Back to the Steve Love topic... what do we know about Steve? Married, kids, things he's done in life broken down by year... does someone have any sort of timeline of his life? I'm still not clear why he is to be doubted.

And Mike Love is the 100% undusputed truth by a certain group of posters.

Not bad...

Back to the Steve Love topic... what do we know about Steve? Married, kids, things he's done in life broken down by year... does someone have any sort of timeline of his life? I'm still not clear why he is to be doubted.

I apologize for never keeping a journal or keeping track of these folks.  I still don't know how many wives Mike had - not that it matters - but some people here seem to focus on every date and detail.  I'm not one of them.  Maybe Rocky can share more about him, since they're friends?

Debbie you are so smart... I can't begin to tell you how accurate you are in your quick assessment of these people!  The trivial meaningless drivel that they wallow in... instead of things of actual importance!  You are a GOD SEND!!!   Bless YOU...

Back to the Steve Love topic... what do we know about Steve? Married, kids, things he's done in life broken down by year... does someone have any sort of timeline of his life? I'm still not clear why he is to be doubted.

Ditto. Let's focus on the topic at hand. If Rushton wants to jump in, so be it. He has the right, as do the in-crowd / morally sanctimonious.

If anyone knows where the skeletons are buried, it's Stephen. Hence his separation from brother Mike. Which is stupid, basically...blood should be thicker than water. No exceptions.

Here... Here... Doo Dah!  You astound me!   But you have to REALIZE... blood being thicker than water means nothing to mike-y!  It TRULY doesn't... "MONEY" is mike ONLY GOD!      He only comes out of his "SCHEMATATION" to SUE Brian for MONEY for SONGS that HE DID NOT WRITE!!!

Rocky, you are truly the Donald Trump of SmileySmile.net!

President TRUMP... Thank You

Stan, even though you're just a footnote in my book, why don't YOU TAKE YOUR FOOT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH for just a minute and explain to the SMILE READERS... how when you FLUNKED out of basketball and were UNEMPLOYABLE with NO DEGREE from COLLEGE and NO SKILLS other than playing bb - and your brother Stephen Love, manager of the Beach Boys and Brian's personal manager as well - "Magna Cum Laude" as I call him... GAVE YOU A JOB working for Brian... for $52,000 dollars a year (to basically drive up to Bel Air from Laguna and EAT while babysitting Brian!)  Then Stephen forced you to give him almost every dollar of your pay to him... to INVEST for you in "MAJOR INVESTMENTS" with the rest of the Beach Boys... I say MAJOR because when there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being INVESTED, there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being EARNED!  In your case around $750,000 dollars (all total throughout the years...that were basically GIVEN TO YOU!)  For example, "MoDaL."  I believe that was a chain of Motels in Texas.  Stephen put about $40,000 of your money into it (some of which he borrowed for you)... and YOU MADE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR... 20 YEARS... or was it 25 years? (FACT CHECKERS do the MATH please... over $250,000)  And when it was SOLD, you RECEIVED A CHECK FOR $170,000 DOLLARS!  Then there was the "SPAULDING RANCH" INVESTMENT (The one that caused such controversy) where Stephen invested around $35,000 for stan... and when as, "SOLE GENERAL PARTNER" of that INVESTMENT, meaning he was the control person, he "LEGALLY" SOLD IT and "RE-INVESTED" ALL THE Beach Boys MONEY as well as HIS OWN... about $300,000 DOLLARS EACH) in beach PROPERTY ON HANALEI BAY (NOW WORTH $25 MILLION!)  BUT HE PAID stan $175,000 DOLLARS CASH  from the sale of Spaulding even though his share was only $135,000... because he was once again taking care of his younger brother... and  stan was BROKE!    Let's see... then when you tried to get your DAD to take out a SECOND mortgage on his house... and he said he didn't feel comfortable doing it... that he couldn't SLEEP AT NIGHT!  You, Stan, "NEVER SPOKE TO YOUR dad AGAIN"... or Stephen!   OH, that was when Stan had to take a JOB... for the FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE!  A job UNLOADING PRODUCE at a GROCERY STORE late at night!  I can sure see why you would NEVER SPEAK TO Stephen again, Stan!  He happened to be at your dad's house when YOUR dad told you... "NO" on THE LOAN!   You never SPOKE TO EITHER ONE OF THEM AGAIN!  You BETRAYED Stephen... for what reason???  SAVING YOUR LIFE?... and investing the MONEY you made from the JOB Stephen gave you!  STAN wrote Stephen a LETTER RECENTLY STATING... THAT Stephen is "DEAD" to him... that Stephen is a "LOWLIFE."  He calls Stephen "COCONUT"!   "BROTHERLY LOVE RUNS DEEP IN THE LOVE FAMILY"... Stephen ALWAYS LOVED Stan, would have done ANYTHING for him... and THIS IS THE THANKS he gets?! ... And this is AFTER Mike-y BETRAYED Stephen for sending him a telegram at a 6-month meditation retreat in Switzerland, saying, "Now is not the time in your life to be stupid.  Get back here and rehearse with the band before the next tour!"  I guess you just can't take the word STUPID OUT OF...STUPID IS as STUPID DOES! (in the IMMORTAL WORDS OF FOREST GUMP'S MOTHER!)   Mike-y and Stan call STEPHEN "COCONUT"! Yeah, he was "NUTS" alright...for LOVING THEM!    

