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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Anyone else configured their own Life Suite ... on: July 19, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
I'd beef it up with Midnight's Another Day and maybe another TLOS rack at the expense of a couple of NPP tracks
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Jo Ann Marks on: July 10, 2016, 02:33:30 AM
RIP
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: funniest beach boys song on: July 10, 2016, 02:32:49 AM
Battle Hymn of the Republic.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The keyboard sounds on '93 boxed set tour / Carl's taste in music on: July 04, 2016, 09:04:26 AM
There's a huge drop-off in the quality of his songwriting. You can't seriously compare Full Sail and Goin' South with Feel Flows and Long Promised Road. Angel Come Home, I really like, however.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The Right to Keep and Bear Arms: The Gun Thread on: July 04, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Well, we all have those, don't we?
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: The Right to Keep and Bear Arms: The Gun Thread on: July 04, 2016, 05:44:35 AM
Who was the brave? Squanto?
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds Forum on: June 29, 2016, 11:12:24 AM
OSD and I have nothing to do with the PSF's creation.

I thought you were paying the bills!

8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Are We Skewing The Meaning of (Beach Boys) Songs? on: June 27, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
I don't know what the sexual mores were like in Hawthorne in the earky 1960s, but Marilyn's parents seemed okay with it and I wonder of that five year age difference was that uncommon at the time. Obviously, things have moved on in most respects. I, too, regard Brian and whoever as writing in character when it comes to those mid-70s songs (and maybe for cathartic, therapeutical reasons) - not unlike Springsteen's endless litany of girls whose names end in y - okay, their ages aren't given, but you kinda figure out he's singing about a more youthful version of himself.  When asked about some inflammatory statement in a song by Eminem, Randy Newman pointed out that he was writing in role just like he often does - and noted, after all, that he didn't really hate short people.


Admittedly, I don't think it pays to look too closely to the way the stars and music of the period treated girls, whether that's 33 year-old Ringo singing, "You're Sixteen," 29 year-old Jackson Browne lamenting the loss of a sixteen year-old to the drummer in "Rosie" or  the reality of Jimmy Page with his 14 year-old groupie (or David Bowie who - according to internet scuttlebutt, 'knew' her a year earlier. I remember reading years ago an interview with Noddy Holder of Slade in which he - allegedly -  talked about groupies and noted that they asked their age, but once they said they were 16 or older, the band didn't ask any more questions.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds Forum on: June 20, 2016, 01:16:58 AM
But don't you see, you're the one who keeps bringing this up? The only one, in fact. Nobody else seems worried. For whose benefit is all this?
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds Forum on: June 19, 2016, 11:25:04 PM
As for the fees. what answer would you like to hear?
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds Forum on: June 19, 2016, 12:31:38 PM
Cough it up, Doc - Who is paying the bills?
Did you not read what I wrote above? Swedishfrog and myself are footing the bill. How much do you think it costs? Oh, I'm betting that you think someone famous is footing the bill, huh? Maybe I should ask, no? Maybe having a patron would be a cool thing. You know, like Michel Angelo or Leonardo da Vinci. Wink

Did I just read that?
12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Oops on: June 13, 2016, 01:09:34 PM
I dunno. I've gone back through the last four pages - which is all I can tolerate - and I don't see new posters or those posting under an alias that's the problem
13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Oops on: June 13, 2016, 11:18:50 AM
 Roll Eyes
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 13, 2016, 11:06:24 AM
Having successfully guided the band into a place in the early 70's "progressive rock" scene, or whatever you want to call it, could Rieley -- if he had remained -- likewise transition the Beach Boys into the late 70's, early 80's New Wave era?

I think it highly unlikely. Which "dinosaur" acts did make that transition? Paul Simon? Fleetwood Mac, to a minor extent?

Hod on. Disco's first and that didn't work out for the boys.
15  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Oops on: June 11, 2016, 01:11:26 AM
This was John k's Welcome thread.
john is easygoing; he wouldn't mind it being moved. & what you meant by that dot post?

Deleted.  Cool
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Thread for arguments with or about moderation on: June 10, 2016, 12:33:32 PM
The "other forum" apparently has already put a time limit of 1440 minutes on modifying posts . Apparently they are getting ready for the day when the little baby sulkers once again decide they're going to create a new haven for the malignant and maligned. That's probably a good plan.

Y'know, I don't recall anyone over there trashing your good name.

