along so well; it was honestly one of the best here in a long time. Why bring in negativity?
I kind of get his point. After reading the In Concert book, it really opened my eyes to how bad the group had it at a pivotal point in their history. You really can't downplay how bad they had it for a while. They really did make a serious effort effort to change their style. As much as I loved the book, I have to admit that it paints a rather tragic story of a band that made a brave effort, only to resign to the inevitable. I think I'm dangerously close to talking about the book in a negative way(something that I would never intentionally do), so I'll end it here.

I also see your point as well. I agree that a thread as great as this needs to have the least amount of negative energy possible.

Edit: Perhaps I need to learn to read every post before I spout nonsense and get egg on my face.  LOL
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 15, 2018, 01:38:49 AM
Billy has to make it for the next Fear2Stop album.  Grin He has to listen to me, because I'm his manager.  Wink

LOL
B-side will be "long tall texan" with Billy yodeling! Wink
Dear God. I'm almost scared to hear the result of that!  LOL
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 14, 2018, 10:05:56 PM


Micheal Tozzi was a class act for sure. He was not only a good friend but a real tie die in the wool Beach Boy fanatic. We had some great times together. No one could match Ed's mellifluous delivery but Toz came closer than anyone else. I got to know him while he was at 'IOQ. He religiously played a BB cut on every damn one of his shows. I remember calling him once to see what track he played when I couldn't listen. He and Dennis became quite close and, according to Micheal, when Dennis played Philly, they'd get together. Micheal was a drummer and Dennis would actually ask him how his performance was that night (sounds like Brian, huh?). Mike would not pander to him and he'd give it to him straight, good or not so good and Denny took it in stride. I'll never forget when Micheal called me about Dennis passing away. As time went on, Micheal bought a Subway franchise in Upper Darby, Pa. and I became his biggest customer with him preparing meals for my customers. After that venture, he went to WJJZ Smooth Jazz. I always ragged on him and dared him to lock the studio door and play Pet Sounds but he did have a family to feed. What a great guy indeed.

Absolutely fantastic! Wow. I'm loving hearing all of this. Too young to be there and hear these radio legends in their prime, this is awesome hearing about them.

WJJZ? Wow, haha. I remember that station. I was riding home from the Philly airport late one night and the driver had it on and was grooving to it...a "smooth" version of Take Five. I was speechless  LOL

The Pet Sounds dare - classic! He should have done it!

Reminds me of a truly great Philly radio moment. Courtesy Ed Sciaky on a Sunday night on WYSP. I know it happened because I taped it and still have the full cassette.

Ed previewed his show earlier by saying he would be playing music from the legendary "lost" Beach Boys "Smile" album on his show. Holy sh*t, I couldn't believe it. I didn't have to work or do anything that night, and made sure I had a blank cassette and my FM antenna set up just right on my receiver. Made sure I was home that night.

Sure enough, Ed briefly talked it up on the show, and he didn't just play a few tracks. Ed played almost an hour of Smile music. No commercials. No commentary. No station ID's or bumpers. Just track after track of Brian's Smile music, uninterrupted.

I remember laying in front of the speakers completely amazed. Blown away. The whole bit.

Ed came on after the last track ended. He read from Derek Taylor's famous press release..."every meticulously crafted note...has been scrapped." It was exactly, perfectly, well-done. It was sad, and Ed's voice nailed the emotion perfectly. The best music in the fucking universe that never got released. This was when the idea of a finished Smile, no less with Brian playing it on stage on tour, was pure fantasy and thought to be impossible.

That was how good Ed's show was even in his later shows on 'YSP. Never forgot that...played that cassette to death and copied it for anyone interested.

WYSP also played Pet Sounds, Live In London in full...front to back, no interruptions or commercials. Imagine that...classic rock radio doing that. I know they did it because I still have those tapes too. It was the first time I heard the Live In London album, and as soon as Aren't You Glad came on, I was hooked. No, I was obsessed.

That's how good it was, Philly radio from MMR to IOQ to YSP. They respected the Beach Boys. That's why reading more stories about all of this is such a fun trip. This is the good stuff, and the memories are worth more than any amount of money.

Thanks again  Smiley
I wonder if a recording of this can be found anywhere.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 14, 2018, 09:07:22 AM
Billy has to make it for the next Fear2Stop album.  Grin He has to listen to me, because I'm his manager.  Wink
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 13, 2018, 10:04:53 PM
I have to say that this is one of the most interesting threads this board has had in years.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Recent thoughts on Jack Rieley by the Beach Boys? on: September 10, 2018, 08:58:00 AM
I wonder if a version of the song with Brian singing still exists? Even if he only sang one or two lines before bailing, it would be interesting to hear.
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: What are you watching now?/Favourite Movie of the Moment on: September 10, 2018, 08:44:49 AM
Is there movies/ TV series you'd describe "guilty pleasure"?
For me, it would be "The Golden Girls", and "Matlock".
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I just wanna know......... on: September 07, 2018, 11:24:39 PM
Now that is the post of the month.  LOL
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I just wanna know......... on: September 07, 2018, 09:46:37 PM
  Brian would have used the brim of the fire hat to cut into Mike's throat.  Grin "Love and fucking Mercy, motherfucker!".
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: So what did we all do today? on: August 30, 2018, 10:51:18 PM
Those look quite good.  Grin
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Recording of \ on: August 29, 2018, 11:20:42 AM
Craig, you need to write a book.  Grin
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Bedroom Tapes on: August 29, 2018, 01:47:26 AM
This is amazing.  Grin The fairy tale "theme" playing underneath Brian talking about "My Solution" was a particularly great touch. I've always thought of that music as very innocent and "childlike", and that's also a very good way to describe Brian's more "experimental" side, which is probably best evidenced in "My Solution". What an ingenious and effective moment.  Smiley
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Missing Surf's Up Tracks on: August 27, 2018, 11:16:50 PM
I remember reading that too.  Dennis was upset that efforts were made to make it appear Brian was more involved with the album than he actually was. 
I thought that was Bruce, who called Surf's Up "a great big hype!"

Bruce has pretty much said the same thing, but fortunately he didn't pull "Disney Girls" off the record. Bruce said they did the album in such a way as to fool their listeners into thinking Brian was more involved than he really was. Bruce arranged and sang a lot of parts on the record that normally would've been handled by Brian - they just didn't mention it at the time.
Now that's very interesting. With Surf's Up I actually thought it was the opposite, That Brian was actually on more of the album than has been generally known.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Channel on Sirius XM on: August 22, 2018, 12:20:14 AM
Just saw announcement on Al's FB page.
Last day for the Beach Boys channel is August 24.

Either Al is wrong, or the Sirius XM site is wrong.  The Sirius XM site shows channel 4 switching to Carolina Shag at 3 a.m. Eastern on 8/22. 
I've been reading elsewhere that the ending date is the 24th.
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