Okay, never mind what I said above.

Debbie... could you elaborate just a tad... clarification?  I don't even bother to read emily... neither does anyone else!

I just gave up on civil conversation on this board.  Nothing personal to anyone, just disappointed.  It's been such an ugly day in the world, I was hoping for something more.  Just feeling a bit raw looking at all the suffering.  Love & Mercy seems like a good idea.

I hear you loud and clear... Stephen has refused to post on this thread since the very beginning... when he saw how vicious the are to me!  Now he won't even POST on his new thread!  Stephen and I have decided to DIVORCE ourselves from the WICKED... and leave them to mike-y... THEY DESERVE EACH OTHER!  Don't let their POISON get to you... this kind of sh*t is EXACTLY why Brian CHECKED OUT!

Okay, never mind what I said above.

Debbie... could you elaborate just a tad... clarification?   I don't even bother to read emily... neither does anyone else!

So Stan... THE ONLY FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICK... TO "NEVER EVER" START A SINGLE GAME!  That's gotta be a record... '   Hey... I heard you're going to write a book...
That reminds me of the time I asked you if you had ever READ A BOOK... ALL THE WAY THROUGH... every PAGE...  AND YOU ADMITTED YOU HAD NOT!  You were 33 years old... it was 1983!  So... I LITERALLY CHALLENGED YOU... to READ "ONE" BOOK... every single page.  And you accepted the CHALLENGE... So I gave you the book... "How to win friends and influence people"... by Dale Carnegie!
You started reading it... and I would see it on the coffee table... as the days rolled by... After a week you were about a quarter of the way through it!  I could tell because the first 50 pages or so were separated from each other.  Another week later... about 100 pages were separated...  By the end of three weeks... you had read about 3/4s of... "ONE OF THE MOST SOLD AND MOST WIDELY READ BOOKS OF ALL TIME"... and then it just sat there... the last 35 pages remained UNOPENED!  So I asked you... did you ever finish reading this book?... as I held it up... so it was obvious the last quarter of the book had not been read...  AND YOU SAID... "No" (I said,  "Well, at least you didn't LIE!")  But Stan... we had a PERSONAL "BET"... a PERSONAL "CHALLENGE"... the whole CRITERIA... was SIMPLY... TO READ THE "ENTIRE" book...    Your response was... "It got repetitious.  I read the last page!" ' '

With both Debbie and Emily now posting on these threads, I firmly believe they have softened up the belligerent posts and nasty nasty nasty comments made by some of the Smiley Smilers.....which is all GOOD.  My ladies, keep posting and I'm speaking for all of us.   Dave

Debbie is GREAT... hope your right about Emily... that has not been the case!  She was leading the CRUSADE against me from the very beginning!  I think a lot of the "angry 13" took their lead from her... you might say... Emily created the "angry 13"!   I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS... If she can be POLITE... and not SO OPINIONATED... and not the KNOW IT ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING... fine...

