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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / BRIAN WILSON Q & A / Foster's Freeze and The Wich Stand on: January 25, 2015, 09:46:31 AM
What was the significance of Foster's Freeze and The Wich Stand to the young Brian Wilson's social life?
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Beer, Wine, Liquor, Spirits, Cocktails...Open Bar. Discuss, Recommend, etc. on: January 25, 2015, 06:02:13 AM
Whisky for Burns' Night?

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/poem-and-whisky-for-burns-night-tam.html
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Lorren Daro Thread on: January 24, 2015, 03:01:42 AM
Thanks for your recollections about Al. What was Bruce like, Lorren?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: Lorren Daro thread on: January 23, 2015, 05:14:32 AM
Say, Lorren, please tell us about Mike and why you dislike him so. Just curious.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Carl Conversation 1974 on: January 23, 2015, 12:27:05 AM
I'm going back to the question I asked earlier which, so far, has been ignoredor at least side-stepped...INSIDERS...Help out here please...the question again was...

"And do sound crew guys get to invite people to come hang out WITH THE BAND after a gig?"


...'cause if they couldn't and didn't...then THIS didn't happen.

I don't know if any of us here would know what the arrangements were back then with this type of thing.  I could see the crew getting a pass or two each to hand out to friends.  But this story sounds as if it were a little bit embellished for effect.  This paragraph:

"I didn’t understand what was going on in their lives at that point in their history. Frankly, I was one of those people who saw them as The Beach Boys, not as Carl, Dennis, Al, Brian, Mike, but as a phenomenon and as the group that expressed what I felt in music. If any one of them felt used, rejected frightened, I don’t think I ever gave that a thought. Later I would find out, through documentaries, that Brian had had a breakdown and was literally in bed, clinically depressed perhaps. That they had a falling out with their father who had been their producer early on. And that Dennis was keeping company with Charles Manson and family."

Makes no sense.  Yeah, Brian had had his problems, but those were well known to the public by 1974.  Yeah, they had had a falling out with their father...in 1965.  Poor Murry was gone by 1974.  And Dennis had kept company with Charlie, but that was back in 1968.  



LostArt, in fairness, there wasn't that much information readily available about the Beach Boys in 1974.  I became a fan in 1976 at age 19, and I could only find one thin (but valuable) volume about them (Ken Barnes', which came out in 1976), and whatever magazine articles that came out around the Brian's Back campaign.   Before Barnes' book there was even less information available, and one couldn't go online and get, for example, the 1971 Rolling Stone article.  (Even if you knew it existed, where would you get it?  At least in Houston, university libraries didn't carry back issues of Rolling Stone).  

Edit: my apologies if you were around back then, and know this very well.  My point is just that what we now take for granted as BB history was not known by everybody.

It wouldn't surprise me that this fan was only casually familiar with the history of the band, and happened to catch Carl on a bad day, even if his account may not be 100% accurate.

As an aside, the Mr. T story raises my esteem for Carl even more!

Ok, not everyone who went to a Beach Boys' concert in 74 knew that the band had three brothers, a cousin and a friend. But you know, if you knew who Brian Wilson was (the leader, composer, arranger etc) you'd certainly know that he didn't tour.

I think this dude happened to go to a get tigether with the band but each time he told the story in the last 4 decades it got more... perfect and rounded. It happens.

And his story as is, makes for a much better reason for him to "turn to jesus" than the probable actual happenings

With that beard and open neck shirt, maybe he thought Carl was Jesus. Everyone son of God has his off day.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: Darro thread pulled ? on: January 20, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
Oh, come on. The guy, Daro or not,  wasn't here to share insights or provide information. He was here to inflame. The post title was about answering criticism of his "essay" that was written two years ago and that no one had been discussing, much less criticizing,  since it came out in the first place. He cut and pasted the same comments here and in a dead thread about it over at the Hoffman board.  He claimed he was here to defend himself, "taking on all comers" but all he did was spew invective and get everyone riled up.  Then he disappeared from both boards, with no real information given.

The Hoffman board realized this wasn't beneficial and took the thread down yesterday. Our mods did the same today. Probably had zero to do with Brian popping in and everything to do with the trolling nature of the whole thing. No loss, I say.



I thought it was taken down because there was no mention of the Beatles...   Evil
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hi from Brian on: January 19, 2015, 11:32:21 PM
Wow! What an honour!
8  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Tim Drummond and Dallas Taylor RIP on: January 19, 2015, 11:25:53 PM
http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/tim-drummond-and-dallas-taylor-rip.html
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: John Stebbins FAQ Book: Rather harsh on Brian's Solo Tours and Handlers? on: January 17, 2015, 08:56:35 AM
Seems like a good point maybe to head for a beer… anyone coming? It's only 9am here in God's County but we can sit outside Booths supermarket with a bottle in a paper bag and chew the breeze. Last night I had a bottle of a novelty beer called Arse Liquor, actually an IPA which tasted suprisingly fresh and fine.

Anyone?

