(Two months later) Thank you! I thought I would finish the album before the end of summer. But I still have to record a couple of horns. And I’ve got a problem with a song, The vocals are a bit to high for my range, and I sound a bit like Michel Polnareff (for those who know, Lettre à France)
Anyway, i will find a way to fix it. I’m really proud of half of the songs. The other half is ok.
So October is the next goal!

Thank you for the update, I am looking forward to hearing the completed songs.

EoL

[FEEL FLOWS]

FEEL FLOWS is alive, well, and thriving.
No one will be disappointed.

Thank you for the update!

EoL

All of this talk of Feel Flows reminds me of this Feel Flows homage from a band called Maple Mars.  What if Feel Flows met Pet Sounds...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB-0mEi3IOs

EoL

HeyJude, I think it's safe to say that my respect for you and your patience/persistence has tripled over the last few pages.

+1, as they say.

EoL

start BBtoday posted the following...

All right. Here's what this comes down to.

The insiders making everyone play the guessing game comes across as, for lack of a better term, douchey. Call that trolling if you want. I don't care. I can go back to not posting in here for months at a time.

As some background, I'm a journalist. There's plenty of things I know about my subject of expertise that I can't report publicly. Do I go into forums and make people guess what I know and don't know and then not tell them what is and isn't true? No, that would be extremely bizarre and narcissistic behavior.

Say what you know. Don't say what you can't. This doesn't seem that hard."

Isn't that EXACTLY what we have been doing?? Say things we KNOW, and don't say things we CAN'T. And It is fucking hard because when we follow that code to try and inform people as best we can we get blowback from mental giants like you who can't seem to understand that this is only being done to support the project as it was created by the team that was hired to create it. No one, let me repeat NO ONE is MAKING you play a guessing game. In fact we have suggested that you don't because it's not helpful to the cause of getting the full box released in it's best form. But guessing is human nature, and when the guess is significantly wrong some of us have tried to steer things back toward a factual realm. Again a very very hard thing to do when geniuses like yourself divert the fundamentals into a distorted masturbation of obfuscation and inflated self. Howie has tried his best. Juggling an incredibly volatile and fragile situation out of pure love for the music. He shares what he can to enlighten some anxious fans. He gets called "Douchey" by YOU for doing that. Nice job man. You get the lets sh*t all over the best source we have award. Wear it proudly.

I was actually calling HeyJude douchey, "mental giant."

Keep dropping vague hints to let fans parse them out and speculate until their heads explode, though. It's clearly been very helpful as we've turned one minor issue into another one involving Dennis' songs. It seems as if we're only going the wrong way.

I would not expect fans of the subject I cover to bow at my alter. I'm a journalist. I don't consider myself the subject. I don't know why you and Howie feel differently.

I'm lost...

1. Who said the initial issue was minor?  If it was sufficient to cancel the entire set it doesn't seem like it was minor.  Maybe I missed something.
2. Who is the "we" that turned one minor issue into another one involving Dennis' songs?  And, where did you get the idea that anything "we" did resulted in the original issue turning into the most recent issue?

Regarding calling someone douchey, here is what was said:

"The insiders making everyone play the guessing game comes across as, for lack of a better term, douchey."

1. Insiders, plural.  Unless HeyJude is plural, you were calling he and at least one other douchey.
2. You specifically said that "the insiders making everyone play the guessing game comes across as...douchey."  The only other insiders that are revealing anything at all are Jon and Howie, so it seems to me you were calling one or both of them douchey, in addition to HeyJude.

EoL

Sweet vindication for me and OSD!

Why not bitter or sour vindication ?

 You would enjoy being vindicated even if it means we all miss out ?

I’m sure you would prefer we don’t miss out, but this attitude suggests otherwise.

This is such a silly response.  SB stated he is glad to be vindicated, he does not say he is glad there are problems or that he is glad we all miss out.  GIVEN that there are problems and that we all miss out he is glad that he is vindicated.  What he said is what he meant and we he meant is quite clear.

EoL

Jon, I think your post is too “wordy” for some on this board. I think you might edit down your last post because I honestly don’t think it will sink in otherwise. No offense intended.

If someone wants to know what is going on and either cannot or will not engage with John's post in order to understand what is going on, then an abbreviated post is not going to make a difference.  Everything that can be known by those of us who are not on the inside has been made known to the greatest possible degree and in the clearest possible terms without the authors of those posts jeopardizing their own standing.  If you don't already get it it is either because you don't want to or you can't.  A shorter post will not solve this problem with the will and/or the intellect.  Thank you, Jon, for affirming what HeyJude has said over and over again, at great length, in plain English.

EoL

How are the vocals coming along?  Shall I get Tony Asher on the line to help with the lyrics? 

I am a conflicted person.  Part of me wishes my favorite artists would put out more music exactly like the songs that made me fall in love with them.  The other part of me wants to see them grow and mature.  Brian’s progress from the surf/car songs up through Pet Sounds is glorious to hear.  There is a feeling captured in those early songs that culminates in Pet Sounds.  That feeling, for me, is gone in the Smile material and beyond.  I can appreciate some of tbe later material, but rarely does it capture that feeling again.

This is probably why I thoroughly enjoy artists such as The Explorer’s Club.  Jason Brewer’s music sounds as if he has unearthed hidden Brian Wilson gems, he captures that Today-Summer Days-Pet Sounds feeling almost as well as Brian did!

With that said, if you like the Pet Sounds sound, give this a listen:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,27256.0.html

Brilliant stuff by this guy who has posted on this board here and there.

EoL

Billy, thank you so much!!! This made my day, tough to get any feedback at all in this day and age, feels like you're just throwing things out into the ether, so this really means a lot!

Wow....that was amazing. Love the sound of your voice, and the overall production was excellent. Quite catchy.