Well said Rocky!  Hopefully everyone will be nicer to each other. 

stan... even though your just a footnote in my book... why don't YOU TAKE YOUR FOOT OUT OF YOUR MOUTH for just a minute... and explain to the SMILE READERS... how when you FLUNKED out of basketball... and were UNEMPLOYABLE... NO DEGREE from COLLEGE... NO SKILLS... and your brother Stephen Love, Manager of the Beach Boys and Brian's Personal Manager as well... "Magna Cum Laude" as I call him... GAVE YOU A JOB... working for Brian... for $52,000 dollars a year (to drive up to Bel Air and EAT!)  Then Stephen forced you to give him almost every dollar of your pay to him... to INVEST for you in "MAJOR INVESTMENTS" with the rest of the Beach Boys... I say MAJOR... because when there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being INVESTED... there are MILLIONS of DOLLARS being EARNED!  In your case... $750,000 dollars (all total throughout the years...that were basically GIVEN TO YOU!)  For example... "MODEL"... I believe that was a chain of Motels in Texas... where Stephen put about $40,000 of your money into it (some of which he borrowed for you)... ang YOU MADE A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH FOR... 20 YEARS... or was it 25 years (FACT CHECKERS do the MATH please... over $250,000) and when it was SOLD... Stephen GAVE YOU A CHECK FOR $175,000 DOLLARS!  Then there was BRUNER Oil... and the "SPAULDING RANCH" INVESTMENT (The one in question) where Stephen invested around $35,000 for YOU... and when as "GENERAL MANAGER" of that INVESTMENT He "LEGALLY" SOLD IT and "RE-INVESTED" ALL THE Beach Boys MONEY as well as HIS OWN... about $300,000 DOLLARS EACH... $630,000 in total) in PROPERTY IN HANALEI BAY (NOW WORTH 24 MILLION!)  BUT HE PAID YOU $170,000 DOLLARS CASH  even though your share was only $135,000... because he was once again taking care of his younger brother... and  you were BROKE!    Let's see... then when you tried to get your DAD to take out a SECOND Mortgage on his house... and he said he didn't feel comfortable doing it... that he couldn't SLEEP AT NIGHT!  stan "NEVER SPOKE TO HIS Dad AGAIN"... or Stephen!   OH... that was when stan had to take a JOB... for the FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE!  A job UNLOADING PRODUCE at a GROCERY STORE at night!  I can sure see why you would NEVER SPEAK TO Stephen again... stan! He happened to be at your Dad's house when YOUR Dad told you... "NO" on THE LOAN!   You Never SPOKE TO EITHER ONE OF THEM AGAIN!  You BETRAYED Stephen... for what reason??? SAVING YOUR LIFE!  STAN wrote Stephen a LETTER RECENTLY STATING... THAT Stephen was "DEAD" to him... that Stephen is a "LOWLIFE" calls Stephen "COCONUT"!   "BROTHERLY LOVE RUNS DEEP IN THE LOVE FAMILY"... Stephen ALWAYS LOVED Stan... would have done ANYTHING for him... and THIS IS THE THANKS he get's... and this is AFTER mike-y BETRAYED Stephen for sending him a telegram in India... saying... "Now is not the time to be stupid"... get back here and rehearse... before the next tour!     I guess you just can't take the word STUPID OUT OF... STUPID IS as STUPID DOES!  (in the IMMORTAL WORDS OF FOREST GUMP'S MOTHER!)   mike-y and stan call STEPHEN "COCONUT"!  Yeah... he was "NUTS"... for LOVING THEM!    

MoDal...for Motel Dallas I believe.