C'mon. By deleting that content, they are deliberately sabotaging this board.

So the only people who are the little baby sulkers and the malignant and the maligned are the people removing stuff they posted. So that's how many? Steve Mayo? I mean, it is his stuff, isn't it?
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Q & A with Marilyn Wilson and Ginger Blake of the Honeys by Ken Sharp on: June 10, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
Deleted.  Shocked
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 10, 2016, 11:12:42 AM
"So you are of the opinion that the only possible songs that Jack could have contributed to the band, or that Jack could help influence the direction of the band in, had he stayed in the band past Holland, would be dirge-like war protest songs? "

I'd rather have that than much of the stuff that followed. As fan I can make excuses and see the good in fairly average songs - even going as far as justifying some of those fun in the sun numbers like It's Okay and Woncha Come Out Tonight - but no album - apart from the quirkiness of Love You - can come close to Holland. Look at the potential of LA from the tracks lying around or at least begun around that time, but no, let's pollute the good stuff with considerably lesser stuff (though at least we didn't get Calendar Girl). Love You aside, in terms of albums with genuinely decent new music since Holland, we've had half of LA and half of TWGMTR (plus all of POB and BW88) - that's obviously not to dismiss the genuine worth some great 'new' tracks on weaker albums like Had to Phone Ya and My Diane. I don't think Carl ever wrote as good a song as those he wrote with Jack. That, in itself, is telling.

However, I do think the loss of Murry is surely a huge factor in the kind of implosion that went on.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Thread for arguments with or about moderation on: June 10, 2016, 07:23:15 AM
The "other forum" apparently has already put a time limit of 1440 minutes on modifying posts . Apparently they are getting ready for the day when the little baby skulkers once again decide they're going to create a new haven for the malignant and maligned. That's probably a good plan.

Y'know, I don't recall anyone over there trashing your good name.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / 21st Century Beach Boys Albums / Re: That's Why God Made The Radio on: June 09, 2016, 02:43:20 AM
 It's not exactly a great album.
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Oops on: June 08, 2016, 11:39:02 PM
Deleted.  Grin
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 08, 2016, 11:30:09 AM
I think what we *did* get out of the Rieley era, coupled with the *43 YEARS* or so since it all happened, in addition to Rieley's death, means some folks find it easier to find the good in what came out of the Rieley era and not dwell too much on what *could* have happened.

43 years... And studio-wise most of it in a downhill direction
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 07, 2016, 11:42:49 AM
True. Remember Bobby Brown Goes Down? Hardly the product of a fiercely Conservative (with a capital C) creative mind.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 07, 2016, 09:23:03 AM
I seem to remember a quote or interview from Bruce were he said he had issues with Jack's truthiness, let's say.  I seem to remember him giving Jack's resume as an example and saying something like the he checked and the Peabody Award people (or whoever) never heard of the guy or something.  Anybody else remember something like that?

Yep, the Politzer Prize incident and other past (alleged) employment experiences  - Also I believe (don't know where I read it, sorry if i'm off the mark) Bruce questioned Jack's sexuality

I have not heard that one Rob, do you (or anyone) remember the source by any chance.  Not that the opinion would be shocking for back in that day.

True, though Bruce worked with Curt Becher too.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Bruce and Jack disagree over? on: June 07, 2016, 05:20:55 AM

Mike opined to Val Mabbs of Record Mirror that Bruce “left because he wasn’t too happy about things.  It was decided that because of a couple of feelings harbored by different members of the group and the way things went with Bruce developing a solo career it made it more or less an uncompromising situation.”

It's interesting how Bruce "going solo" might have been a contributing factor to him leaving and/or feuding with Jack. Not that the going solo thing being a cause of tension would be a unique case to this band, but there may be possible parallels to the strife Denny encountered from within the band (not sure if it was coming from more than just Mike) when Denny himself wanted to do a solo tour.

I wonder if it was discussed if Bruce would potentially have a solo career in tandem to being in the band at the same time. I can also see how the political mindset of a guy writing Disney Girls (which I love, by the way) could be at complete odds with someone pushing the band in a vastly more left-leaning political direction.

Do you think Bruce has always been a country-club "Obama is an asshole" bring back the 50's kind of guy? Seems so strange that he could be enveloped by the culture going on around him and not alter those opinions at all  Shocked

There's a quote from Bruce - in the Granata book, I think - in which he pines for the days of turning up to the recording studio in a nice sweater...

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