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1  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Wes Craven RIP on: August 31, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/wes-craven-rip.html
2  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Manuscript of Bob Dylan's A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall for sale on: August 31, 2015, 10:49:15 AM
More Bob stuff:  http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/issue-52-of-bob-dylan-magazine-bridge.html
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's backing vocals on: August 31, 2015, 03:05:56 AM
I like a lot of his, shall we say, late period bvs, but those for Adios are my favourite
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Any info about a J-pop Guess I'm Dumb cover circa 1996? on: August 30, 2015, 10:06:50 AM
Neat version.

Louis Phillipe? The guy who covered Paddy McAloon's Nightingales?
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Manuscript of Bob Dylan's A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall for sale on: August 30, 2015, 10:05:18 AM
Or an early draft, anyway:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/bob-dylans-hard-rains-gonna-fall.html
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Happy 70th Birthday, Ron Mael on: August 30, 2015, 09:59:47 AM
Currently touring with Franz Ferdinand.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer in Paradise Recalled on: August 29, 2015, 03:17:31 AM
Please.... You used to jerk off with your dad? Eeew.... Too much information.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer in Paradise Recalled on: August 28, 2015, 01:58:20 AM
There are always some gems on even the worst BB albums - yes, on SIP too. Strange Things Happen, certainly; also quite like Still Surfin' and some of the singing, especially Jardine, is very good. On GIOMH there are some great songs, it's just that the arrangements and recordings render them somewhat difficult to enjoy - never mind the ghastly context of the shite they're next to. Even the Lovester's album has its moments - though the most annoying thing about that is that we all know he had a far better album under wraps... (and a far worse one too, mind you (though Beth on the Mesa's not that baaaaaaaaad....) and some of his faux country singing is no worse than Jagger's faux hick accent.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer in Paradise Recalled on: August 27, 2015, 10:48:11 AM
in a way albums you love and hate are tied much closer to the ones you have complete apathy for..which BB album is the one you listen to/think of the least??

The albums that annoy me in a way no other BB albums do are KTSA and MIU. I mean, things were disintegrating but guys were all around (kind of)! And LA, because there were tracks around that would've improved it, though with our luck we'd have been presented with more stuff in the manner of Shortenin' Bread or Sumahama. My bottom five would be (in no particular order): Looking Back with Love, SIP, Still Cruisin, Stars and Stripes and...  GIOMH or Youngblood (or Going Public).
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer in Paradise Recalled on: August 27, 2015, 02:06:59 AM
But wonderful ORIGINAL album cover art!

everyone keeps saying this. personally i think its really tacky

Technically good, but tacky, as opposed to KTSA, which is technically tacky and embarrassing.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Summer in Paradise Recalled on: August 27, 2015, 02:03:53 AM
August, 1992. I find the new Beach Boys album in the bins in Stuart Florida. Cool. But Hurricane Andrew is coming ashore and I run the CD over and over while wind and rain beat 'gainst the house thru the night. Pleased as it sinks in with repetition. Well alright, sounds like my old friends are back. The record becomes the soundtrack to our summers in FLA.

Another August, 23 years later, stuck in Nanjing days before school begins, I crank it up and reflect.

Yeah, I don't really like the sequencing. Should open with the fade up to Island Fever and its invitation to "get away."

Then into the ballsy remake of Surfin' - some energy here, sadly lacking in so much the Boys had produced since Holland

Summer of Love is a hoot, tongue firmly in cheek - ridiculous Superbad dudes looking to get laid - funny, and those background vocals - yes!

I never felt the Hot Fun cover adds anything to Sly's original, in fact kinda shied away from the cut, but works better here then as album opener and I think I'm warming to it.

Under the Boardwalk - nice work - love it love it.

Slow Dancing - extends the romanticism of Boardwalk - I can still see the night, the stars, Japanese lanterns on the pier at Cocoa Beach.

Strange Things Happen - a standout track (Funky Pretty's Pisces Lady take's it all a step higher - the Rio conference was supposed to address environmental issues, it didn't, but the cosmically conscious among us understand the unity of being). I love the ride out. A totally psychedelic track.

Still Surfin' quoting Don't Worry Baby comes across as an elegy. Surfer Joe, of course, was the flip side to the Safari's Wipeout (or was it the Chantay's pipeline?). A garage rock classic in which the protagonist ends up in the Marines. Now we meet the Viet Vet back on his board, eco-conscious. But who is the "pretty little seniorita" referenced in the lyric?