Not to get all Islamic on the Smile readers, I think it is appropriate to mention a key passage from the Qur'an that pertains to an important covenant. Before I get to that I want to explain that Muhammad was born circa 570 in Mecca, Saudi Arabia.  He is considered the last known prophet.  He gave the world the Qur'an.  The Qur'an is revered as the word of God, dictated to Muhammad by the archangel Gabriel.  It is accepted as the foundation of Islamic law, religion, culture, and politics.  
     The covenant I am referring to says:  "Be good to your parents, relatives, friends, orphans and the destitute.  You shall not expel your own people from your homes."  He warned about killing one's own people, expelling a family member from your homes, harming each other with sin and aggression, and asked:  "So what punishment do such people among you, who behave like this, deserve?  Disgrace in this world and to be driven to grievous punishment on the day of judgment.
     Allah is not unaware of what you do.  As for the people who trade the life of the hereafter for the life of this world, neither their punishment shall be lightened nor shall they be helped.  Those who commit evil and become encircled in sins are the inmates of hellfire; they shall dwell therein forever.  As for those who believe and do good deeds, they will be the residents of paradise and live therein forever.'

but what about the virgins?

So, when Mike-y LEVITATED (the only time in his spiritual life) and shook my hand over and over again while calling me a hero for the "NO DRUGS KNOCK OUT PUNCH!"  he later... turned on Stephen...(and BETRAYED Stephen) for sending him that AWFUL telegram that read: "NOW IS NOT THE TIME IN YOUR LIFE TO BE STUPID"... Get back here (from your ashram) and rehearse with the band... FOR THE TOUR in TWO WEEKS!  I told Stephen then, "Maybe it's not such a GOOD IDEA  to call a STUPID person STUPID!"  It's like trying to teach a PIG to sing... It doesn't work... and it "IRRITATES" THE PIG!  Mike-y ALL OF A SUDDEN... has a CHANGE OF HEART! (Huh... what a joke... HEART?) and "DECIDES" TO NOW SIDE WITH Dennis and Carl... to have Stephen REMOVED as MANAGER!  Makes "PERFECT SENSE"... You ALWAYS FIRE THE GUY WITH INTEGRITY... who RESURRECTS YOUR FLOUNDERING CAREER... INVESTS YOUR MONEY and MAKES EACH of YOU MILLIONS... and then there's that little matter of SAVING Brian's LIFE!  "THAT NEVER HAPPENED"... Marilyn didn't call Stephen when she walked in on Brian offering...(well, you know what) to their 7yr-old daughter!  And Stephen didn't "BEG" Marilyn not to have Brian COMMITTED to a MENTAL HOSPITAL (Shhh... don't say that too loud... the "angry 13" don't like to hear that... It's not respectful of Brian)  Where was I?  Oh, then Stephen hired Stan (when his name was still spelled with a capital "S") and that  "BULLY" Rocky (in the immortal words of David Frost... Shhh... Don't speak ill of the dead... We must be politically correct!) for after all it was those two "THUGS" (that Stephen hired) who "DARED" to keep "DRUGS OUT OF Brian's LIFE"... FOR THREE YEARS!... the FIRST THREE YEARS I MIGHT ADD... for those FIRST FEW YEARS are ALWAYS THE MOST CRUCIAL YEARS for the simple reason that if DRUGS are "NOT" kept out of the DRUG addict's life... "THEY OFTENTIMES ARE NOT HERE WITH US ANY LONGER, as in... they "DIE"!!!!  But who want's to be a stickler?  It's just a little "minor" point...  Brian still being ALIVE TODAY (at 73 yrs young), but who's keeping track of inconsequential facts like that?  I mean, what's IMPORTANT IS THAT Mike-y WROTE ALL THE SONGS... RIGHT, Mike-y ... Isn't that what you told Stan and me to...    Shhh... People get "KILLED" for saying the TRUTH! (If anything "EVER" happens to me... YOU All KNOW WHO DID IT!)

Rocky, was the whole incident with Stephen calling Mike "stupid", in your opinion based on your observations, some sort of unusual occurrence between these guys, and between members of the band in general? Was it a freak one-off incident? Did nobody else ever stand up to or talk to Mike that way? Or were words/insults like that thrown around between one another more regularly, and this one incident just happened to set Mike off? I would have guessed that between all of the Boys, as well as the Love brothers, that it wouldn't have been all that unusual for words like "stupid" to be directed at one another every now and then.