I mean this from the bottom of my heart...that is my honest to God favorite song I’ve heard this year, by *anybody*. I normally use Twitter solely to promote my band, but I shared this.

A++

FWIW, I've noticed that people who comment on the songs others post tend to get more feedback when they post.  It isn't a guarantee, but it certainly seems to help.

EoL

My Pet Sounds... 


https://themajikrainorchestra.bandcamp.com/releases

I’m working on these songs... I still have to record the vocals.

Cheers

Guillaume

I love what you are doing so far!  I can't wait to hear the vocals!

EoL

That was really nice, thank you for posting.  Wish I could sing like that!

Hi guys, I'm a composer for some Netflix shows living in Los Angeles. Longtime SS member, Here's a cover I released today. Hope you dig it.

http://theblinkingeyes.bandcamp.com/track/the-night-was-so-young

Great rendition, I really like it.  I am usually partial to remakes that venture into substantial new territory, but covers of this song are few and far between and are usually not done well, and I really like it.

EoL

What the hell, I’ll play devil’s advocate: what about ‘Smart Girls’, OSD? What about the more lamented tracks on Gettin’ In Over My Head? Was Brian losing his marbles when he wrote these? Mike hasn’t gone full dementia just because he recorded something (for charity) that is hazardous to listen to. Mike just doesn’t have the awesome capability that Brian has to bring a good song into being, and even a lot of those are labored. And even some of those don’t turn out all that good, as per my examples above. There’s a limit to hating on Mike, OSD, and you’re getting there quick.

I’m gonna go wash my hands, partly because, well, we all should, and partly because I just defended Mike “Let’s shoot harmless animals for fun with the president’s brain dead son” Love. Ick.

Didn't Brian write Smart Girls during just such a time, when he was not doing well mentally?

Tell your Teach, we're gonna make it out to California Beach? OMG.....UGH!

I don’t want to find fault where there isn’t any but I’m not sure what to make of this:

I’ll tell my boss why don’t you tell your teach...?

Am I reading too much into this or is this about a working aged man and a girl in high school?

EoL

I didn't see this one mentioned...

Belle and Sebastian: I Love My Car

I love my Carl
I love my Brian my Dennis and my Al
I could even find it in my heart to love Mike Love

The BB song that most reminds me of the Four Seasons is "The Night Was So Young".

You are right!  I had never thought about that before.  With that said, even though I can hear the similarity I can't put my finger on it.  Are there any songs that come to mind?

EoL

Everyone’s got different tastes. It’s one of the happiest most rollicking songs Brian has done in his solo career, IMO (probably besides Good Kind Of Love). To me it sounds completely organic and lively...no doubt in part to the positive writing experience Musgraves had with Brian for this song.

I guess so.  I like some happy songs, and I like country music a little more with each passing year.   

For a happy sounding Brian song, I much prefer Don't Worry, which didn't make the "proper" album cut.

That’s one song I would’ve loved to have been in the studio for during recording. And also would’ve loved to have heard the genesis of this song. I didn’t like it much first time hearing it, Woodstock (Niko) once explained to me the dynamics of the song and it opened my eyes to how cool it actually is.

Speaking of "genesis," Don't Worry reminds me a lot of 1980s Phil Collins. 

It sounds like early 70s Frankie Valli/Four Seasons to me.

If only human reason wasn't skewed by a need for symmetry.

If only you were responding to someone who had stated there was an equal amount of sophistry on each side.

If only each side could see through the sophistry of their own side as well as they see through the sophistry of the other side.

EoL

Nice cover:

https://www.amazon.com/1967---Sunshine-Tomorrow/dp/B0714CTY2P?tag=ilovethatsong-20&ie=UTF8&linkCode=as2&ascsubtag=e3c3e5a928d6fe7791dd544c234b652f

Does anyone know what this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beach-Boys-Sunflower-PROMO-EMPTY-BOX-for-jewel-case-mini-lp-cd-/222501529657?hash=item33ce1fe839:g:d00AAOSwud1W~mlP

My favorite version of this song is by the great Garnett Mimms:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISDWz_bCXsQ

If you like this listen to some of his other stuff, you won't be disappointed.

EoL

...& The Enchanters. Yes indeed. This is the definitive version of "Cry Baby", with all due respect to Janis:

https://youtu.be/CMs-NcuTJSg

Good call, EoL. :=)

Agreed!  He has some really soulful, moving stuff.

EoL

https://warrenludskimusicscene.wordpress.com/interviews-3/the-flames-burn-brightly-50-years-on-thanks-to-for-your-precious-love/

From a site called "Music Legends Of Cape Town", this is a great article and interview about a Flame song (called The Flames in the article) which just topped a Valentines Day poll decades after its release, and gives a lot of great background and insight into Blondie's early days with the band in South Africa. This was shared by Blondie on Facebook - definitely worth a read.

My favorite version of this song is by the great Garnett Mimms:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISDWz_bCXsQ

If you like this listen to some of his other stuff, you won't be disappointed.

EoL

Here is a really interesting article that more or less supports what Sinister Smile has been saying (in regards to Trump running a brilliant campaign.  I am not sure this author means this in the same way Sinister Smile does, but regardless, I think he makes some great points.  The author also does an excellent job pointing out the hypocritical outrage that is so common in our post-modern culture.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/23/donald-trump-first-president-turn-postmodernism/

Trump may or may not be a stick in spoke of the wheels of the Hegelian dialectic/dialectical materialism (if you don't understand the Hegelian dialectic you don't understand how badly you are being played), but it wouldn't take much to turn the next four years into the anti-thesis of the new thesis that arose under Obama, giving us a nightmare synthesis we will all regret.  It will be an interesting, and potentially terrifying, four years - depending on how things play out.

EoL