Walking in the Sand - who did this originally? Not the Ronettes, they were Walking in the Rain. Check out the "Little Girl I Once Knew" in the lyric. Actually, the album is littered with musical and lyrical references. Another energetic remake.

Lahaina Aloha - Another standout track - Carl's finest moment in this collection.

Kokomo - Well, of course this set is the natural home for this key latter BB track, recapping and fulfilling the invite of Island Fever.

Summer In Paradise - This one sure sounded like the Beach Boy's "Let It Be" back in 1992 and still does. A bittersweet ending to the set of tunes presented here, its message of aging, loss and regret all the more resonant today. "Bring us back our Summer in Paradise."

Oh, was there a remake of Forever on this record?   FAGEDDABOUDIT! Not in my mix.

Anyway, a dam good collection of tunes, despite the general dismissal and scorn it receives. The best, in fact, Beach Boys album between Holland and That's Why God Made the Radio.



Ah,you had me going for a minute.

Nice one. LOL
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson on 'Kokomo' on: August 26, 2015, 01:17:08 AM
Cocktail has yet to reach Stainforth. We don't have a movie theatre though a mobile cinema occasionally comes to the village hall in the neighbouring village. As such, I hadn't known Tom Cruise was an actor… I'd understood him to be a religious leader who briefly had a raised public profile because he was once married to a famous actress.





Sorry… my take: film drove the single, but song outlived the movie.

Lucky bugger.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson on 'Kokomo' on: August 25, 2015, 08:26:35 AM
Sings Little Deuce Coupe in War of the Worlds too. He's still a sh*t actor though. If you like Vanilla Sky, the original's better. He ruins Rain Man and The Colour of Money. I'll give him Magnolia, because he's not in it that much. Born on the Fourth of July? Mmm. Better, I suppose.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson on 'Kokomo' on: August 24, 2015, 06:18:45 AM
I'm personally not a huge fan of Kokomo but South American and On The Island seem like Brian nods to Kokomo to me.

South American? Now that is awful.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone's 100 Greatest Songwriters - Brian at #12 on: August 24, 2015, 12:48:18 AM
I've never been able to understand lists like this.... I guess ultimately you just have to conclude that they're completely useless.  It's the only way I can make any logical sense of it.


Just a couple throwaway thoughts about it.... I basically agree with a lot of the top 10, but like a poster above said, I've had many other songwriters move me much more than several of the top ten, so what is this even based on?  I love Carol King but in my world she's not even in the same league as Merle Haggard, and I'm not sure she even sold more records than Merle. 

Or guys like Woodie Guthrie, hell he started the foundation of what guys like Dylan did, yet Dylan's #1 (maybe deservedly so) but Guthrie's #28?  How?

Also we're giving props to Tom T. Hall but completely ignore the completely superior Roger Miller?  Tom T. Hall still wishes he was as talented as Roger Miller.  Where's Marty Robbins?  Where's Bill Monroe?  We give Johnny Cash #43, and yeah he was of course great, but there's 100 songwriters in Nashville who wrote better songs than Johnny ever dreamed of, and he'd be the first to tell you that if he was still alive.  Hell you could make a bigger case for Ira Louvin being on the list than Johnny Cash!  Waylon Jennings was 5X the songwriter Johnny Cash was, you could argue that Waylon was more talented and did more than even Kristoferson... but he's not one of L.A.'s favorites so we leave Waylon off. 

Whole list is pointless. 
Well, I can't think of many songs better than I Walk the Line, I Still Miss Someone, or Man in Black. That's the freakin' Bible in my music book.

Great songs... and he had others.... but if you listen through Waylon's catalog he was far superior.  Probably 100 songwriters in Nashville better than Johnny, he was more cool than all of them though so of course he gets on the list.

And, of course, Johnny was reinvented late in life (and at least a couple of those albums are seriously good) in a manner that appealed to the 'cool' crowd.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson on 'Kokomo' on: August 24, 2015, 12:44:00 AM
Like a lot of late period BB stuff, it sounds like what somebody else thought a BB song should sound like. I also suspect that if Mike didn't bang on about it like it was Good Vibes, there'd be a lot less opposition to it. It would just be another late period BB track but one that happened to be a hit.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love & Donald Trump on: August 23, 2015, 10:21:11 AM
Lest it should be forgotten, The Beach Boys played for the Donald's 50th Birthday Party bash, June 1st 1996; the invitation:

       