Thanks for saying what I've wanted to say to Pamplin in a far more temperate manner than I would have managed, William.
I would suspect Pamplin's book *will* come out, mind -- self-publishing is now easy for anyone, and as someone who has spent time around the self-publishing community (I've had books published through regular publishers and also self-published, so I'm not knocking it as a method to get work out) I would say Mr Pamplin is only slightly less literate, and only slightly more deluded, than the typical participant on the Kindle self-publishing message boards.
It's also likely that if he uses any kind of sense at all, he will have an "Amazon best-seller", and will come back to crow here about his great success -- just as someone recently managed to upload a photo of their foot to Amazon, get their mother and a friend to buy it, and have it go to number one for a couple of minutes in a tiny sub-sub-genre chart.
What he won't do, and I can say this as an absolute certainty, is make more than $100, total, from his "book"

Is that YOU in the middle of that picture... you look like 25 cents!

Well, I don't know how one would release a tape in a book... unless I had it transcribed... and it's very LENGTHY.  It's also "ONE" of the things that PREVENTS Mike from SUING ME!  That and the IMMUNITY Charles English got me... as a result of the meeting I took with Brian's Lawyers at the Mezzaluna restaurant in Brentwood! (Home of the Brentwood Butcher)

And this is why we can't have nice threads.

Rushton, can't you just leave this rubbish in the thread dedicated to you selling about fifty copies of your book, if indeed it ever sees print? (Should I mention here I'm also a published author? Or will you ask HOW MANY "COPIES" IVE SOLD   ))

I understand you're an elderly, apparently semi-literate fellow whose employment experience amounts to a) modelling, sometimes to sell smokeable toxins b) not being sufficiently good at sport c) bashing up drug addicts related to your former employer and d) not being able to find a publisher for your unreadable memoirs (and yes, since you've posted 'chapters' of them here, I am qualified to say this. They are - literally, essentially - unfathomable.)

And because of all that, because you're on the back foot in so many ways, because you're an older man with few real achievements behind you - except knowing quite a few people with genuine talent, which is a nominal achievement viewed through any justifiable prism - I have pitied you and ignored this rubbish up until now. But now you're pulling the same abusive, backward, self-serving sh*t in a different thread, on a nominally different subject. And you need to understand: no matter what the view count is, data which incidentally you persist in misreading, you are going to sell very few copies of that book to readers here. Maybe fifty, a hundred, for those who don't already feel they've fed the beast enough already. You were a novelty, when you arrived. A direct link to a band and individuals we, as fans and scholars, wish we knew better. And I understand you think you've been pulling a brilliant promotional coup on us. Maybe you have. I sincerely doubt it.

I came back after several weeks away, and was deeply intrigued to read this thread. Steve Love - though I'm aware you've collaborated in the past, if not on your daily posts - seems like an intelligent, EXONERATED (c) man, whose input I would be very keen to read more of. Your posts don't elevate discussions, they derail them. You have been pilloried on these threads, it's true, sometimes unreasonably, but you've also pulled an enormous amount of  -faced bullying yourself. My advice, unsolicited, is that you should now stop - for yourself, if nothing else. Your total sales to folk here probably peaked about two months ago, before you started posting WHOLE CHAPTERS full of ellipses-punctuated semi-information already present in the Gaines book. Every confused, smug, borderline-abusive comment you make from here on may well lose you a sale, should your book ever see print. Which, again, I sincerely doubt. You may not know how board stats actually work, but I suspect any decent online publisher will.

I am aware I may have crossed board lines with this post, and if so I accept the censure of the moderators. I only hope you see this, Rushton 'Rocky' Pamplin, and on some level understand it before or if it is deleted, and save yourself some time and money. I realise this is unlikely, but it is a genuine and sincere hope. I don't blame you for who you are - let's remember, you lived in a time in which your friends thought the best way to deal with their self-destructive, drug-addicted family member was to have you turn up at his sad little house party and deliver the 'most brutal beating ever' - but for your own sake, get the book published before you go on such an aggressive, contradictory sales campaign. I pity you, Rushton, and I mean that both literally and - yes - biblically. And I'm an atheist.

Regards,
William

YOU"RE A "CLOWN"... YOU JUST JOINED emily...

Interesting - two consecutive posts from The Rockster that might have been written by two different people...  

