Great. Another BB album where reviewers will harp on about 'autotune' though they know nothing about it except what they've read on here. Expect a bad review a la Petridis in the Guardian in the UK, just like his review of TWGMTR - based on what he read here, including comments from one totally uninformed asshole who, for a few weeks, couldn't post without mentioning the word, "autotune." Hasn't posted on this thread yet, but it can't be long. I remember seeing Genesis live in the late 70s. Used tapes and all sorts of sh*t. Nobody cared less.

"Van Dyke was well known in the business. His success is his own, and Smile didn't even become a thing until the 70s and, really, the 80s."

VDP, in the Uncut piece, rather contradicts this view himself.

Lots of us appreciate it, Andrew.

I'm not. At least not for 30-dd years.

The worrying thing is that some people are now getting their jollies from snitching on others...

"So from his point of view, what his association with the Beach Boys has brought him is a relatively small amount of money (because we know the Sea Of Tunes contracts weren't exactly generous to non-family, and he didn't write any major hits with Brian), a certain amount of interpersonal stress, and a bunch of people on message boards who call him a prick because he dares to say that Brian Wilson may sometimes have behaved badly, or because he expresses himself using actual words rather than grunting noises like 'normal' people."

Smile is referenced in most pieces about VDP.  LIke it or not - and he may not - it's what a lot of people know him for. Is his best work on there. Dunno. I like his stuff with Newman, but I like Newman's later stuff more. There are times when I read VDP's comments and he comes across as a bit of an ass, putting himself in the best light possible. Whether or not I would like to have been him when Brian was messing around instead of getting on with the work, is a different matter. VDP has worked with a lot of people and has been fairly productive himself, but to a lot of people - and not just BB fans - he's known for his collaboration with Brian

Didn't someone say he's a "butthole"?

He's continued to do all right out of the association, however...

I dislike the sound, the singing, the over-instrumentation, the production and most of the songs - but Don't Let Her Know She's an Angel is good - he just needs to record a decent version of it.

An Al Jardine Story

1. Sloop John B
2. At My Window
3. Cottonfields
4. Take a Load Off Your Feet
5. Lookin' At Tomorrow
6. Don't Go Near the Water
7. He Come Down
8. All This Is That
9. California
10. Come Go With Me
11. Kona Coast
12. Lady Lynda
13. Santa Ana Winds
14. School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)
15. California Calling
16. Crack at Your Love
17. Waves of Love
18. Don't Fight The Sea
19. A Postcard From California
20. Sloop John B (A Pirate's Tale)

Strange mix.  I would dump School Day, Crack at Your Love, the second Sloop, California Calling, Kona Coast, Come Go With Me. I would add the acoustic California, Looking Down the Coast, Susie Cincinnati, his version of California Feelin', Tidepool Interlude and Help Me Rhonda

WTF WWDWD?

It would've been awful and the same people who hate BWPS would've found something irksome about that too. No-one's SMiLE is as good as the one in their head. Probably not even Brian's.

If SMiLE had been released in the 60s, it would've been done and there would've been none of this 'hate, hate, hate' stuff. Except there would've. Look at the way people still bitch about the inclusion of Sloop John B oPet Sounds despite the fact that, lo and behold, it was meant to be on there.

Dennis helped Al arrange the vocals for Lady Lynda, didn't he?

"Stebbins had some interesting comments on Dennis and Al's relationship, but if I could venture to guess, it would be just like two guys who work together who have basically nothing in common.  If you think about it, that doesn't generate hostility (a lot of the Dennis vs. Mike dynamic was driven by similarities between the two men, not just the difference) so much as indifference.  I'd guess that Al respected Dennis' musical talent but didn't really understand him very well personally and probably found his unpredictability unsettling.  I would also guess that Dennis liked Al well enough but probably thought he was boring and square ("man waiting for a bus.").  I can't see the guys hanging out and having all that much to talk about.  I could be wrong.  I could definitely imagine Al as a target for some of Dennis' notorious practical jokes."

Hasn't Al said something along these lines - that he didn't realise how good Dennis' work was at the time?

Here's a nice piece on the unfairly maligned Dylan album that also looks forward to the next Dylan Bootleg - Volume 10.

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/bob-dylan-dylan-and-bootleg-series-vol.html

And it's not the best song on the album.

Pacific Ocean Blues is the best song on that album hands down. And considering that musically, it's just the blues progression, Mike singlehandedly wrote that song.

So Mike singlehandedly wrote the best song on POB?  Thanks be to the Lovester for the best solo album in BB history. You really talk some horseshit at times.

1.  River Song
2.  Thoughts of You
3.  Moonshine
4.  Pacific Ocean Blues
5.  Farewell My Friend
6.  End of the Show
7.  Time
8.  You and I
9.  What's Wrong
10. Rainbows
11. Dreamer
12. Friday Night

A spectacularly great album

Did we ever do TWGMTR?

Blondie sings lead.

Anyhow, I agree - one of Dennis' best songs and it would've been on of the BB's best 70s songs. I'd love to hear a cleaned up version  on the box. There has to be some reason for me to buy it. Normally, I'm pretty loyal, but it's got to the point where sme of the recent comps, with some different mixes or maybe one 'new' song have been pretty much ripping off loyal fans. I want this box to be special.

I can't really see Cusack as older Brian. They look nothing alike in coloring or size. Though I can't see Paul Dano, either, it's at least a little bit less of a disparity. Will Ferrell would have made a better old Brian.

They should cast Robert de Niro with another outrageous wig...

Or Al Pacino even...

"It makes me cringe when I see these "Histories of Rock and Roll" texts ( that I have to pay for) or those generic types in bookstores, such as those coffee-table versions, which either marginalize the Boys contributions, and/or ignore the very large influence on music, in general, and popular culture, with contributions to music history, in particular."

That, I agree with. 

Thank God for Al.

Who cares?

Do you appreciate it?  If not, move on.

Shouldn't have had Parts 1 ad 2!

"If 10,000 Years could be finished as well (if no complete version exists) then that would be cool too."

Mike finished A version of this song for his unreleased album of about ten years back.

Maybe it was Garth Hudson.