John, it's 8:20 AM here on the East Coast across the pond, and I am reminded of a scene from the TV show "Cheers" where Norm comes in, and takes his seat at the bar.  "Coach, gimme a beer," he says.  Coach, the bartender replies, "But Norm, it's only 8AM..."  Norm pauses for a second, and says, "Then put some cornflakes in it."   Cheesy

Lee

I prefer rice crispies with mine. Snap, crackle and burp!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Mike Playing the Wrong Kind of Saxophone? on: January 17, 2015, 02:34:54 AM
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin LOL
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: John Stebbins FAQ Book: Rather harsh on Brian's Solo Tours and Handlers? on: January 17, 2015, 02:24:24 AM
Seems like a good point maybe to head for a beer… anyone coming? It's only 9am here in God's County but we can sit outside Booths supermarket with a bottle in a paper bag and chew the breeze. Last night I had a bottle of a novelty beer called Arse Liquor, actually an IPA which tasted suprisingly fresh and fine.

Anyone?

When in doubt, turn to drink. My libation will have to wait until this evening. Purely medicinal purposes, To lubricate a sore throat. Honest.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Dennis in the Wrong Group? on: January 16, 2015, 11:10:19 AM
I wonder how the Beach Boys ever made it big with so many untalented members who couldn't rock.

You are my new God and I appreciate your existence.

Look at clips like the TAMI show and tell me who was getting the crowd wild.  Listen to some interviews and tell me who got the most responses from the crowd.
Absolutely! Shame that Dennis couldn't be coaxed or eased in with being more out front. I'm sure that people would have rather seen him than the lovester who looked more like their dad. LOL

Look, maybe some of us want to have sex with both Dennis AND Mike.

At the same time?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: holland/end if an era,, on: January 16, 2015, 11:08:40 AM
There's kind of an irony that there songs around the time of LA that had an element of that Holland vibe that weren't used - and two were by Al.

Which were they?

Santa Ana Winds and Looking Down the Coast
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Kim Fowley on: January 16, 2015, 09:51:23 AM
RIP

Obit with songs:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/kim-fowley-rip.html
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Kim Fowley on: January 16, 2015, 09:14:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV3ttufv9IA
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If you could only keep one album from the 1968-1973 period? on: January 15, 2015, 09:28:52 AM
Only one...?

Then it has to be Surf's Up, but my custom version including Big Sur, 4th of July, WIBNTLA and Lady (and keeping all the other tracks). Killer bee.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Weirdest Photos Of Mike Love You Can Find on: January 15, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Dang, this proves how cool Mike is. Seriously. The real bombshell would be to find out he posted in this thread.

Je suis Mike Love.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Backing Vocals and Drums on American Spring album on: January 14, 2015, 03:58:13 AM
The high bv on Sunflower Forever is big boy Bri.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: holland/end if an era,, on: January 13, 2015, 09:26:19 AM
There's kind of an irony that there songs around the time of LA that had an element of that Holland vibe that weren't used - and two were by Al.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Mini Mansions song \ on: January 13, 2015, 09:23:52 AM
Love it. One of his bvs - along with Adios, MacArthur Park and Delirious Love
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Brian Clemens (the Avengers) RIP on: January 13, 2015, 09:17:32 AM
Steed and Mrs Peel not Thor and Iron Man

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/brian-clemens-rip.html
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Dennis in the Wrong Group? on: January 12, 2015, 10:58:29 PM
No.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What would you include on a Best of the Seventies compilation? on: January 12, 2015, 01:48:55 PM
Damn, SJS, Back Home. I like that one! All three versions!
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: holland/end if an era,, on: January 12, 2015, 10:38:51 AM
Murry's death.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What would you include on a Best of the Seventies compilation? on: January 12, 2015, 10:37:49 AM
01.   Slip On Through
02.   This Whole World
03.   Forever
04.   Fallin’ In Love (Dennis)
05.   All I Wanna Do
06.   Feel Flows
07.   Long Promised Road
08.   Lookin’ At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)
09.   Disney Girls
10.   Big Sur
11.   Surf’s Up
12.   ‘Til I Die
13.   (Wouldn’t It Be Nice To) Live Again
14.   Cuddle Up
15.  You Need a Mess of Help...
16.   Marcella
17.   TM (the Charles Lloyd track)
18.   All This Is That
19.   The Trader
20.   Sail On Sailor
21.   Funky Pretty
22.   We Got Love
23.   California Saga - California
24.   Sweet Mountain (Spring with Brian)
25.   Wishing You Were Here (with Chicago with Carl, Dennis and Al)
26.   Had To Phone Ya
27.   Just Once In My Life
28.   Johnny Carson
29    Let Us Go On This Way
30.   Airplane
31.   The Night Was So Young
32.   I'll Bet He's Nice
33.   Lines
34.   Winter Symphony
35.   Pitter Patter
36.   My Diane.   
37.   River Song
38.   Pacific Ocean Blues
39.   Moonshine
40.   Love Remember Me
41.   Good Timin'
42.   Baby Blue
43.   Love Surrounds Me
44.   California Feelin’
45.   Country Pie (Mike with Celebration)
46.   Angel Come Home
47.   Tug of Love
48 - and one from 80 - Santa Ana Winds




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