BTW, to answer the question originally posed: as regards all the stuff that's independently checkable, I'd have to say yes.

"doe doe"... Stephen wouldn't POST on this thread for anything in the world... I told him about this thread... and he said... "After the way they have VICIOUSLY and BRUTALLY  ATTACKED YOU... Ha... NOT IN A MILLION YEARS!!!  And as for emily... DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH!

Give the tape to a court reporter and have her make a transcript.

You'll GET WHAT I GIVE... WHEN I WANT... and to WHO I WANT...

With both Debbie and Emily now posting on these threads, I firmly believe they have softened up the belligerent posts and nasty nasty nasty comments made by some of the Smiley Smilers.....which is all GOOD.  My ladies, keep posting and I'm speaking for all of us.   Dave

Debbie is GREAT... hope your right about Emily... that has not been the case!  She was leading the CRUSADE against me from the very beginning!  I think a lot of the "angry 13" took their lead from her... you might say... Emily created the "angry 13"!   I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR A SINGLE WORD ABOUT THIS... If she can be POLITE... and not SO OPINIONATED... and not the KNOW IT ALL ABOUT EVERYTHING... fine...

Just curious, why would Stephen have been deposed at length for the Love-Jardine matter? Was it not regarding Al's use of the name Beach Boys, in his touring marketing? Just puzzled what Stephen, who would have been years removed, in terms of management, would have to add to the whole procedure.

It was indeed... to prevent Al from using the name Beach Boy and Friends... When Al was touring with Brian's daughters Carnie and Wendy and Michelle Phillips of "Wilson Phillips!"  Mike doesn't want anyone using Brian's... Beach Boys!

Doo Dah, you have found the answer why Mike is so angry recently about the songwriting lawsuit from 1994.

He wants the catalog or money from BW when it comes up for ownership changes in under the 1976 copyright act. Actual songwriting credits on those songs be damned.

I'm just saying, it occurred to me last night. What would appear to be ancient history (circa 1992) is not quite so ancient.

BINGO...and Mike will do "ANYTHING" to get the ownership of Brian's Music Publishing Catalogue... "Actual songwriting credits BE DAMNED!  Well said Doo Dah... I take my hat off to you!  This is exactly what Stephen and I were hoping would happen..."TALK ABOUT and EXPOSING Mike!" Melinda Wilson is the "ONE" who really needs to be INFORMED... and made AWARE! She is very bright and definitely has Brian's best interest at heart!

At what point are you going to release the tape?  In your book? Or do you plan to post the conversation on this forum?

Well, I don't know how one would release a tape in a book... unless I had it transcribed... and it's very LENGTHY.  It's also "ONE" of the things that PREVENTS Mike from SUING ME!  That and the IMMUNITY Charles English got me... as a result of the meeting I took with Brian's Lawyers at the Mezzaluna restaurant in Brentwood! (Home of the Brentwood Butcher)

Mike is loveless when it comes to Brian... Money is Mike's God!

Rocky, I just listened to California Feeling last night (it's been awhile since I listened to it).  Great job on the vocal   I've always liked that and it would not have been out of place on a Beach Boys Lp.  Did any of the other guys object to you recording a vocal, maybe feeling a little worried Brian might use you more?

:)Sorry I didn't get a chance to THANK YOU... for the compliment!  Before "doe doe" took it upon himself to "inform" us that Calif Feelin' was an American Spring song... even though you didn't ask about that at all!

Cheers Rocky!  . Regardless of who it was recorded for it's a great vocal and it would have been good to have heard you on more of Brian's songs.  .  Your voice on that recording sounded like an early 70s Brian (similar to the demo he recorded).  I like the American Spring songs. Do you still do any singing?

Believe it or not... that's what Marilyn used to say... She also said that Brian would sing the songs that I had been singing that day... and with HEAVY VIBRATO... my trademark!

This is all I can say about this thread,,,,  

I WAS SAYING YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY A MORON... if you don't GET IT!   It's like... Mike is Brian's NEMESIS... Mike is the ANTAGONIST of "WIPEOUT"... and Stephen is the UNSUNG HERO!  SOON TO BE THE "HERO" SUNG!!!