It needs to be forgotten...
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What is Wrong with Beach Boys Fans? on: August 23, 2015, 03:33:02 AM
I think it happens amongst 'fans' of other bands/artists. We think we have some deep connection with them; we think we know what they would do and how they would react; we're selective when it comes to evidence - even evidence staring you in face; we dismiss the comments of people who 'were there' (Daro, anybody?) because they don't fit our narrative, whatever that might be; but we are also at the mercy of people who were involved who revise their views or who have played up their own personal disagreements/differences with some of the principals. And then some of us just like to be contrary and get that buzz from seeing our names all over message boards ranting about the same fucking thing, say after day, thread after thread. Some of us even start thread to do this, knowing damn fine it'll enrage Mr Knacker and keep the wound open. As I said elsewhere, Mike wrote The Warmth of the Sun (and many other songs - yeah, Mike and a line here and a line there...); he sang on some of the BB's best music, as did Bruce. FFS, Bruce sang on God Only Knows. It doesn't get better than that. Yes, Mike's been a twat at times and the 80s was a pretty embarrassing time for the band, but you know what, these guys ain't going to be around for much longer, so celebrate the good stuff he did (there's plenty of it) and do what I do - ignore the dross and the BS and the hopeless revisionism AND if you get the chance to see them, go, because it's worth it.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't F**k With the Formula on: August 21, 2015, 02:40:28 AM
Can't we get Daro to chip in? Last time he was here, VDP was endorsing his views.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Still Crusin Track Order on: August 20, 2015, 12:30:49 PM
1.   "Still Cruisin'"
2.   "Somewhere Near Japan"     
3.   "Island Girl"     
4.   "In My Car"     
5.   "Kokomo"
6.   "Wipe Out"     
7.   "Make It Big"
8.    "east meets west"
9.    "Lady Liberty"
10. "Don't worry baby" with the everly brothers
11.   "Happy Birthday America"
12. "Happy Endings"

Chasin' the Sky instead of Lady Liberty; California Dreaming instead of East Meets West; Rock'n'Roll to the Rescue instead of Happy Birthday America. It's still largely a sh*t album though, whatever you do to it. Oh, and Crocodile Rock instead of Wipe Out.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't F**k With the Formula on: August 19, 2015, 05:35:25 AM
And it's hardly formulaic. It's a beautiful piece of nostalgia and when they tried it again (It's Okay, KTSA, for example), it sounded like another band who had the wrong idea of what the Boys were about.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Last two Beach Boys/Brian Wilson albums on: August 19, 2015, 03:13:13 AM
I'm game for this sort of crap, but I'll have to think about it and may change my mind... but I'll go for the 14 tracks...

Half Moon Bay
This Beautiful Day
I'm Feeling Sad
Whatever Happened
On the Island
Sail Away
Don't Fight The Sea
Tidepool Interlude
Think About The Days
Strange World
Form There To Back Again
Pacific Coast Highway
Summer's Gone
The Last Song
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is there a Beach Boys/Barbara Eden connection? on: August 19, 2015, 02:42:33 AM
Dennis?  Grin
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What did Mike + the other Boys think of Jack Rieley's lyrics? on: August 17, 2015, 11:48:00 AM

Quote

I recall the day Brian came to me to discuss a song he was working on (with Jack) about the health and welfare of trees. We went for a walk in Brian's back yard, he was reflecting on some of the trees growing there…some young, some old….strong oaks and one that was dead from a lightning strike. We were discussing how to get the message of the song to come across in a sound picture (or tone poem) and not just a melody with a story attached. Brian would tell me sonic concepts and I'd throw ideas back at him about how to realize the picture from a sound engineering point of view. What is the sound a healthy tree makes? Or a sick and dying tree. How do you tell the story in sonic concept? It wasn’t until I suggested using a pipe organ to represent the majesty of a tree (wood pipes) and a reed organ made of oak, for other sounds that things took off.  ‘Tree didn’t just magically come into being. It was a collaboration of creativity from Brian working with Jack, the group and myself. The words of ‘Tree have gone through many stages of development. Some of the ideas are from Jack, others from the group – I even think I said a thing or two during one of those many lyric discussions. ‘Tree was a very complex song to both create and to execute, but it was the lyric that got Brian out of his bedroom and into the backyard where he returned to his creative self. (‘Tree’s creation is covered in Part Three of Recording The Beach Boys.)
~swd


Sheer fucking genius. Thanks for sharing, This sort of stuff is priceless.

25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al and Surf City Allstars doing Caribbean cruise, Jan 31-Feb 7 2016 on: August 17, 2015, 11:44:16 AM
Starting at $1100 a head. Ouch.

I'd expect more than head for $1100
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