Doo Dah, you have found the answer why Mike is so angry recently about the songwriting lawsuit from 1994.

He wants the catalog or money from BW when it comes up for ownership changes in under the 1976 copyright act. Actual songwriting credits on those songs be damned.

I'm just saying, it occurred to me last night. What would appear to be ancient history (circa 1992) is not quite so ancient.

BINGO...and Mike will do "ANYTHING" to get the ownership of Brian's Music Publishing Catalogue... "Actual songwriting credits BE DAMNED!  Well said Doo Dah... I take my hat off to you!  This is exactly what Stephen and I were hoping would happen..."TALK ABOUT and EXPOSING Mike!" Melinda Wilson is the "ONE" who really needs to be INFORMED... and made AWARE! She is very bright and definitely has Brian's best interest at heart!

Debbie... I remember everyone being AWARE that you were coming to Hawaii... on that tour!  In particular, Marilyn... she was cool with it... "DIDN'T OBJECT"... or you wouldn't have been there.  And I vaguely remember the ride to the airport... you were "quite" that was one of the things Brian said he liked about you... and that it did'nt bother you that he did'nt talk much! (if at all).   Brian said you were nuturing... that was the feeling I got from you as well!  

Given that my trip was arranged for me when Brian called from Australia with the invitation, I did make the assumption that people knew I was coming.  I'm very pleased that he said I was nurturing and that you got the same feeling.  

Not just people... KNEW?... Marilyn knew... she not only knew... SHE APPROVED  the INVITATION and PAID FOR IT!  Marilyn always wanted Brian to be HAPPY... she just wanted to be happy herself... while Brian was in BED for 10 YEARS!

Debbie KL, I just got off the phone with Stephen.  He asks that you write to him at PO Box 761, Hanalei, HI 96714 with your mailing and e-mail addresses.  He wants to send you copies of the exoneration and expungement papers (those are two of his favorite words in the English language now).  I get the idea that he wants you to be his spokesperson.  He is reluctant to make posts directly because he is put off by the mudslinging and mean-spirited sniping I have had to deal with on Smiley Smile.  He likes what RAB 2591 has to say but doesn't know him/her.  He remembers you as being "sweetness personified" and sends you his aloha.  After his 9-year stint with the Beach Boys came to an end, he relocated to Hawaii and got into surfing in a big way.  He actually does what the Boys sing about, as Al Jardine once enviously pointed out to him.

Given that was an American Spring recording, l'd doubt they were very fussed.

He wasn't asking you doe doe... Get back to your toilet!  Just
Brian singing on it... made it GREAT for me!                                    

The version collectors have had since, oh, the mid 80s, has Brian only on the tag - the rest of the vocals are Marilyn, Diane and yourself. Recorded at Brother, summer 1977. A Tuesday, as I recall.

Here you are again "doe doe"... NO ONE ASKING YOU ANYTHING!  And yet you feel the need to "INFORM US that Brian "ONLY" sand on the tag... and the rest of the vocals are... WHAT?...  (just) Marilyn, Diane and myself... are you disparaging Marilyn's singing?  Marilyn had a beautiful voice...Brian loved it!  Diane... not so much... she didn't really sing as much as she whispered... so you couldn't tell she couldn't sing!  But this... answering peoples questions... to me is beneath even YOU... and so transparent!  BRIAN ONLY SANG ON THE TAG?...  Brian SANG ON THE ENTIRE LAST CHORUS with Marilyn and Myself... and whispering Diane!

Given that was an American Spring recording, l'd doubt they were very fussed.

He wasn't asking you doe doe... "GET BACK" IN YOUR TOILET!  "GET BACK DOE DOE"... wasn't that the lyric to the Beatles song?  Oh... that was "Get Back... jo jo... refering to Yoko!  Yoko... jo jo... doe doe... there all the same... NO ONE WANTED THEM AROUND!  ha ha  
Brian singing on it... made it GREAT for me!                                    

"doe doe"... just because someone compliments my singing...doesn't mean you have the right to jump in and...do what you do.. which is to sh*t all over everything..."doe doe"!